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Re: Set language for spelling

Carlos E. R. — 2012-05-18T22:49:33

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On Friday, 2012-05-18 at 13:11 -0000, David Bonde wrote:


I do it with a script.

First I define the setting in alpine:

    Speller            = alpine_aspell


Then I have the script "/usr/local/bin/alpine_aspell":

#!/bin/bash
read -p "Aspell: Select language: (US) UK ES FR " -s -n 1
case $REPLY in
      2|[Uu]) opts=( -l en_GB.UTF-8 ) ;;
      3|[Ee]) opts=( -l es_ES.UTF-8 ) ;;
      4|[Ff]) opts=( -l fr_FR.UTF-8 ) ;;
      *)      opts=( -l en_US.UTF-8 ) ;;
esac
exec aspell ${opts[< at >]} -e -c $1

You just have to edit the script to add languages.


This was done with help from people in this mail list:


Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:53:26 +0200 (CEST)
From: Carlos E. R. <>
To: Alpine-alpha <alpine-alpha< at >u.washington.edu>
Subject: [Alpine-alpha] feature request: choose language for spell-check, dynamically.

or

Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 00:42:32 +0200 (EET)
From: Iosif Fettich <>
To: Alpine Forum List <alpine-info< at >u.washington.edu>
Subject: [Alpine-info] Managing a few different spell-checkers



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Cheers,
        Carlos E. R.
        (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar)
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Re: Translate strings

Carlos E. R. — 2012-05-18T22:35:14

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On Friday, 2012-05-18 at 20:31 +0200, Werner Scheinast wrote:

El 2012-05-18 a las 20:31 +0200, Werner Scheinast escribió:




Exactly. And I don't remember exactly why or how, I get two such strings, 
one the original english one, two my customized string - like above. I 
delete the one i do not want on every post I make. Tedious, but it works. 
^K deletes line, reposition the cursor, ^U undeletes in the new position. 
It is a fast copypaste of entire lines.


There is no language support in Alpine. Not even possible to customize 
using roles.

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        Carlos E. R.
        (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar)
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Re: Translate strings

Werner Scheinast — 2012-05-18T18:31:10

Am Today schrieb David Bonde:


His reply-leadin is not localized, but customized. In M-S-C (main menu ->
Setup -> Config) you have an item "reply-leadin" with a tedious, but in-
formative help text. Take some time and read it. It will also provide a
list of these "special" tokens. Only a few of them follow your localiza-
tion (like the "SMARTDATES" variants).
My leadin above was accomplished by
Am _SMARTDATES3_ schrieb _FROM_:
... but you see, the word "Today" is not localized (German), only an ex-
plicit date would be localized here. So, in general, the localization is
poor.

HTH
Werner

Re: Set language for spelling

Brian Durant — 2012-05-18T15:16:35

Hi David,

Someone more knowledgeable on the list is welcome to correct me, but I 
believe multilingual spell checking can only be implemented if you are 
using an external editor with Alpine. There is a posting here on using 
Vim for multilingual spell checking:

http://www.salixos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=3064&hilit=+vim

Re: Translate strings

David Bonde — 2012-05-18T13:14:23


I am not sure I understand you here. Are there similar tokens for Swedish? 
Where can I find a list of them?


But that is in English? I don't understand what you have accomplished 
here.

Do you think you clarify?


Thanks
David

Set language for spelling

David Bonde — 2012-05-18T13:11:32

I use hunspell for spellchecking in Alpine. The problem is that I write e-mails in several different languages and as far as I can tell, I can't change the language for the spell checking unless I chnage how hunspell is invoked in Alipne's configuration screen.

Can I somehow make Alpine (or hunspell) ask which language I want to spellcheck in everytime spellchecking is invoked rather than setting it in the main configuration?

Re: Translate strings

Carlos E. R. — 2012-05-15T13:51:57

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On Tuesday, 2012-05-15 at 13:21 -0000, David Bonde wrote:


It is a sorely missing feature.

I define "reply-leadin" like this:

Reply Leadin  = El _DATEISO_ a las _TIME24_ _TIMEZONE_, _FROM_ escribió:


For changes in the signature, I use a different role. The result is that 
when I answered your post, I got this preamble:


+++··············
On Tuesday, 2012-05-15 at 13:21 -0000, David Bonde wrote:


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Cheers,
        Carlos E. R.
        (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar)
El 2012-05-15 a las 13:21 -0000, David Bonde escribió:

... quoted message body here

··············++-


Then I have to delete the language I do not want, and move the signature 
block to the end.

The proper solution would be adjusting "reply-leadin" inside a role, or 
having a set of leadins corresponding to different languages - but alpine 
does not have language support, AFAIK.

