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Re: Problem with cyradm logging in

Juan Cimadevilla — 2013-02-04T18:37:11

Chris,

Check if your sasl is working for cyrus user:
testsaslauthd -u cyrus -p <your-passwd>

You should get:
0: OK "Success."

if not, you have a problem with your sasl configuration or you have
wrong auth info.

Check if you have change sasl conf file to star the service:
edit /etc/default/saslauthd

change START to yes and NAME to saslauthd:
START=yes
NAME="saslauthd"


If sasl is running, try setting a new password:
saslpasswd2 cyrus

Regards.


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Problem with cyradm logging in

Chris — 2013-02-04T13:30:18

Hello.
Not sure how busy this list is, if I’m asking in the right place but I’m a bit stuck. Grateful for any help Relatively new to Linux so excuse me if I’ve missed something obvious.

Trying to get postfix and cyrus working for IMAP on a Ubuntu based system. I’ve read tutorials. Just a test system at the moment. Intend using system accounts for authentication. What I’ve done:

Postfix installed, working for local delivery to system account Maildirs.
installed cyrus2 packages.
Used saslpasswd2 and created cyrus.
created a system account cyrus with passwd.

Added users cyrus and test as admins in imapd.conf
allow plaintext. yes
sasl_mec_list PLAIN

Have created smtpd.conf under /etc/postfix/sasl and set to use saslauthd.
check_method saslauthd
mech_list PLAIN

enabled imap and pop3 in cyrus.conf

When I go to add a imap mailbox with the cyrus admin program, cyradm. I attempt logging in as user cyrus.
cyradm –user cyrus localhost

enter password

And get.
Login failed: No mechanism available at /urs/lib/perl5/Cyrus/IMAP/admin.pm line 119
cyradm: Can not authenticate to server as cyrus.

If I then do.

tail /var/log/mail.log

says:

cyrus/imap(3430): badlogin: localhost(::1) plaintext cyrus sasl(-4): no mechaism available: checkpass failed.

This happens whether I use localhost in cyradm login, or the FQDN of the host.

So what do I do? Any help / pointers gratefully received.

Opologies for long message.

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Web-Cyradm and Sendmail

Charles Bradshaw — 2013-02-03T13:03:48

Hello list

I have just spent many, many happy days getting cyrus-imap working with
sendmail. Not the easiest installation I've ever attempted! I, finaly, have
everything working with the sql plugin using mysql.

I observe that most of my problems stems from the fact that most admins have,
understandably!, decided in favour of postfix rather than sendmail.

Since I am sticking with sendmail, I am interested to know if anybody is using
cyrus-imap and sendmail with web-cyradm for account administration successfully?

Specifically, I need web-cyradm's ability to manage virtual account passwords.

Are there any pitfalls?

Thanks in advance, Charles Bradshaw

Re: New project

Richard Pijnenburg — 2011-12-21T02:10:08

At this point Mikko Toivola and i are writing up a plan for a complete
re-write in php ( simply because that are the languages Mikko and i program
in )
The core will be a REST API with a modular back-end.
The front-end will communicate trough the REST API.

Cheers.

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Re: New project

Luc de Louw — 2011-12-20T20:36:44

I would prefer Python, because there are much more frameworks available 
as in Ruby. Python is known by much more people, it now is the de-facto 
standard for system administrators.

I.e. a quick google research shows http://python-cyrus.sourceforge.net/

As of today, the best architecture would be building a core which 
provides an API i.e. XMLRPC. The web frontend connects to that API. 
Other software can also connect to that core, this would add more 
flexibility.

With having a core with an API, the software would also be more "Cloudy".

Just some thoughts...

Thanks,

Luc

Re: New project

Andrea Tassinari — 2011-12-20T16:57:40


On 17/12/2011 22.42, Juan Cimadevilla wrote:

nice idea. But to tell you the truth I would prefer a complete rewrite 
on python or ruby.

I do not agree at all. I have just finished to get rid of berkeley db 
from my cyrus 2.2 installation in favor of skiplists (too many problems 
with bdb) I would never migrate from mysql to bdb.


I do this with standard squirrelmail installation with standard plugins.

Suspending entire domains would be very useful


My add:

  - Domain level custom fields. Sometime I need extra information to 
manage invoice and payments. Having the possibility to add custom fields 
at domain level would be great.

- Import/Export accounts via csv

/< at >/

Re: New project

Richard Pijnenburg — 2011-12-18T14:25:22

The new version will be indeed more modular then the current web-cyradm.
For example we have the idea to place a REST API between the front-end and
back-end.
Making the back-end also modular gives the system the option to support
multiple MDA's.

Cheers.

