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Re: 27b/6

James — 2011-08-10T21:52:46

A new one. Ouch: http://27bslash6.com/chris.html

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:11 AM, James <torpesco-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Early Hitchcock film found in NZ

Andrew Irwin — 2011-08-03T05:39:44

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/5383230/Early-Hitchcock-film-found
-in-NZ

A rare early film from Alfred Hitchcock that was unearthed in New Zealand
has been labelled "priceless" by historians of the suspense master.

The National Film Preservation Foundation and the New Zealand Film Archive
found part of Alfred Hitchcock's 1923 film
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Shadow_%28film%29> The White Shadow
following an international search.

It is considered to be the earliest feature film for which the celebrated
director is credited.

Hitchcock, who was just 24 at the time, was the writer, assistant director,
editor and production designer on the melodrama.

The lost film starred Betty Compson as twin sisters - one good, and the
other "without a soul".

The New Zealand Film Archive announced today that the film turned up among a
cache of unidentified American nitrate prints held in the archive for the
last 23 years.

However, only the first three reels of the six-reel feature have been found
and no other copy is known to exist.

New Zealand projectionist and collector Jack Murtagh is credited for
salvaging the film, as well as other silent-era movies. After he died in
1989, the nitrate prints were sent to the Film Archive by his grandson, Tony
Osborne.

"From boyhood, my grandfather was an avid collector - be it films, stamps,
coins or whatever. He was known, internationally, as having one of the
largest collection of cigarette cards and people would travel from all over
the world to view his collection. Some would view him as rather eccentric.

"He would be quietly amused by all the attention now generated by these
important film discoveries," said Osborne in a statement.

For fans of the master of suspense, it is a once in a lifetime discovery.

"This is one of the most significant developments in memory for scholars,
critics, and admirers of Hitchcock's extraordinary body of work," said David
Sterritt, Chairman of the National Society of Film Critics and author of The
Films of Alfred Hitchcock.

"Hitchcock's own directorial debut came only two years later. These first
three reels of The White Shadow - more than half the film - offer a
priceless opportunity to study his visual and narrative ideas when they were
first taking shape."

Hitchcock went on to direct classics like The 39 Steps, Dial M For Murder,
Rear Window and To Catch a Thief.

He died in 1980 aged 80.

 

 

Andrew Irwin

[John Scalzi] The Belief Schism

Johne Cook — 2011-08-01T16:06:10

SF author John Scalzi tackles belief and believers (two related but distinct
things). I always find it fascinating to read the specific nuance that
thinkers have for their thoughts.

http://whatever.scalzi.com/2011/08/01/the-belief-schism/
The Belief Schism
Johne Cook
| http://raygunrevival.com | http://authorculture.blogspot.com |*
*

RIP John Stott

Andrew Irwin — 2011-07-27T22:06:53

http://www.allsouls.org/Publisher/Article.aspx?ID=273279


John Stott died in his retirement home at St. Barnabas College at
3.15pm on Wednesday 27th July. He was surrounded by Frances Whitehead,
and a number of good friends. They were reading the Scriptures and
listening to Handel's Messiah when he peacefully went to be with his
Lord and Saviour.


Various tributes on the page follow...

----------------------

I've been reading a lot of his books recently, and I'm going through
The Cross of Christ chapter by chapter with a friend. A very wise and
well thought out man, finally seeing his Lord, Saviour Father and
friend face to face.

-----------------------
Andrew Irwin

Re: Pro bono laptop repair, Monsieur Hire, and jam

Johne Cook — 2011-07-26T20:33:09

I'd love to have one from The IT Crowd: "Have you turned it off and on
again?"

Johne Cook
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*


On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Andrew Irwin <a.s.irwin-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Re: Pro bono laptop repair, Monsieur Hire, and jam

Andrew Irwin — 2011-07-26T20:28:02

I've seen that shirt and would love to get it for work (a corporate Help
desk) and also the shirt "Just STFU and reboot already" or "I'm here because
you broke something"

Andrew


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Behalf Of Karl Swenson
Sent: Wednesday, 27 July 2011 4:19 a.m.
To: 'DADL (off topic)'
Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] Pro bono laptop repair, Monsieur Hire, and jam

I have a t shirt that says:

"no I will not fix your computer...."

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Behalf Of Bruce Geerdes
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:27 AM
To: DADL (off topic)
Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] Pro bono laptop repair, Monsieur Hire, and jam

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Andrew Irwin <a.s.irwin-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Which is why I don't do computer repair. ;)

As if I could do anything useful on a Windows box.

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Re: Pro bono laptop repair, Monsieur Hire, and jam

Karl Swenson — 2011-07-26T16:19:15

I have a t shirt that says:

"no I will not fix your computer...."