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Cheers,
        Carlos E. R.
        (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar)
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Translate strings

David Bonde — 2012-05-15T13:21:05

I use Alpine in a Swedish context ($LANG=sv_SE.utf8). In the message index view the values in the date column are displayed, as expected, in Swedish. However, when I reply to a mail the attribution line (On Tue May 15 XX wrote:) uses strings in English. How do I make Alpine use localized strings here?

Re: URL Viewer

Eduardo Chappa — 2012-05-06T21:07:48


Werner,

   This is a bug in Alpine and Re-Alpine. I have a fix for that bug in my 
web page at

http://patches.freeiz.com/alpine/info/envvar.html

   I hope this helps.

Re: [Re-alpine-devel] re-Alpine for Nokia N9 mobilephone.

Peter G. — 2012-05-06T15:15:46

Hi,

Crossposting to both lists sorry, if you get that twice.

I was bored today so I tried to get alpine 2.00 from Debian to compile.

This is the result:

http://public.nephros.org/~nephros/alpine_2.00+dfsg-6_armel.deb
http://public.nephros.org/~nephros/alpine-pico_2.00+dfsg-6_armel.deb

It installs and launches on the N9, but I have not tested further after
seeing that it starts.

USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!

In case someone is interested, the Debian control files I used are here:
http://public.nephros.org/~nephros/alpine-2.00-debian.tar.bz2

The main changes are removing kerberos and ldap support to reduce
dependencies and setting the c-client build target lnx.

The source packages were these:
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/alpine/alpine_2.00+dfsg.orig.tar.gz
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/alpine/alpine_2.00+dfsg-6.diff.gz

The build runs quite nicely, except at the linking phase of the final
binaries it fails with

 ../c-client/c-client.a(osdep.o): In function `checkpw':
 osdep.c:(.text+0x1cb4): undefined reference to `crypt'
 osdep.c:(.text+0x1d50): undefined reference to `crypt'
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 make[5]: *** [alpine] Error 1
 make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/nephros/alpine/alpine-2.00/alpine'

This is because the linker flags are in the wrong order; -lcrypt must be
specified *after* -lssl which I grasped from this thread:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10368671/cannot-find-libcrypto-library-error

I didn't feel like digging through the build system to correct this so I simply 
did the
compile manually correcting the flag order and then running
dpkg-buildpackage -h -nc again.

Hope you find this useful.

Greets,
   Peter G.

Re: Alpine or re-Alpine for Nokia N9 mobile phone.

Peter G. — 2012-05-06T14:36:03

Hodie pr. Non. Mai. MMXII AUC quidam/quædam/quoddam 'Brian Durant' inquit:

Getting a bit off-topic here but yes, Harmattan is quite debianish and
uses apt and .deb files.

The init system is different (I believe it uses an upstart variant) but
normal /etc/init.d scripts seem to work okay (check the developer docs
on how that works).

Also, Nokia adds the aegis security system which restricts what you can
do, but it doesn't really get in your way if you are a regular user.

As for tips for a new user, the most important thing when searching the
web is to always check what the page talks about exactly.

There is Maemo, Harmattan, Meego, Moblin and Tizen which are all related but
different. Plus there are the different devices, N800, N900, N950, N9.

Also, current Harmattan 1.2 is quite different from older versions.

Most info you find does NOT apply to all systems so be careful what you
try.

As you ask for URLs, here are a couple:
http://talk.maemo.org
http://apps.formeego.org/applications/
https://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/ (I have a bug there, #637 that I would
be interested in getting feedback for.)

Here's some fun command line hacking:
http://shootspeak.com/2011/10/10/nokia-n9-get-extra-functions-by-editing-the-mce-ini-file/
http://forum.dailymobile.se/index.php?topic=57010.0 (there's now a
regular app for that too)

If you're very crazy, there's a way to dual-boot the Google OS on the N9
which might be fun:
http://forum.nitdroid.com/index.php?topic=94.0

Have fun,
Peter G.

Re: Alpine or re-Alpine for Nokia N9 mobile phone.

Brian Durant — 2012-05-06T13:48:11

Thanks,

I have an old Dell Latitude laptop I can try to install Debian and the 
Harmattan SDK on. The SDK installer can be found here:
http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/platform-sdk/

Scratchbox install info can be found here:
http://scratchbox.org/documentation/user/scratchbox-1.0/html/installdoc.html#AEN132

BTW, Any favorite N9 URLs for a new N9 user? As you can guess, I am 
particularly interested in what can be done from the command line on an 
N9. Does the N9 use apt as package manager?

Re: Alpine or re-Alpine for Nokia N9 mobile phone.

