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About me, I'm newbie here

Álvaro Castillo — 2012-05-24T10:20:46

Hi, my name is Álvaro Castillo and I live in Arrecife, Canary, Spain. My
Fedora Account System (FAS) username is netsys, and my IRC nick is netSys,
netSys_phone.

I learned about the Fedora Marketing team through searching on Google, and
am interested in joining because Hi, my name is Álvaro Castillo and I live
in Arrecife, Canary, Spain. My Fedora Account System (FAS) username is
netsys, and my IRC nick is netSys, netSys_phone.

I learned about the Fedora Marketing team through searching on Google, and
am interested in joining because I want invest my little time to invest on
Fedora Project's image through posting info about it for all audiences or
specific public, for example, these people only uses pc to search on net
info..., or what is packages for nano technology Fedora has got... ;
helping translating wiki pages into spanish, to better attraction of
people, that is to say, if you see or watch info on your language you will
increase your interest...; in addition to, do marketing ideas on Fedora
wiki, asking ambassadors mailing lists such as latam or oficial ambassadors
lists, at this mailing list, IRC chats, do surveys, seeing linux pages
comments ...and so on.

Today, I'm spanish Fedora ambassador and Freemedia volunteer, however I'm
interested join here too.

This is the first Marketing project I have worked on!

I have not got a marketing skills, economic or graphic design knowledge,
but I can read and learn more about marketing, I am creative, aware,
interested on improve (if I can) and avoid destruction...

I'd also like to learn programming C language, marketing skills, psicology
to sell...

When I'm not working on Fedora, I am studying at high school, work
freelance, redacting post such as howtos, articles, "news" on my blog,
chatting on IRC Freenode (#fedora-es, #fedora-latam always anf others
channels), chatting on MSN, listen to music, surffing on net, thinking give
to know Fedora to public through ideas, do shows... trying helping solve
issues on Fedora through IRC, helping an ACIL, an local science academic...

A couple of goals I have for the Fedora Project are better (provided that
it can ) its image to public, get to know volunteers too and chat with
they, learn do packages to help project... andI would also like to see and
happen in Fedora.

Please help me get started!

Re: [In the News] Fedora 17 & GNOME 3.4: Return to a useful Linuxdesktop (Review)

Jiri Eischmann — 2012-05-21T08:53:09

Krzysztof Hajdamowicz píše v Ne 20. 05. 2012 v 20:22 +0200:

Well, I know about tens of users that have left Unity for either GNOME 3
in Ubuntu or another distribution for two reasons: Unity is slow (which
really is) and not productive. Some of them were power users.
In my experience, most people that have equally tried both Unity and
GNOME 3 like GNOME 3 more.

But there is no generally better environment. Everyone can pick what he
likes.

Jiri

Re: [In the News] Fedora 17 & GNOME 3.4: Return to a useful Linuxdesktop (Review)

Krzysztof Hajdamowicz — 2012-05-20T18:22:05

20 maj 2012 02:44, "Davi Garcia" <davigarcia< at >fedoraproject.org> napisał(a):

To be honest, I've moved from Fedora 16 with GNOME 3 into Ubuntu with Unity
environment and I'm amazed. Ubuntu eats less RAM, gives better battery
consumption results and most important: Unity made me more productive.
And yes, I liked GNOME 3 and I feel native in it

Re: [In the News] Fedora 17 & GNOME 3.4: Return to a useful Linuxdesktop (Review)

Jason Brooks — 2012-05-20T18:09:16

On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Davi Garcia
<davigarcia< at >fedoraproject.org> wrote:

I think that's basically it, but maybe annoyed by change is a more apt
description. I've gotten used to GNOME 3, but at first, I was pretty
grumpy about it. I really missed gnome-panel, in particular.