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Re: New project

Mikko Toivola — 2011-12-18T14:19:21

On 18.12.2011, at 16:00, Juan Cimadevilla wrote:

Hi. You have many good points, but I only reply to these two. Do you provide your customers any sort of webmail? I have integrated password change and vacation messages into Squirrelmail with change_sqlpass and avelsieve plugins. Avelsieve of course let's you create all sort of filters, but I've created simple screenshots do demostrate how to create vacation message. I'm in the process to make Roundcube more supported, and it seems it has sieve filters & sql password change plugins available as well. It helps if there's only one address / interface for the customers to manage their individual mail accounts.

What do you think?


Good points. I already stated, that writing instructions how to integrate Exim into this shouldn't be that hard. I don't use Exim that much, but I do think it's just a matter of setting few config parameters. MDAs, on the other hand, are a bit different on the management side, but as you said, if someone writes a dovecot backend, it shouldn't be hard to change. We'll keep this in mind, the new management system is anyway going to be more modular, so separate imap-backend will be created.

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Re: New project

Juan Cimadevilla — 2011-12-18T14:00:32

El 17/12/11 23:59, Luc de Louw escribió:
I say "like Smarty", not necessary Smarty. However, Newscoop uses Smarty 
and it is a big PHP project, so it is possible to use Smarty in PHP 
projects.

Other template systems that can be used with PHP (from phpclasses.org):
- Siviglia Framework templating engine (Jose Maria Rodriguez Millan 
<dashiad< at >hotmail.com>)
- REG_template, a simple template management system based on php-s 
regular expressions (<kami.eper< at >gmail.com>)
- Popcorn, easy and fast template engine for PHP (Sergey Romanenko 
<awilum< at >msn.com>)
- PHP Simple View (Mallory Dessaintes <mdessaintes< at >gmail.com>)

...or it can by written from scratch.

Anyway, Smarty is too complex to use in this project, i guess.

If a server receives a lot of spam the validation of accounts using 
MySQL rapidly ends with the memory. Using BDB in pam instead MySQL 
increases the tolerance to this attacks.

In some of my servers the only solution to spam attacks (thousands of 
spams per second), was limiting the number of threads, after a given 
number of requests, the only response from the server is "450 Server too 
busy", but this number of threads can be increased using BDB.

In one of my servers I have used a simple php script in cron to export 
MySQL user accounts to BDB, to validate users accounts with pam instead 
of using MySQL directly, this increases the number of threads that this 
server can manage with the same resources.



If you create a domain alias adding it in mydestination and canonical, 
i.e., domain.net forwards all email to domain.com, if you send email to 
the unexisting account "example< at >domain.com", the server rejects the 
delivery, but if you send the email to "example< at >domain.net", server 
accepts the email, and then it sends a bounce message.

This bounces are used by spammers to do backscattering attacks.

If you create the domain alias as a new separate domain, and when you 
create the account "example2" in "domain.com", the account is also 
automatically created in "domain.net" and forwarded to 
"example2< at >domain.com", any email sent to the unexisting accounts of the 
domain alias will be rejected too, avoiding the backscattering.

I have had many problems with the bounces of alias, and finally I have 
written a small php script, again using the cron (not real time), to do 
this account syncs.


I know that, but I have many customers that don't like to use horde and 
asked my about this feature. Also, I have servers without Horde.



Disabling the POP, IMAP, SMTP, etc, I guess, but it is very confusing to 
regular users. A "suspend account" link will be more useful.

For the owners of a server with many domains, a "suspend domain" will be 
also a good feature.


Yes, it is, but If you correctly design the software architecture to 
allow this (a separate web-interface and functions), someone can write 
the new functions to use Exim and Dovecot in the future.

I'm not really interested in Exim or Dovecot, so this is not important 
to me, but I know some people than can be interested.

Re: New project

Luc de Louw — 2011-12-17T22:59:12


Using smary would lead in a more or less complete rewrite. If that 
should happen, the new language would probably not PHP, but python or 
Ruby (on-rails)


Agreed


Please exmplain


Please explain


Can be done trough horde


account suspension  is already possible


Since cyrus imap and postfix are very different from exim and dovecot, 
this is completely out of scope.

Thanks,

Luc

Re: New github repo

Luc de Louw — 2011-12-17T22:54:04

Sorry,

Right URL is https://github.com/web-cyradm/web-cyradm

On 12/17/2011 11:52 PM, Luc de Louw wrote:

This is just my personal fork..

Thanks,

Luc

New github repo

Luc de Louw — 2011-12-17T22:52:52

Folks,

I just created a new github repo and imported the SVN repo:

https://github.com/ldelouw/web-cyradm

Add youself as members...

Thanks,

Luc

Re: New project

Mikko Toivola — 2011-12-17T22:07:11

On 17.12.2011, at 23:42, Juan Cimadevilla wrote:

At a glance, ispCP Omega doesn't support Cyrus, which is the problem in my case (like it is with many other CPs). After having tried several MDAs, Cyrus is the one for me for several reasons (one of them being the mailstore, each message in it's own file). But I guess you are right, most admins might want all-in-one solutions, but I prefer managing my servers without much automation. In email administration, on the other hand, it is nice to have the ability to delegate admin tasks and have nice web interface for account creations etc.