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Behalf Of Bruce Geerdes
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:27 AM
To: DADL (off topic)
Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] Pro bono laptop repair, Monsieur Hire, and jam

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Andrew Irwin <a.s.irwin-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Which is why I don't do computer repair. ;)

As if I could do anything useful on a Windows box.

Re: Pro bono laptop repair, Monsieur Hire, and jam

Bruce Geerdes — 2011-07-26T15:34:38

Yes, I administer the family computers as well. Mac only. :)

Re: Pro bono laptop repair, Monsieur Hire, and jam

Johne Cook — 2011-07-26T15:30:56

I keep it to a minimum, but, hey, it's family. Watching family thrash around
is excruciating, especially since the fix is merely time consuming and not
actually hard. And as I've noted, it's not like I wasn't doing something on
the side that was both relaxing and engaging.

Johne Cook
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On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Bruce Geerdes <bruce-zvAJD2gAwjOcqzYg7KEe8g< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Re: Pro bono laptop repair, Monsieur Hire, and jam

Bruce Geerdes — 2011-07-26T15:27:24

Which is why I don't do computer repair. ;)

As if I could do anything useful on a Windows box.

Re: Pro bono laptop repair, Monsieur Hire, and jam

Johne Cook — 2011-07-25T21:42:48

lol...

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On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Mike Findlay <mdfindlay-rphTv4pjVZMJGwgDXS7ZQA< at >public.gmane.org>wrote:

Re: Pro bono laptop repair, Monsieur Hire, and jam

Mike Findlay — 2011-07-25T21:42:19

Justice wouldn't have made the joke in the first place.  

Mike F.  

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To: DADL (off topic) <dadl-ot-MhnCnTyFDG6cqzYg7KEe8g< at >public.gmane.org>
Sent: Mon, July 25, 2011 4:38:02 PM
Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] Pro bono laptop repair, Monsieur Hire, and jam

Oh, groan. I get it. Bono, not bono. (Text doesn't do that joke justice.)

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On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Mike Findlay <mdfindlay-rphTv4pjVZMJGwgDXS7ZQA< at >public.gmane.org>wrote:

Re: Pro bono laptop repair, Monsieur Hire, and jam

Johne Cook — 2011-07-25T21:38:02

Oh, groan. I get it. Bono, not bono. (Text doesn't do that joke justice.)

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On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Mike Findlay <mdfindlay-rphTv4pjVZMJGwgDXS7ZQA< at >public.gmane.org>wrote:

Re: Pro bono laptop repair, Monsieur Hire, and jam

Andrew Irwin — 2011-07-25T21:30:46

I arranged to meet Cindy at an Arby's restaurant to drop off the laptop.
When she pulled up, she asked how much I wanted. I demurred, as I always do,
invoking the 'family discount.' She smiled produced a small, heavy paper bag
containing two jars of home-made jam. The 'payment' didn't match the effort
or my time, but I was strangely touched. (As it happens, it's really great
jam, as only real home-made stuff can be. The love poured in helps in some
undefinable way.)

I went through the drive-through and splurged on some dinner for us and went
home to sit with Linda and catch up with Big Brother 13, a shared guilty
pleasure. I'm sure I'll hear from Cindy again about fixing Alicia's laptop,
likely in 2012. Who knows what new obscure treasure I'll dig up then.


I have a policy of not charging people from church for computer repair. Up
to a point...


Andrew Irwin

Re: Pro bono laptop repair, Monsieur Hire, and jam

Karl Swenson — 2011-07-25T21:30:09

I thought when I read the title that Bono opened a professional laptop
repair.

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Behalf Of Johne Cook
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 2:25 PM
To: DADL (off topic)
Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] Pro bono laptop repair, Monsieur Hire, and jam

Like, U2's The Edge?

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On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Mike Findlay
<mdfindlay-rphTv4pjVZMJGwgDXS7ZQA< at >public.gmane.org>wrote:

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Re: Pro bono laptop repair, Monsieur Hire, and jam

Johne Cook — 2011-07-25T21:25:27

Like, U2's The Edge?

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On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Mike Findlay <mdfindlay-rphTv4pjVZMJGwgDXS7ZQA< at >public.gmane.org>wrote:

Re: Pro bono laptop repair, Monsieur Hire, and jam

Mike Findlay — 2011-07-25T21:22:51

Do you do the same work for folks who like the Edge?  ; - )

Mike F.  

