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Re: Ubuntu for Students - to rouse people interest.

Alex Mandel — 2012-05-23T02:31:02

John,

Your project is quite exciting and ambitious. I think the hardest group
to get interested is the students but they aren't the hardest group to
sell on the idea (apathy can be useful sometimes). Maybe you can pitch
it to students...almost everything they know and use daily is actually
built on top open source...Android Phones, Facebook, Google, Amazon,
Twitter, etc...
If Ubuntu (or some variant) is good enough for Google desktops and linux
is good enough for Pixar (and other animation firms) wouldn't it be good
enough for a school?

If you want to wow them, Marble (a 3D globe with current and historic
maps) is good, along with inkscape for vector illustration and gimp for
photo editing. Another selling point to the students, the computers will
work, the software can be kept up to date, old computers will run
faster, and everything they use at school they can also use at home.

Some ammo to help with the Administration, there are quite a few local
Linux user groups who could probably lend a hand and it's not hard to
find professional IT who can support such a system.
http://lalugs.org/
http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale10x

The county of Los Angeles actually uses a significant amount of open
source. Last I heard OpenOffice was part of the county standard install,
with only special exceptions made for certain job titles getting MS Excel.
I can't find a reference for this (inside information from someone I
know in LA) but there is this great page on open source mapping
technology is use.
http://egis3.lacounty.gov/eGIS/open-source-gis/

Feel free to pull any slides you want from any of my talks on open
source, http://www.scribd.com/wildintellect
If there's something you want the original Libreoffice format for let me
know.

Hopefully someone on this list will chime in with the bay area group
that helps support school computing with open source.

I could give you lots more material on how open source can be used in
teaching (which I do) but I'll save that for later if you want more.

Last bit of advise with students, leverage social media and cell phones.

Thanks,
Alex
Granada Hills High Alumni (pre-charter)
B.S. University of California, Davis
Phd Candidate, University of California, Davis

On 05/22/2012 06:53 PM, John Kim wrote:

Re: Ubuntu for Students - to rouse people interest.

Joshua Riffle — 2012-05-23T02:17:32

Have you guys taken a look at the Edubuntu ltsp project? It can be applied
to regular ubuntu and would look great to a school that doesn't want spend
money on higher hardware requirements.
On May 22, 2012 6:54 PM, "John Kim" <jkgodzvision-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Ubuntu for Students - to rouse people interest.

John Kim — 2012-05-23T01:53:41

Hi guys!

I'm John, a HS sophomore from Los Angeles.  Very recently, I kickstarted an
idea about making Ubuntu the main OS within John Marshall High School, a
dilapidated high school, still standing and reeking of age, that has been
using Windows XP for a decade now.  For those who haven't heard, I have a
post about it:
http://epikvision.blogspot.com/2012/05/game-changing-proposal-ubuntu-for.html

here's the situation: although I created a proposal, I did not hand it in
to the administration just yet (we only got one shot at this). David Montes
and I are trying to build a support base and handy foundation of research
data.  We see three primary audiences: teachers, students, and the
administration. The best way to go, we decided, is one audience at a time.

So, now that I'm trying to get students' attention,* I would like to hear
ideas and suggestions on marketing techniques and ways to rouse student
interest*.  In my school, it's mighty difficult to spark students' interest
of an OS that most has never heard of. So I leave some room for discussion.
There's only 3 weeks left of school, and I hope to gain momentum asap.

One thing I thought about is to hold a demo hands-on for students to
compare windows xp and ubuntu side by side.  After that, the people would
take a surveymonkey on their experience. I see some weakness, including
limited resources (we can't just borrow a student laptop cart and install
half of them ubuntu) or sponsorship (what room can allow us to carry this
out?  it's a lengthy process to get teacher permission).  Many more exist,
I'm sure.

2 people - David Montes and myself - alone can't make so grand a project
possible without support.  Ideas and suggestions are welcome, but
hopefully, it is do-able within 3 weeks.  Thanks for your time.

Meeting tonight, Sunday May 20th at 7PM

Elizabeth Krumbach — 2012-05-20T15:30:58

Hi everyone,

Tonight, Sunday May 20th, we're having our regularly scheduled
bi-weekly LoCo meeting at 7pm PT in #ubuntu-us-ca on irc.freenode.net

For help connecting to IRC with a client, see:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat

Or simply join us via your web browser by going
here:http://ubuntu-california.org/chat/

Current Agenda:

1. Ubuntu Developer Summit Wrap-up

The meeting page is available here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/12May6

And as always, logs will be available after the meeting and you're
welcome to add your comments here on the mailing list if you're unable
to attend.

Mountain View Ubuntu Hour on Thursday,May 17th at 7 PM

James Tatum — 2012-05-16T21:21:55

Everyone's favorite silicon valley Ubuntu hour (the first and still
the best) is meeting again in May!

