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Re: Resetpage to shrink the Logs. (sneaky method)

Dinesh Thakur — 2012-05-25T04:04:06

Hi Rich, 

Looks like it might work. I am guessing you are reloading the message back to queue after step two and after the last step just in case if any . 

Regards, 
Dinesh

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Resetpage to shrink the Logs. (sneaky method)

Jackson, Richard R. — 2012-05-24T16:38:27

Since I'm basically cold starting the Qmgr... the BSDS will be empty.

If every PS were empty I'd could just wack the whole Qmgr and start fresh and apply a Makedef,  but I'd like to
keep some of the small pagesets,  PS0 and the Sync queue and all my buffer allocations.


Rich



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Subject: Re: Resetpage to shrink the Logs. (sneaky method)

Won't the RBA pointers in the BSDS get "messed up"?

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Subject: Resetpage to shrink the Logs. (sneaky method)

I'm thinking this may be a sneaky move to save time on a Resetpage.

I have a ZOS Qmgr with 35 pageset allocated to a total of 1,227,500 tracks.
The Queues are normally empty by Friday night. I'll leave PS 0 alone.

I'm thinking of :

- Replacing the BIG pagesets with little ones. (Format new)
- Start the Qmgr
- Stop the Qmgr
- Format new logs/BSDS
- Resetpage on the new little pagesets.
- come up
- come down
- Format new on new BIG pagesets. ( this is done during the week if I can get the space)
- Rename new PS to current names
- come up. 

Anything wrong with that?

Rich
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Subject: Re: Is it just me? Seems to be ok now

I have tried this morning, and it seems to be all working correctly again!
If anyone has issues then please post again, and I will try to chase again
:-)


Thanks
Paul

Paul Dennis
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...or is the WMQ v7.1 Infocenter search function broken for anyone else? I cleared cache and cookies and am getting the same behavior on multiple browsers on multiple PCs.  Support can't reproduce the problem.  Symptom is that after searching it says it's indexing, gets to 99% and then refreshes the page every 2 seconds  in a loop.

Re: Resetpage to shrink the Logs. (sneaky method)

Richard Tsujimoto — 2012-05-24T15:23:30

Won't the RBA pointers in the BSDS get "messed up"?

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Subject: Resetpage to shrink the Logs. (sneaky method)

I'm thinking this may be a sneaky move to save time on a Resetpage.

I have a ZOS Qmgr with 35 pageset allocated to a total of 1,227,500 tracks.
The Queues are normally empty by Friday night. I'll leave PS 0 alone.

I'm thinking of :

- Replacing the BIG pagesets with little ones. (Format new)
- Start the Qmgr
- Stop the Qmgr
- Format new logs/BSDS
- Resetpage on the new little pagesets.
- come up
- come down
- Format new on new BIG pagesets. ( this is done during the week if I can
get the space)
- Rename new PS to current names
- come up. 

Anything wrong with that?

Rich
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Subject: Re: Is it just me? Seems to be ok now

I have tried this morning, and it seems to be all working correctly again!
If anyone has issues then please post again, and I will try to chase again
:-)


Thanks
Paul

Paul Dennis
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...or is the WMQ v7.1 Infocenter search function broken for anyone else? I
cleared cache and cookies and am getting the same behavior on multiple
browsers on multiple PCs.  Support can't reproduce the problem.  Symptom is
that after searching it says it's indexing, gets to 99% and then refreshes
the page every 2 seconds  in a loop.

Resetpage to shrink the Logs. (sneaky method)

Jackson, Richard R. — 2012-05-24T13:31:45

I'm thinking this may be a sneaky move to save time on a Resetpage.

I have a ZOS Qmgr with 35 pageset allocated to a total of 1,227,500 tracks.
The Queues are normally empty by Friday night. I'll leave PS 0 alone.