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Sent: Mon, July 25, 2011 2:27:33 PM
Subject: [DADL-OT] Pro bono laptop repair, Monsieur Hire, and jam

Some people mark the changing of time by the seasons, others, by the
beginning and ending of sports calenders. I mark the passage of time by how
often I am 'volunteered' to fix Alicia's laptop.

Alicia is sort of related. She is the younger sister of Mike Badtke, the
husband of my daughter, Ashlei. Alicia recently graduated from High School,
which means she still hangs onto the self delusion that she knows
everything. The fact that her mother, Cindy, approaches me on a semi-annual
basis to fix the laptop simply side-steps the issue, I think. Alicia doesn't
have to confess her ignorance or her (fairly common) internet indiscretions,
and I don't have to rub her nose in it. Cindy loves her daughter, and I
don't mind playing the geeky hero on occasion.

I was approached on Saturday to help Alicia get her new iPod Touch to work
with the laptop on Saturday. The presenting problem was simple: the iPod
could not be connected to iTunes, because iTunes wasn't connecting to the
iTunes store. I noticed that she had three different antivirus apps, all
expired. As I expected, none of them connected to the internet to receive
updates. While digging into the issue, I noticed that the weather app in the
sidebar also wasn't updating because it apparently couldn't connect to the
internet, either. However, her browsers connected to the internet just fine.
And then I noticed the Frostwire icon on the desktop. I looked at the amount
of battery she had left and closed the lid.

I said there were more things going on than I would have laptop battery
power available to fix that day, and asked for the family to take the laptop
back home and send it to church the following day with my daughter, Ashlei
(who lives near them and attends my church). I asked for them to send along
the new iPod and a power cord for the laptop.

The problem was simple - the laptop was infected by virii likely acquired
during the downloading of songs on Frostwire. (The Frostwire service itself
is just another P2P app, however, songs people download are frequently
infected and young downloaders don't always know how to protect themselves.)
I settled down for an afternoon of clearing out non-functioning programs,
disinfecting the laptop, and then installing new programs to keep her laptop
secure.

I spent much of the afternoon waiting for various lengthy processes to run;
I installed and loaded and ran and updated and immunized Spybot Search &
Destroy. I ran Malware Bytes. I unloaded all the non-functioning and
out-of-date antivirus apps and got one current one loaded. There were any
number of complete hard drive scans, both quick and full. There was a lot of
time to kill while her laptop was performing various and sundry tasks, and I
spent that time watching stuff. I got caught up with Suits (USA Network). I
went looking for a good noir mystery thriller to keep my mind engaged.

And that's how I found Monsieur Hire, the obscure French-subtitled film. It
cropped up in one of my Netflix searches, and was described as just weird
enough to sample. I have a thing for good noir, and sometimes even less-good
noir. I fired it up and watched the first five minutes, then five more, then
five more. What saved it was how it suggested suggestive scenes (if that
makes sense) without ever being explicit. This is not an overt film. I was
just curious to give it some time to develop.

I'm glad I did. Roger Ebert gave it four stars. I wish I'd thought to
research it first, because I could have perhaps committed fully to it
earlier, but as it was, it was on an every five minute bubble, forever at
risk being turned off in favor of something else (my back-up plan was to
finally watch Nic Cage in The Sorcerer's Apprentice, which I still haven't
gotten around to seeing). There are times for mindless flicks, and times for
something with foreign subtitles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsieur_Hire
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19900615/REVIEWS/6150303

Something socially aberrant happens, but it is so matter-of-fact that I kept
watching. The movie wasn't about a fetish, although a lesser film would have
been obsessed with one in its place. I thought I knew where the film was
going to go, and it kept subverting my expectations. The 'hero' wasn't
heroic, but was both completely sure of himself and completely vulnerable.
The girl wasn't a victim and yet willingly threw her at two completely
different men. The young man wasn't completely stupid nor predictable. The
inspector was a good man (or was he?) who had an interesting way of
conducting a murder investigation.

About halfway through, I realized with a start that I was hooked. Because of
the subject matter, I never would have sought out such a film, and yet, and
yet, and yet.

After watching my fair share of mindless CGI-laden summer blockbusters,
perhaps I was ready for such a different kind of film. I was most impressed
by what the film left out. It was an elegant little exercise, and I have to
say that after getting to the end, it really left me impressed, and (in a
way) entertained. It really was about what is, and isn't, love. With
subtitles.

Back to the laptop - strangely, McAfee turned out to be very effective
finding and removing viruses, but was too devoted to locking her system down
so tight that it wouldn't connect to the internet, the original problem I
was there to fix. I finally wiped McAfee back off her system and replaced it
with the free AVG, and all was good with the world. The afternoon turned
into twilight and I finally got the laptop back to the place where I was
able to connect iTunes to the internet to get her iPod Touch to work. By the
time I was done with everything else, that was almost an afterthought. It
was by far the easiest thing I did all day.