Location: Red Rock Coffee, 201 Castro St, Mountain View,
http://www.redrockcoffee.org/ (Convenient to Caltrain and VTA light
rail, nice!)
When: Thursday, May 17th, 7:00 PM - 8:00 PM
What: Have coffee, grab an Ubuntu CD, chit chat with all kinds of
Ubuntu users - beginners and expert. We love meeting new people :)

We tend to congregate on the spacious 2nd floor, if available. Seek
laptop users, some with Ubuntu tee shirts, and free Ubuntu CDs. Wifi
is available for your browsing pleasure.

Optional RSVP: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/1783/detail/

Re: Repeating keys kernel bug

Grant Bowman — 2012-05-15T19:25:52

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Daniel Gimpelevich
<daniel-R/FLGEdV95bo9U+Z1CfBt0SU0eOFXohjCypLqA8HKkk< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Thank you Daniel!

I have the name of someone at Red Hat that might be able to help soon.
Asheesh mentioned the lkml might be the best place to follow up with
this. Do you or anyone you know participate in the Linux Kernel
Mailing List? https://lkml.org/ Since we have a reproducable case we
can give them this zareason hardware to work on this long standing
issue if it will help. The trick to helping solve this problem is
gathering the right data as the problem is reproduced.

Grant

Re: Repeating keys kernel bug

Daniel Gimpelevich — 2012-05-14T23:54:13

On Sun, 2012-05-13 at 23:33 -0700, Tony Baechler wrote: 

I have always had this issue on this laptop on every version of Ubuntu
but never under Windows. It is a very well-known kernel bug that has
nothing to do with the physical keyboard.

Re: Repeating keys kernel bug

Tony Baechler — 2012-05-14T06:33:01

This is not a kernel bug.  It happens in Windows and DOS as well, but 
especially in Windows.  It is a BIOS issue related to having a cheap 
keyboard.  Unfortunately, there isn't much you can do about it except look 
for a BIOS update.  However, when I got a new, high quality keyboard, the 
problem went away and never came back, even on different computers.  There 
is a company who still makes the old style keyboards like IBM used to ship 
in the 1980s.  They are heavy, durable and solidly built.  The keyboard 
controller doesn't seem to have a problem with repeating keys on those. 
They way a lot and make more noise, but they're the best keyboards out there 
and are impossible to break.  I can find more information and links if 
people are interested.  If you've been around computers for a while and 
remember the original IBM PC keyboard, that's what I'm talking about.  They 
can last a lifetime without showing any signs of damage.

On 5/13/2012 11:05 AM, Robert Lewis wrote:

Many Thanks

Robert Lewis — 2012-05-13T18:08:59

Many thanks to Nick Kassem for taking time out to come to the Felton LUG
and presenting
Ubuntu 12.04 to the group.  We had a larger turnout as a result and a lot
of questions comments
and interaction.

We are lucky that so many great people volunteer and help others in our
community.

Best Regards,
Bob

Re: Repeating keys kernel bug

Robert Lewis — 2012-05-13T18:05:32

I have had a key sticking issue on my HP Laptop for many versions of
Ubuntu.  When it happens
the last key pressed starts spewing out the repeated letters across the
screen, I can interrupt it by
hitting another key typically and the I have to erase all the errant extra
characters.  I have not figured
out how to fix it as yet.  It isn't a horrible bother as it happens rarely
for me.

Cheers,
Bob

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Grant Bowman <grantbow-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Repeating keys kernel bug

Grant Bowman — 2012-05-13T18:02:22

My friend Alex let me borrow his functionally unusable zareason laptop. I
reproduced the key sticking/repeat problem that seems to be kernel related.
Has anyone else encountered this? Bug URLs are below with more details.
This is believed to be tracked back to a very old, specific kernel version
but reproduces for me using both ubuntu 10.04's kernel as well as ubuntu
12.04's kernel.

Grant
 On May 3, 2012 12:05 PM, <akleider-65eDfwRo+1xeoWH0uzbU5w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Pasadena Ubuntu Hour - THURS MAY 10

2012-05-07T17:54:52

Pasadena Ubuntu Hour
May 10, 2012 at 6:00 PM - 7:00 PM

Peet's Coffee in Pasadena
605 S Lake Ave
Pasadena, CA 91106

http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/1764/detail/

Meet up at the original Ubuntu Hour location in Pasadena, CA! We meet at 
this location on the 2nd Thursday of every month from 6pm to 7pm. Come 
on by, meet someone new and have some fun! For more info about this 
event please email: davidandrews-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA< at >public.gmane.org <mailto:davidandrews-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA< at >public.gmane.org>

For more information about Ubuntu go here: http://www.ubuntu.com/

This Ubuntu Hour coincides with the San Gabriel Valley LUG meetings. 
More info on SGVLUG: http://www.sgvlug.org/

* there is a very slight chance we'll have some official Ubuntu 12.04 
LTS discs available. if not we will definitely have some next month.