I'm thinking of :

- Replacing the BIG pagesets with little ones. (Format new)
- Start the Qmgr
- Stop the Qmgr
- Format new logs/BSDS
- Resetpage on the new little pagesets.
- come up
- come down
- Format new on new BIG pagesets. ( this is done during the week if I can get the space)
- Rename new PS to current names
- come up. 

Anything wrong with that?

Rich
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Subject: Re: Is it just me? Seems to be ok now

I have tried this morning, and it seems to be all working correctly again!
If anyone has issues then please post again, and I will try to chase again :-)


Thanks
Paul

Paul Dennis
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...or is the WMQ v7.1 Infocenter search function broken for anyone else? I cleared cache and cookies and am getting the same behavior on multiple browsers on multiple PCs.  Support can't reproduce the problem.  Symptom is that after searching it says it's indexing, gets to 99% and then refreshes the page every 2 seconds  in a loop.

Re: Is it just me? Seems to be ok now

Paul S Dennis — 2012-05-24T08:28:25

I have tried this morning, and it seems to be all working correctly again!
If anyone has issues then please post again, and I will try to chase
again :-)


Thanks
Paul

Paul Dennis
WebSphere MQ for z/OS Development



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...or is the WMQ v7.1 Infocenter search function broken for anyone else? I
cleared cache and cookies and am getting the same behavior on multiple
browsers on multiple PCs.  Support can't reproduce the problem.  Symptom
is that after searching it says it's indexing, gets to 99% and then
refreshes the page every 2 seconds  in a loop.

Re: v7.5 Infocenter (was: Is it just me?)

T-Rob — 2012-05-23T21:18:35

If you use a language that reads left-to-right then CLUSTERNAME.QMGRNAME 
reflects the from-to relationship and insures no overlapping channels.  It 
does impose a limit that cluster and QMgr names must be <= 9 chars but 
getting rid of the superfluous TO. at least means the limitation is not <= 
8 characters. 

I also want to make sure our QMgr or cluster names do NOT contain dot 
characters as we make these changes.  An underscore is okay.  Reason is 
that if you had a channel APPLE.X.ORANGE it is ambiguous whether it's the 
APPLE.X cluster and the ORANGE QMgr or the APPLE cluster and the X.ORANGE 
QMgr.  A channel name APPLE_X.ORANGE is unambiguous with this rule in 
place. 

Why is the dot significant and not the underscore?  Good question.  This 
is consistent with other names in WMQ where dots are significant, for 
example queue names and wild-card setmqaut profiles.

Re: v7.5 Infocenter (was: Is it just me?)

Potkay, Peter M (CTO and Service Mgmt — 2012-05-23T19:04:17

.." For example, cluster channel names like TO.MYQMGR have got to go!"

In favor of what? TO.MYQMGR.MYCLUSTERNAME is what I've been using without issue with overlapping clusters.

Peter Potkay 


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Subject: v7.5 Infocenter (was: Is it just me?)

I'm happy to report it's working GREAT!  Of course it's internal only right now but rest assured there's a lot of effort in progress to get it ready for release.  I'm participating in a workgroup addressing security issues for the v7.5 Infocenter and you are likely to see these start showing up in the v7.1 and v7.0 Infocenters as well.  We have limited resources and the primary goal is to adapt the v7.1 Infocenter for v7.5 but within that scope we are adding considerable cross-linking of related concepts and topics, correcting known factual errors, expanding the glossary and working on consistency of terminology.

Although it is not security-related, I'm also pushing to update some of the best practices as reflected in the manuals.  For example, cluster channel names like TO.MYQMGR have got to go!  After 15 years or however long its been, I'll be happy to see the last of those PMR-inducing 
atrocities, if in fact I'm successful.   That remains to be seen.

v7.5 Infocenter (was: Is it just me?)