Peter G. — 2012-05-06T08:45:36

Hodie III Non. Mai. MMXII AUC quidam/quædam/quoddam 'Brian Durant' inquit:


There is a SDK for Harmattan available form Nokia. It includes a 
cross-compiler, qemu-based runtime and Debian build environment for the 
platform based on squeeze.

http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Harmattan:Platform_Guide

You could try to build a package from the debian source in that 
environment.

If you're adventurous, you could try to install the prebuilt .deb from 
here: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/armel/alpine/download but I'm 
not sure it'll work OOTB.

On the other hand, as there is a ssh client the quicker solution would 
probably be screen (or tmux) with alpine on some server and ssh sesion 
from the phone.

HTH, and let us know if it works. I have an N9 as well and having alpine 
running on it would be nice indeed.

Best of luck
   Peter G.

Re: URL Viewer

Werner Scheinast — 2012-05-05T22:55:04

Dear Benjamin,

sorry that I could not reply before the weekend. For compensation, I can
present the solution which I found right now after extensive testing:

I did not include the variable $HOME in curly brackets: ${HOME}. This
seems to be necessary. Don't ask me why. This setup now works correctly:

# List of programs to open Internet URLs (e.g. http or ftp references).
url-viewers=_TEST("test -f ${HOME}/.opera/lock")_ /usr/local/bin/opera,
/usr/local/bin/w3m

A simple $HOME obviously confused the parser or the sub-shell. It was
replaced by something strange, so the test always came out false. In fact,
it seems that every shell command containing a $HOME, even something like
echo $HOME, makes the _TEST fail.
This may be considered a bug; at least, it should be pointed out in the
help text.

Benjamin, you reported about an error message from Opera. How did you see
it? Did you use exactly the URL viewer setup I posted? Do you have both
w3m and opera (or something equivalent) installed? Is the above setup now
working for you too?

Curious,
Werner

Alpine or re-Alpine for Nokia N9 mobile phone.

Brian Durant — 2012-05-05T20:57:42

I am looking for a version of Alpine or re-Alpine that I can install on 
my newly purchased Nokia N9. I have yet to receive my phone, but I have 
tried to do some research on the issue and have come up blank. Can 
anyone advise?

As far as I understand, the N9 OS is MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan. I believe it 
is a modified version of MeeGo Linux that is most closely related to 
Maemo Linux. Rather confusing and also why I am unsure where to find 
information on this issue.

Cheers

Re: URL Viewer

Werner Scheinast — 2012-05-05T20:19:44

Am Sonntag schrieb Eduardo Chappa:


Dear Eduardo,

sorry that I could not reply before the weekend - and yes, /bin/test does
exist. I provided the absolute pathnames in a desperate attempt to get it
working; they make no difference. See also my reply to Benjamin that I
will write in a few minutes.

Regards, Werner

Message size limit when doing select->text->body/all

Bojan Jovanovic — 2012-05-01T00:19:01

Hey guys,

Newbie question - spent dozen hours googling for this. I have my svn
commits filter to a specific mailbox. When I search the mailbox for text
(e.g. file being altered), I noticed that some of the larger (few+ megs)
messages are not searched for the string and ignored in my
search/select/zoom results. This is reproducable every time.

Is this a feature? Anywere to adjust this size limit to unlimited? 
(I am fine with waiting :))

Thanks!
Bojan

Re: imap - keeping things seperate

Doug Barton — 2012-04-30T20:09:26


To avoid having personal drafts stored on work's e-mail server? :)

You can set that field in your role as well. It's usually easier to set
up the defaults for the persona that you use most often, and then set up
roles with the variations.

hth,

Doug

Re: accented characters and content-type

Lucio Chiappetti — 2012-04-30T08:12:03



Thanks, it works !

Re: URL Viewer

Benjamin R. Haskell — 2012-04-29T18:42:22


Are you sure it's the _TEST expression that's failing?  Using your 
example, I get the following unintuitive error when Opera is running:

opera: cannot connect to X server . Error: Success

Same goes for this entry:
url-viewers=_TEST("/bin/true")_ /usr/local/bin/opera,
  /usr/local/bin/w3m

The error only flashes up for a split second, though, because Alpine 
immediately falls through to w3m (since opera returned an error).

Presumably, the _TEST()_ condition and/or the URL viewer itself is being 
run in a different shell environment than expected.  (So, e.g. DISPLAY 
or XAUTHORITY or some other X11-related variable doesn't have the right 
value.)

I get the same error from:

$ sudo su - bhaskell -c opera

But, using the `envdir` command from the 'daemontools' package¹, I'm 
able to run it successfully.  Presumably url-viewers are run via a 
'login' shell.

Re: URL Viewer

Eduardo Chappa — 2012-04-29T18:31:49


Does /bin/test exist in your system? normally just "test" instead of 
"/bin/test" is enough.