Jason

Re: [In the News] Fedora 17 & GNOME 3.4: Return to a useful Linuxdesktop (Review)

Davi Garcia — 2012-05-20T00:43:38

Hi all,

On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Jason Brooks
<jasonbrooks< at >fedoraproject.org> wrote:

"That said, I did find this new Fedora with GNOME to be usable. I have
to say I didn’t find the last version to be at all useful. Still, I’m
left wondering why Fedora and GNOME first went in such a mis-guided
direction in the first place. It’s great that Fedora and GNOME are
much better than they were, but they’re still not for me, anyway, as
useful as the last Fedora with GNOME 2.x was. I can see that Fedora is
better, but I’m going to be sticking with Linux Mint, Ubuntu, and
openSUSE for my daily desktop use."

To tell you the truth, I don't understand what people see of too bad
in Gnome 3.X. I confess that I had some difficult at the beginning,
but after some days, I loved it! Gnome 3 is the redefinition of the
concept of desktop enviroment. Maybe people be just afraid of the
change...

[]s,
Davi Garcia

Fedora Project's Contributor
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:davigarcia

[In the News] Fedora 18 Approves Controversial Feature

Jason Brooks — 2012-05-19T18:03:52

"At the FESCo meeting on Monday, aside from Fedora reaffirmining their
commitment towards the GCC compiler, the FESCo members also approved
some new features for Fedora 18. One of the approved features
[procps-ng] has already sparked the grievance of Lennart Poettering."

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEwMzQ

[In the News] Fedora 17 & GNOME 3.4: Return to a useful Linux desktop(Review)

Jason Brooks — 2012-05-19T17:58:50

In a brief ZDNet review, Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols offers faint praise
for Fedora 17:

"GNOME 3.2, which was Fedora 16’s desktop, was dreadful. You don’t
have to trust me on that though, just ask Linus Torvalds, Linux’s
founder. He hated GNOME 3.2.

"That was then. This is now. Fedora 17, with the ungainly name Beefy
Miracle-no I’m not making that up, that really is its name-is now in
late beta and it’s much better than it was."

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/fedora-17-gnome-34-return-to-a-useful-linux-desktop-review/10975

[In the News] Fedora 17 won't be released until 29 May

Jason Brooks — 2012-05-19T17:49:39

"The Fedora Project has pushed back the release of the Fedora 17 Linux
distribution by a week, from 22 May to 29 May. The main reason is that
the project wants to take care of four bugs classified as blockers in
the current release candidates; if possible, the developers will also
use the extra time to fix a dozen other problems."

http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Fedora-17-won-t-be-released-until-29-May-1578843.html

[In the News] 10 Years RedHat

wonderer — 2012-05-18T19:31:11

Hi,

Happy B-Day :-)

"[...]Red Hat Linux Advanced Server 2.1 was the first product in the 
RHEL line; it was released ten years ago, shortly after Red Hat Linux 
(RHL) 7.3. One-and-a-half years later, RHL 7.3 died and was reborn 
inFedora <http://fedoraproject.org/>, a community project founded and 
sponsored by Red Hat that has provided the basis for RHEL ever since.[...]"

http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Ten-years-of-Red-Hat-Enterprise-Linux-1577126.html

mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards
Henrik Heigl - wonderer< at >fedoraproject.org

PGP/GnuPG: 8237 D432 0616 D567 DBC6  3FE3 0D52 B374 F468 A5F0

Re: Feedback from Distrowatch

Mark Terranova — 2012-05-15T16:32:29

Greetings Fedorans, this whole logo thing has been going on for a while. I
use it to my advantage and as part of my Linux advocacy. I have a Fedora
sticker in front of *acebook*.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/105095769731159704550/posts/ivTqyEAKEbS <<<pic
All I need is for folks to come up and ask me whats the deal with that?
Next thing ya know, I am telling them about Linux, Fedora, and the Beefy
Miracle.

Sense of humor is key here. If life gives you lemons, make lemonade. Then
maybe put some booze in it, and share it with others. At this point, you
and your new friends can talk about the bastard that thought it was a good
idea to give you lemons.

-Mark
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:19 AM, Kévin Raymond <shaiton< at >fedoraproject.org>wrote:

Re: Preinstall Fedora OS

Tom Callaway — 2012-05-02T13:30:20

Fedora has guidelines regarding OEM pre-loads of unmodified Fedora software:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines#OEM_pre-loads_of_unmodified_Fedora_software

Assuming that you are compliant with those guidelines, you may
preinstall and redistribute Fedora on your PCs.