T-Rob — 2012-05-23T18:48:07

I'm happy to report it's working GREAT!  Of course it's internal only 
right now but rest assured there's a lot of effort in progress to get it 
ready for release.  I'm participating in a workgroup addressing security 
issues for the v7.5 Infocenter and you are likely to see these start 
showing up in the v7.1 and v7.0 Infocenters as well.  We have limited 
resources and the primary goal is to adapt the v7.1 Infocenter for v7.5 
but within that scope we are adding considerable cross-linking of related 
concepts and topics, correcting known factual errors, expanding the 
glossary and working on consistency of terminology.

Although it is not security-related, I'm also pushing to update some of 
the best practices as reflected in the manuals.  For example, cluster 
channel names like TO.MYQMGR have got to go!  After 15 years or however 
long its been, I'll be happy to see the last of those PMR-inducing 
atrocities, if in fact I'm successful.   That remains to be seen.

Re: Is it just me?

Roger Lacroix — 2012-05-23T18:39:05

Hello T.Rob,

 > Do you know that Adobe recently proposed (seriously) to only 
include security updates as part of their paid support for things 
like Photoshop,
DreamWeaver and Creative Suite?

Yup.  Its called corporate greed (or just plain stupidity).

I didn't mean to imply that people had to use Adode's Reader, it was 
just an example.  People can use any PDF Reader they wish to use and 
there are lots of them out there. :)

Regards,
Roger Lacroix
Capitalware Inc.

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Re: Is it just me?

Jackson, Richard R. — 2012-05-23T18:32:43

I'm wondering  if the PDF vote is really just a vote against Infocenter.  

I just want a lightweight soft copy of each book. 

Rich




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I think we have found the topic for this list that best qualifies as troll bait. 

There are good and bad things about a public RFE mechanism.  One detrimental aspect is that user-generated content is subject to power-law distribution.  An early front-runner has a tendency to float to the top for no other reason than that having the most votes attracts more votes. 
I've been monitoring but not voting on RFEs because I want it to reflect customer requirements rather than IBMer opinions and because I don't want to contribute to power-law skewing. 

As it happens, I would love to have the Infocenter available as an e-book but as a security specialist, I shudder to think of using PDF format.  Do you know that Adobe recently proposed (seriously) to only include security updates as part of their paid support for things like Photoshop, DreamWeaver and Creative Suite?  They quickly reversed themselves and provided free patches but given their track record, the current unresolved issues and bad security policies in general, I'd MUCH rather see the Infocenter in ANY other e-book format.  But that's just me and I realize I am by far in the minority here.

Re: Is it just me?

T-Rob — 2012-05-23T18:18:02

Thanks.  Usually it *is* me (for several reasons I won't go into here) so 
I've been trying for a couple of days by clearing cache and cookies, etc. 
When I convinced myself it was not me and reported it, my friendly tech 
writer was unable to duplicate the problem so naturally I had more doubts. 
 Good news, it seems to be working now though.

Re: Is it just me?

T-Rob — 2012-05-23T18:18:02

I think we have found the topic for this list that best qualifies as troll 
bait. 

There are good and bad things about a public RFE mechanism.  One 
detrimental aspect is that user-generated content is subject to power-law 
distribution.  An early front-runner has a tendency to float to the top 
for no other reason than that having the most votes attracts more votes. 
I've been monitoring but not voting on RFEs because I want it to reflect 
customer requirements rather than IBMer opinions and because I don't want 
to contribute to power-law skewing. 

As it happens, I would love to have the Infocenter available as an e-book 
but as a security specialist, I shudder to think of using PDF format.  Do 
you know that Adobe recently proposed (seriously) to only include security 
updates as part of their paid support for things like Photoshop, 
DreamWeaver and Creative Suite?  They quickly reversed themselves and 
provided free patches but given their track record, the current unresolved 
issues and bad security policies in general, I'd MUCH rather see the 
Infocenter in ANY other e-book format.  But that's just me and I realize I 
am by far in the minority here.

Re: Is it just me?