Oakland Karaoke

Nuclear Bob — 2012-05-07T17:20:59

Does anyone from the California team know any good local karaoke places?

Thanks,
Max

Felton LUG 5/12, 2PM at the Firehouse

Grant Bowman — 2012-05-07T15:13:39

Thank you Nick for agreeing to present on the 12th, right on the heels of
UDS in Oakland this week!

Grant
 ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Robert Lewis" <bob.l.lewis-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org>
Date: May 6, 2012 10:19 PM
Subject: [Felton LUG] Next meeting 5/12/2012 2PM at the Firehouse
To: "Felton Lug" <felton-lug-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw< at >public.gmane.org>

We have a speaker for our Saturday, May 12th, Felton LUG meeting at 2PM.

Please try to attend so that we can all learn more about
Ubuntu 12.04 release and have a lively discussion.

His name is Nick Kassem and I used to work with him several years ago
and have high regard for his knowledge.  Lets have a good turnout and
discussion to make his time visiting us worthwhile.

He has been working with Ubuntu for many years and has hands-on experience
with Ubuntu 12.04 (Beta & LTS).

A bit of background on Nick is that he holds a BS ME & MS CE degrees.
He was a Technical Director at The Santa Cruz Operation for
over 6 years. He Worked at Java Software (Sun Microsystems inc.)
for about 10 years and as a Technical Director there did numerous
engineering presentations at JavaOne & authored the first book on J2EE
Enterprise computing. He now does technical consulting (mainly in IPTV and
communication infrastructures & network design).

He will present some powerpoint slides followed by our usual Q&A session.

Cheers,
Bob

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Re: Booth at Maker Faire

Jack Deslippe — 2012-05-07T02:00:39

Thanks James!

I'll send you more info. in the next few days.

Cheers,

Jack

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 4:01 PM, James Ouyang <jyouyang-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Re: Booth at Maker Faire

James Ouyang — 2012-05-06T23:01:45

Hey Jack,

I can definitely help out on Sunday (and maybe Saturday afternoon).

See you tomorrow,

James

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jack Deslippe <jdeslip-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Meeting tonight, Sunday May 6th at 7PM

Elizabeth Krumbach — 2012-05-06T18:05:26

Hi everyone,

Tonight, Sunday May 6th, we're having our regularly scheduled
bi-weekly LoCo meeting at 7pm PT in #ubuntu-us-ca on irc.freenode.net

For help connecting to IRC with a client, see:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat

Or simply join us via your web browser by going
here:http://ubuntu-california.org/chat/

Current Agenda:

1. Ubuntu Developer Summit: May 7-11:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UDS-Q

2. Booth at Maker Faire:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2012-May/001954.html

The meeting page is available here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/12May6

And as always, logs will be available after the meeting and you're
welcome to add your comments here on the mailing list if you're unable
to attend.

Re: Booth at Maker Faire

Jack Deslippe — 2012-05-06T17:37:40

Thanks Philip and Aaditya!  I'll send you more information in the next day
or so including how to get in for free and times etc...

I'll be in and out of UDS next week; so, if you are going, I'll probably
run into you there as well.

Cheers,

Jack

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 1:32 AM, Philip Ballew <philipballew-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org>wrote:

Re: Booth at Maker Faire

Philip Ballew — 2012-05-06T08:32:33

I will be there, can be there both days possibly. I would be glad to help out.

On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Jack Deslippe <jdeslip-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Booth at Maker Faire

Jack Deslippe — 2012-05-05T18:07:34

Hi All,

I know everyone is busy prepping for UDS, but I wanted to bring your
attention for a minute to an event happening the weekend after:

I have gotten a booth for BerkeleyLUG (actual title is - "Bay Area Linux
Groups") at the maker faire in two weeks - http://makerfaire.com/.  I am
hoping a couple people from Ubuntu California can make it to help man the
booth and show off the latest and greatest stuff in Ubuntu. Let me know if
you are interested - I should have some free or discounted tickets
available.

Elizabeth - can I get some disks? :)

-Jack

wireless USB mouse intermittant

Robert Lewis — 2012-05-04T05:56:04

Has anyone experienced on 12.04 32-bit a wireless mouse/keyboard not
working on boot intermittently.
Sometimes it works and sometimes does't after a reboot.  It's a Logitech
M310 if I recall.

It was working fine on Ubuntu 11.10 and after an online upgrade this
intermittent condition started.
It's happening at a friends house and I am trying to get a clue what is
going on.

The WEB seems to report others having this difficulty but I couldn't find a
LaunchPad bug that matched
closely enough for me to subscribe and follow it.

Any thoughts?

Cheers,
Bob