If you have questions, please feel free to direct them to me.

Thanks,

Tom Callaway
Fedora Legal

[In the News] Fedora 18 Linux will be a Spherical Cow

Jason Brooks — 2012-05-11T01:35:38

"How do you follow-up a name like Beefy Miracle? (the name of the
upcoming Fedora 17 Linux release).

"With another Cow of course."

http://www.internetnews.com/blog/skerner/fedora-18-linux-will-be-a-spherical-cow.html

[In the News] Fedora 17 beta review – Miraculously beefy

Jason Brooks — 2012-05-11T01:29:06

"The Fedora Project is preparing for the final release of Fedora 17 with
the beta version of their cutting edge distribution. Dubbed Beefy
Miracle, the release of the beta was delayed for three weeks while
further testing and bug fixing was done to meet the stringent
requirements set down by the team.

"This development version brings with it a number of new features and
upgrades, all of them to show off the very latest, and upcoming, open
source software."

http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/reviews/fedora-17-beta-review-miraculously-beefy/

[In the News] Fedora Project is naming names

Jason Brooks — 2012-05-11T01:24:34

"The Fedora Project is still trying to clarify its process of naming
major releases, a process that has been met with calls for revision
within the Fedora community.

"To address the problem, Fedora Advisory Board member Toshio Kuratomi is
working to build a new naming process that will avoid some of the
pitfalls of the most-recent naming concerns."

http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/276036/fedora-project-naming-names

Re: Feedback from Distrowatch

Buddhike Kurera — 2012-05-09T04:09:33

Change of logo -10000
Increase brand awareness +1

Further the Facebook page, 'Fedora Project" but it should "The Fedora
Project", logo is not properly used too.

Re: Feedback from Distrowatch

Abhishek Singh — 2012-05-09T03:21:49

Fedora Logo has a long established base, and changing the logo would not
be a good decision in my opinion.

Re: Feedback from Distrowatch

Ruth Suehle — 2012-05-08T18:56:45

Speaking of which, who owns
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fedora-Project/7670534782? The image has
a serious logo-squishing problem.

Re: Feedback from Distrowatch

Danishka Navin — 2012-05-08T18:48:47



it would be great if we could identify the region/location of those people.
but there is no such information i guess.

I think we should increase our presence in the social media specially in
Facebook itself.

Re: Feedback from Distrowatch

inode0 — 2012-05-08T18:36:47

If it is confused with other logos from a similar product space then
it isn't perfect. It may well be no fault of the logo but it is a
problem.


If a lot of someones think it is related to Facebook then it is a
problem worth thinking about before it gets completely out of control.
We have seen other hints that this confusion exists in the past as
well.

Admitting we have a brand problem which seems to be related to some
similar aspects that exist in our logo and in Facebook's logo doesn't
mean we need to abandon our logo. Are there other ways available to us
to mitigate this confusion? Perhaps advertising Fedora more widely so
more people are exposed to our brand more often? Perhaps something
else?

John

Re: Feedback from Distrowatch

Evgenii Debacker — 2012-05-08T17:37:46

On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 08:08 -0300, Davi Garcia wrote: 


One can actually make Fedora logo red, like old kind Red Hat Linux that
I started Linux with. But is it really good idea?! Then Fedora would
need to change logo every time something "new" appears!!..  

Also I, *.deb - user ask everyone: does Fedora, like Ubuntu, likes the
idea to attract users who think everything in the world is Facebook or
plug-in to Facebook?! (Loosing "stable", "serious" users?!) 
Seriously, you should know the difference between Linux, GNU and
Facebook, even if you start using Ubuntu / Kubuntu / Linux Mint! 

Evgenii, Russia, running Trisquel.

Re: Feedback from Distrowatch

Robyn Bergeron — 2012-05-08T13:12:53

It wouldn't just be the logo. It would wind up being the whole branding.

We've spent a LOT of time building this branding up - I think the
effects of diluting the brand  / muddying it with a new one would be
more far more detrimental.