Hatcher Jeter — 2012-05-23T17:30:40

Hi Roger

I have to agree the Adobe works very well.  Plus they are portable and
printable.  I have voted and I have encourage ALL my customers to VOTE!
If I could vote multiple time I would

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Ascendant Technology, LLC
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Hello T.Rob,


Well, please vote for my RFE to have IBM create WMQ manuals in PDF format.
The search feature in Adobe's Reader works very well. :)
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=21041

Regards,
Roger Lacroix
Capitalware Inc.

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      ...or is the WMQ v7.1 Infocenter search function broken for anyone
      else? I
      cleared cache and cookies and am getting the same behavior on
      multiple
      browsers on multiple PCs.  Support can't reproduce the problem.
      Symptom
      is that after searching it says it's indexing, gets to 99% and then
      refreshes the page every 2 seconds  in a loop.
      -- T.Rob

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Re: Is it just me?

Roger Lacroix — 2012-05-23T17:10:15

Hello T.Rob,

 > ...or is the WMQ v7.1 Infocenter search function broken for anyone else?

Well, please vote for my RFE to have IBM create WMQ manuals in PDF 
format.  The search feature in Adobe's Reader works very well. :)
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=21041

Regards,
Roger Lacroix
Capitalware Inc.

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Re: Is it just me?

Paul S Dennis — 2012-05-23T14:36:51

As MQ 7.5 has not GA'ed yet, I wouldn't expect there to be an Infocenter
available for it yet :-)

Thanks
Paul


Paul Dennis
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... and how about MQ 7.5 Infocenter ??? ;-)

Le 23/05/2012 15:16, T-Rob a écrit :
      ...or is the WMQ v7.1 Infocenter search function broken for anyone
      else? I
      cleared cache and cookies and am getting the same behavior on
      multiple
      browsers on multiple PCs.  Support can't reproduce the problem.
      Symptom
      is that after searching it says it's indexing, gets to 99% and then
      refreshes the page every 2 seconds  in a loop.
      -- T.Rob

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Re: Is it just me?

LM Demey (MQ — 2012-05-23T13:50:40

... and how about MQ 7.5 Infocenter ???  ;-)

Le 23/05/2012 15:16, T-Rob a écrit :

Re: Is it just me?

Norbert Pfister — 2012-05-23T13:30:01

After more than a minute i got results...

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Re: Is it just me?

Norbert Pfister — 2012-05-23T13:28:46

Same behaviour for me.

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Re: Is it just me?

Paul S Dennis — 2012-05-23T13:26:38

Hi T-Rob,

Not just you!! The appropriate people know about the issue, and are working
on it! Hopefully normal service will be restored soon :)

Thanks
Paul


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...or is the WMQ v7.1 Infocenter search function broken for anyone else? I
cleared cache and cookies and am getting the same behavior on multiple
browsers on multiple PCs.  Support can't reproduce the problem.  Symptom
is that after searching it says it's indexing, gets to 99% and then
refreshes the page every 2 seconds  in a loop.

Is it just me?

T-Rob — 2012-05-23T13:16:45

...or is the WMQ v7.1 Infocenter search function broken for anyone else? I 
cleared cache and cookies and am getting the same behavior on multiple 
browsers on multiple PCs.  Support can't reproduce the problem.  Symptom 
is that after searching it says it's indexing, gets to 99% and then 
refreshes the page every 2 seconds  in a loop.

MA01 Update

Paul Clarke — 2012-05-21T12:24:03

Hi,

For anyone who might be interested this is just to let you know that I 
have updated the version of MA01 on the supportpac website. 

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg24000647

 This has added one or two new options for things like client reconnect 
etc.

Points to know about it though 

I have not updated the zLinux or z/OS version, there did not seem enough 
of a change to justify me trying to find available machines.
At long last I have built a version on iSeries since quite a few of you 
have asked for it.

Cheers,
P.

Paul G Clarke
WebSphere Messaging Clients
Hursley Park


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