I arranged to meet Cindy at an Arby's restaurant to drop off the laptop.
When she pulled up, she asked how much I wanted. I demurred, as I always do,
invoking the 'family discount.' She smiled produced a small, heavy paper bag
containing two jars of home-made jam. The 'payment' didn't match the effort
or my time, but I was strangely touched. (As it happens, it's really great
jam, as only real home-made stuff can be. The love poured in helps in some
undefinable way.)

I went through the drive-through and splurged on some dinner for us and went
home to sit with Linda and catch up with Big Brother 13, a shared guilty
pleasure. I'm sure I'll hear from Cindy again about fixing Alicia's laptop,
likely in 2012. Who knows what new obscure treasure I'll dig up then.

Honestly, I'm kind of looking forward to it.

Johne Cook
| http://raygunrevival.com | http://authorculture.blogspot.com |

Pro bono laptop repair, Monsieur Hire, and jam

Johne Cook — 2011-07-25T19:27:33

Some people mark the changing of time by the seasons, others, by the
beginning and ending of sports calenders. I mark the passage of time by how
often I am 'volunteered' to fix Alicia's laptop.

Alicia is sort of related. She is the younger sister of Mike Badtke, the
husband of my daughter, Ashlei. Alicia recently graduated from High School,
which means she still hangs onto the self delusion that she knows
everything. The fact that her mother, Cindy, approaches me on a semi-annual
basis to fix the laptop simply side-steps the issue, I think. Alicia doesn't
have to confess her ignorance or her (fairly common) internet indiscretions,
and I don't have to rub her nose in it. Cindy loves her daughter, and I
don't mind playing the geeky hero on occasion.

I was approached on Saturday to help Alicia get her new iPod Touch to work
with the laptop on Saturday. The presenting problem was simple: the iPod
could not be connected to iTunes, because iTunes wasn't connecting to the
iTunes store. I noticed that she had three different antivirus apps, all
expired. As I expected, none of them connected to the internet to receive
updates. While digging into the issue, I noticed that the weather app in the
sidebar also wasn't updating because it apparently couldn't connect to the
internet, either. However, her browsers connected to the internet just fine.
And then I noticed the Frostwire icon on the desktop. I looked at the amount
of battery she had left and closed the lid.

I said there were more things going on than I would have laptop battery
power available to fix that day, and asked for the family to take the laptop
back home and send it to church the following day with my daughter, Ashlei
(who lives near them and attends my church). I asked for them to send along
the new iPod and a power cord for the laptop.

The problem was simple - the laptop was infected by virii likely acquired
during the downloading of songs on Frostwire. (The Frostwire service itself
is just another P2P app, however, songs people download are frequently
infected and young downloaders don't always know how to protect themselves.)
I settled down for an afternoon of clearing out non-functioning programs,
disinfecting the laptop, and then installing new programs to keep her laptop
secure.

I spent much of the afternoon waiting for various lengthy processes to run;
I installed and loaded and ran and updated and immunized Spybot Search &
Destroy. I ran Malware Bytes. I unloaded all the non-functioning and
out-of-date antivirus apps and got one current one loaded. There were any
number of complete hard drive scans, both quick and full. There was a lot of
time to kill while her laptop was performing various and sundry tasks, and I
spent that time watching stuff. I got caught up with Suits (USA Network). I
went looking for a good noir mystery thriller to keep my mind engaged.

And that's how I found Monsieur Hire, the obscure French-subtitled film. It
cropped up in one of my Netflix searches, and was described as just weird
enough to sample. I have a thing for good noir, and sometimes even less-good
noir. I fired it up and watched the first five minutes, then five more, then
five more. What saved it was how it suggested suggestive scenes (if that
makes sense) without ever being explicit. This is not an overt film. I was
just curious to give it some time to develop.

I'm glad I did. Roger Ebert gave it four stars. I wish I'd thought to
research it first, because I could have perhaps committed fully to it
earlier, but as it was, it was on an every five minute bubble, forever at
risk being turned off in favor of something else (my back-up plan was to
finally watch Nic Cage in The Sorcerer's Apprentice, which I still haven't
gotten around to seeing). There are times for mindless flicks, and times for
something with foreign subtitles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsieur_Hire
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19900615/REVIEWS/6150303

Something socially aberrant happens, but it is so matter-of-fact that I kept
watching. The movie wasn't about a fetish, although a lesser film would have
been obsessed with one in its place. I thought I knew where the film was
going to go, and it kept subverting my expectations. The 'hero' wasn't
heroic, but was both completely sure of himself and completely vulnerable.
The girl wasn't a victim and yet willingly threw her at two completely
different men. The young man wasn't completely stupid nor predictable. The
inspector was a good man (or was he?) who had an interesting way of
conducting a murder investigation.