Maybe we could engineer temporary patch for web-cyradm, since it might take a while before new version. Can anyone supply more detailed errors / logs about the problems with PHP 5.3? I Use web-cyradm 0.5.5 w/ PHP 5.3 and have no troubles. I recall someone sayin that errors occur when using user< at >domain style usernames, which I don't.

And about the suggestions, they're most welcome, like Richard already stated. Exim & Dovecot support might be little out of scope, but if we have enough testers for it, I don't mind. Exim shouldn't be a problem, the trick (I think) is just to get it read the mysql-tables and either authenticat against it or use PAM. Dovecot could give some trouble, depending on how specific the cyrus mailbox administration is. We'll probably find out when we get there...

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Re: New project

Richard Pijnenburg — 2011-12-17T21:48:26

Hi Juan,

Help with translations is always welcome since i can only translate Dutch
and English :-)
You have a few very good idea's and i think we can / will implement a few
of them.


For the rest of the list; all idea's are more then welcome.
I hope we can assemble a good team of developers so this will not fall onto
1 person.

Cheers.

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Re: New project

Juan Cimadevilla — 2011-12-17T21:42:28

El 17/12/11 01:08, Luc de Louw escribió:


Web-cyradm lost of popularity is due to the use of all-in-one server 
admin software, like ispCPOmega or commercial solutions like Plesk, 
Cpanel or Ensim, but I prefer to use dedicated email servers. My 
favorite manager is web-cyradm, but it is failing with new php versions.

If the project revives, I can help with Spanish translation and maybe 
with some php coding, depending on my work load.

Some ideas to a new project could be:
- Use of a template system like Smarty (useful to customization).
- A more organized structure using php classes.
- Export users to Berkeley db format to avoid real time user validation 
using MySQL (useful in high load servers).
- Domain accounts synchronization for alias domains (to avoid 
backscattering).
- Admin access to individual users, i.e. to change passwords and 
vacation messages.
- Suspend domains and accounts.
- Support for Exim and Dovecot.

     Juan

Re: New project

Mikko Toivola — 2011-12-17T10:31:51

Hi Luc.

First of all I too would like to than Luc & Lukasz (are the any other?) for this great piece of software. I've used it several years on several places, and though maybe not perfect, it's still the best in the field in my opinion.

It would be great, if we somehow get the project going again. Some development will be needed, at least because the software it uses does get update (PHP, Cyrus etc). Hope we can find a way, since there seems to be already few volunteers wanting to proceed with the idea.

I've done 0.5.4 Finnish translations a while ago, but for somereason couldn't do the 0.5.5 version. Anyhow, in the future I'll be contributing that part too. Hope we get more folks on that board too.

 Mikko


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Re: New project

Richard Pijnenburg — 2011-12-17T06:56:51

Hi Luc,

I would like to get you on board of this as you are the current developer.
At this point we have several good idea's and major design changes in mind.
If you have time later today would like to have a chat.

I'll send you a direct mail with some details.

Cheers.

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Re: New project

Emmett Culley — 2011-12-17T03:57:32

Hi Luc,

Glad to see that you are still paying attention to your 'baby'.  I haven't seen anything to beat it in all the time I have been using it, and I have been seriously looking each time I have to rebuild my server.  (though is has gotten easier since I switched to CentOS from Fedora :-)

I remember your request for translators and regret that I did not have time to spare to help out.

This sudden interest in reviving the project is heartening.  And even though there has been no advances for quite awhile, web-cyradm is still a very useful program.

Thanks for all your work on creating web-cyradm!

Emmett

Re: New project

Luc de Louw — 2011-12-17T00:08:29

Hi Richard et al,

Yes, the development stands still since a couple of years. There are 
three main reasons for that:

- I was frustrated when I was calling for translations during the 0.5.4 
release cycle and nobody responded.

- I have less and less time to keep on working on the project since 
several years.

- I failed to establish a broader project government to make the project 
independent from my person.

Forking is good, revive a existing project is may be better. If you 
like, you can take over the domain and the project name if you like and 
if you have a proper plan how to proceed further.

Thanks,

Luc

Re: New project

Richard Pijnenburg — 2011-12-16T05:23:01

Hi emmett, any help is welcome. I will send a mail later today for some
details.
If you have any questions in the meantime you can contact me off list
trough Richard< at >ispavailability.com

Cheers.
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Re: New project

Emmett Culley — 2011-12-16T03:29:49

Hi Richard,

I am definitely interested in advancing what web-cyradm started.  I've been using it on our mail server for at least four years.  It makes managing multiple email domains very easy.  And I wish it could do more.

I am especially interested in improving installation, at least for CentOS, as the biggest pain is installing it.

I don't have a lot of extra time, but I am willing to take some of the load.

Emmett