About halfway through, I realized with a start that I was hooked. Because of
the subject matter, I never would have sought out such a film, and yet, and
yet, and yet.

After watching my fair share of mindless CGI-laden summer blockbusters,
perhaps I was ready for such a different kind of film. I was most impressed
by what the film left out. It was an elegant little exercise, and I have to
say that after getting to the end, it really left me impressed, and (in a
way) entertained. It really was about what is, and isn't, love. With
subtitles.

Back to the laptop - strangely, McAfee turned out to be very effective
finding and removing viruses, but was too devoted to locking her system down
so tight that it wouldn't connect to the internet, the original problem I
was there to fix. I finally wiped McAfee back off her system and replaced it
with the free AVG, and all was good with the world. The afternoon turned
into twilight and I finally got the laptop back to the place where I was
able to connect iTunes to the internet to get her iPod Touch to work. By the
time I was done with everything else, that was almost an afterthought. It
was by far the easiest thing I did all day.

I arranged to meet Cindy at an Arby's restaurant to drop off the laptop.
When she pulled up, she asked how much I wanted. I demurred, as I always do,
invoking the 'family discount.' She smiled produced a small, heavy paper bag
containing two jars of home-made jam. The 'payment' didn't match the effort
or my time, but I was strangely touched. (As it happens, it's really great
jam, as only real home-made stuff can be. The love poured in helps in some
undefinable way.)

I went through the drive-through and splurged on some dinner for us and went
home to sit with Linda and catch up with Big Brother 13, a shared guilty
pleasure. I'm sure I'll hear from Cindy again about fixing Alicia's laptop,
likely in 2012. Who knows what new obscure treasure I'll dig up then.

Honestly, I'm kind of looking forward to it.

Johne Cook
| http://raygunrevival.com | http://authorculture.blogspot.com |

Re: We can relax - Roger Ebert likes Captain America!

Peter T. Chattaway — 2011-07-21T21:27:23

I wouldn't call what (most of) these films do "meta".  Intertextuality is 
not the same thing as metatextuality.

And it's "worse" in Captain America than it was in the previous films, 
because Captain America is *almost* its own film, but then the last reel 
or so tugs everything into the modern era and The Avengers ... but there 
is still unfinished business from the main story, and so the very last 
line of the film refers to that main story even as it takes place in this 
proto-Avengers setting.  This is a far cry from Iron Man, which really 
*was* its own movie until Nick Fury showed up *after* the end credits, or 
The Incredible Hulk, which was pretty much its own movie (despite subtle 
verbal and visual allusions to Captain America) until Tony Stark showed up 
*during* the end credits; and it's different from Iron Man 2 and Thor, 
which basically existed for no other reason than to set up The Avengers. 
Captain America feels like it really could have been *its own* movie 
(notwithstanding the fact that a key plot device comes from Asgard), and 
the fact that Captain America gets yanked out of the main story and into 
the age of The Avengers in the final moments doesn't quite work, IMHO.

Incidentally, nothing I have said here is a spoiler, because (a) everyone 
knows that Captain America will be in The Avengers, (b) Ebert already 
mentioned Nick Fury in the review that started this thread, and (c) the 
very first scene in Captain America is actually set in the *present day*, 
when SHIELD discovers something lost under the snow...  (Note: what he 
finds there doesn't *quite* fit with the Captain-America-buried-in-snow 
glimpse that we saw in The Incredible Hulk, but oh well, it'll do.)

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/found-captain-america-in-the-incredible-hulk.php

Re: We can relax - Roger Ebert likes Captain America!

Peter T Chattaway — 2011-07-21T19:17:52

Not like this, no.

This email sent from my HTC smartphone

----- Reply message -----
From: "Karl Swenson" <karldswenson-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org>
Date: Thu, Jul 21, 2011 11:53 am
Subject: [DADL-OT] We can relax - Roger Ebert likes Captain America!
To: "'DADL (off topic)'" <dadl-ot-MhnCnTyFDG6cqzYg7KEe8g< at >public.gmane.org>

but it's all kind of undermined by the last few minutes, which exist only to
tie the film into The Avengers. 

***didn't ironman do that too?

Re: We can relax - Roger Ebert likes Captain America!

Johne Cook — 2011-07-21T18:58:25

...and Thor. (I kind of like the meta linkage.)

Johne Cook
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On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Karl Swenson <karldswenson-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org>wrote: