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Re: Evince and annotation support

Bastien Nocera — 2012-05-25T13:11:12

That's a bug really. People had similar problems getting access to
Totem's other sidebars. Annotations should be one click away from the
View menu.

Feel free to file an upstream bug about it.

Re: Evince and annotation support

Matthias Clasen — 2012-05-25T13:04:00


Here is a screenshot of it in action:
http://mclasen.fedorapeople.org/evince-annotation.png

Re: Evince and annotation support

Ankur Sinha — 2012-05-25T12:47:48

Hello Joseph,

I have used Mendeley, and while it's amazing, I'm really looking for a
FOSS tool kit at the moment. There are various tools for various
purposes, but none that does them all (organizing, referencing,
annotations etc.) really. I'm just going through their respective road
maps to see what else is planned.

Re: Evince and annotation support

Ankur Sinha — 2012-05-25T11:39:01

Ah! Great! 

Any clue why it's so well hidden? :-)

I filed the fedora bug so that the maintainer might be able to give some
clues. I would've filed a bug upstream after gaining some information
eventually :-) 

I'm closing the bug with a link to the help document.

Re: Evince and annotation support

Florian Müllner — 2012-05-25T11:30:27


It is rather well hidden, but there is indeed annotation support in Evince.
Here's[0] the help of the F15 version. (Note that if there wasn't any
support, opening a Fedora bug would be unlikely to fix that - issues like
this belong upstream)


Florian

[0] http://library.gnome.org/users/evince/3.0/annotations.html.en

Evince and annotation support

Ankur Sinha — 2012-05-25T10:54:51

Hello folks,

I've been looking for a pdf reader that provides annotation support.
It's a must for us research students that need to go through large
amounts of academic text. I ran into this bug[1] that says that Evince
would have annotation support in F15 (It was closed as "rawhide" long
back). I'm on the latest F17 system, but I can't find this in Evince
here. Would someone know what the status is? I've filed a fresh bug
too.[2]

I'm considering moving to okular or xournal which appear to have
annotation support out of necessity. However, I'd much prefer to stick
to my gnome set of tools :)

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530238
[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=825198

Re: InstallFedoraButton for LiveCD

Bastien Nocera — 2012-04-20T11:22:49


----- Original Message -----

We don't want to ship extensions to gnome-shell.


Nobody said we didn't want to make changes to gnome-shell to fix this particular problem, but shipping extensions is not the right way to fix this.

Re: InstallFedoraButton for LiveCD

Kamil Paral — 2012-04-20T09:59:37

Matthias, please comment in devel (preferred) or anaconda-devel list, so we don't split the discussion among X lists. This was just a call for desktop SIG members.

I know your opinion and I know you disapprove. OTOH all the other people (maybe with a single other exception) see it as an improvement, and I tend to believe we make Fedora for the people. That's why I send out this call, to have more desktop-related people comment on this, not just your single voice. I'd like to know what "we" in your sentence means. I don't want to offend you in any way, but my current impression is that you're taking stance of a desktop designer purist, who doesn't want to admit this is situation where an exception to your guidelines needs to be made. I know you're putting hard work into GNOME and I'm glad for it, but in this particular case I think you're just not seeing it through the end-user eyes.

I don't try to avoid anything, the discussion is very public (that's why I ask everyone to follow on that devel thread), but F17 deadline is nearing and I don't want to miss it.

Re: InstallFedoraButton for LiveCD

Matthias Clasen — 2012-04-19T23:44:54

Please don't do that. We want to ship gnome-shell without extensions, I
thought I had made that clear. What do you hope to achieve by putting
this extension in another package, making it impossible for us to avoid
it ?

InstallFedoraButton for LiveCD

Kamil Paral — 2012-04-19T20:59:21

Hello Desktop SIG,

I have created a gnome-shell extension for Fedora Desktop LiveCD which should make the Fedora Installer more discoverable. I have discussed it on devel list:

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-April/165234.html

and then proposed to include it into anaconda:

https://www.redhat.com/archives/anaconda-devel-list/2012-April/msg00212.html

Since your interest is the desktop and its default look and feel, could you please voice your opinions on one of those lists (preferably probably devel)?

Thanks.

Beta RC3 available, please help with desktop validation

Adam Williamson — 2012-04-04T18:32:32

Hey, folks. 17 Beta RC3 is finally available now, please help with
desktop validation!

http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/17-Beta.RC3/

KDE, Xfce and LXDE are pretty close to RC2, I think. GNOME 3.4 is in, so
Desktop has changed. We did test with an unofficial 'pre-RC3' live image
with GNOME 3.4 built in and found it passed all validation tests, so
that's good, but we should re-do them with the official build just to
make sure. Thanks!

As always, instructions and results matrix at:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Beta_RC3_Desktop

thanks again!

Re: Only fingerprint authentication to unlock screen in Gnome3 F16?

Ankur Sinha — 2012-03-27T11:14:37

Ah! Thanks Bastien. I'll wait :)

Re: Only fingerprint authentication to unlock screen in Gnome3 F16?

Bastien Nocera — 2012-03-27T11:00:00

----- Original Message -----

Yes.


Yes.


It's not a bug, it's a missing feature:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=563703

Hopefully will get fixed once screensaver support is in gnome-shell itself. Ray?

Cheers

Re: Fedora 17 Beta RC1 desktop validation needed

Debarshi Ray — 2012-03-26T09:53:00

Looking at those pages, I think this does not meet the blocker criteria. So
not requesting a break at the moment.

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Sanjay Patil — 2012-03-26T04:15:15

Re: Fedora 17 Beta RC1 desktop validation needed

Bruno Wolff III — 2012-03-25T14:19:07

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 09:36:16 +0000,
   Debarshi Ray <rishi.is< at >lostca.se> wrote:

You have to submit it as a beta blocker via bugzilla. If it gets voted as 
a blocker it will get in. If it gets voted as nice to have it will get 
include if another release candidate gets built after it gets that 
designation.

However, I don't think not being able to make video calls is going to
get voted in as either nice to have or as a blocker.

Information about how this works is at:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Blocker_Bug_FAQ
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Beta_Release_Criteria
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Alpha_Release_Criteria

Note we will probably cover blockers in tomorrow's QA meeting as
we need to have an accepted Beta RC early this week in order not
to slip. It looks like there may be one blocker that will force
another Beta RC build. (Things are still developing and it isn't
official that we need another Beta RC yet.)

Re: Fedora 17 Beta RC1 desktop validation needed

Debarshi Ray — 2012-03-25T09:36:16

We need this farstream-0.1.2-2.fc17 build for video calls to work:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=309372

Can it be included in the beta?

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Only fingerprint authentication to unlock screen in Gnome3 F16?

Ankur Sinha — 2012-03-24T22:06:47

Hello,

I recently got my fingerprint reader to work. I can now use it to log in
to my system as an alternative to entering the password. However, when I
lock my screen (ctrl alt l), or when it gets locked with the
screen-saver automatically, I cannot enter my password to unlock it. The
only way to unlock it is the fingerprint reader. The text box is greyed
out. Is this intentional? Shouldn't both methods be available? eg
(happened today): If I'm snacking at my desk and my right hand is
unclean, I would like to type in my password with my left hand and get
on with some work (like check mails or view a video or surf the web
etc.) Of course, in this scenario my right index finger is the
registered one.

If I click on switch user and go back to the gdm login screen, I can
then use both the password and fingerprint reader to login to my user
again, but this isn't the same really. 

Can someone please confirm this behaviour? I shall file a bug if it is
one.

Fedora 17 Beta RC1 desktop validation needed

Adam Williamson — 2012-03-23T20:51:06

Hey folks!

By some miracle we've managed to get Fedora 17 Beta RC1 out almost on
time:

http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/17-Beta.RC1/

As always, we need to do the desktop validation for it. See the desktop
validation page:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Beta_RC1_Desktop

And please, if you can, help us to fill in the results for your
desktops. Desktop team, I know we didn't get 3.3.92 into Beta and sorry
about that, but we do need to check it passes the validation tests - the
ones for Beta aren't too difficult and shouldn't take long to do, so if
you can help that'd be great.

I have done a smoke test on all four desktops; they all boot okay to a
sane looking desktop and successfully install to hard disk and boot from
hard disk, so they're all clearly testable, not DOA.

Thanks everyone!

Fwd: Re: Release Notes Update

Paul W. Frields — 2012-03-21T14:49:19

From the docs< at > list, FYI, in case someone has some time in which they
can contribute to release notes for desktop, system daemons, web
servers, or for that matter any other existing beats:

----- Forwarded message from "John J. McDonough" <wb8rcr< at >arrl.net> -----

On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 23:27 -0400, Christopher R. Antila wrote:

That would be much appreciated.  I need to get cracking on the RPM or it
won't make it into beta.  I see we have KDE there but no GNOME.  Without
some help there will be no mention of GNOME 3.4 in the RNs (other than a
word in Overview).  Also, there are some minimal notes in Musicians.  Do
they need to be embellished or will we leave that beat blank?

On https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Beats I have marked as
empty those beats that I think will be empty in the release notes.  If
anyone feels like that is a problem you only have a few hours to fix it.

I'm going to get working on the Multimedia beat.  If anyone could grab
the Daemons beat it would be much appreciated.  Or the other way around,
if someone wants to take Multimedia while I work on Daemons that would
work, too.

Also, Yuri made some notes in Web Servers.  If he or someone else could
embellish those it would be good.

I anticipate building the RPM around 1800Z. I will then be looking for
folks to quickly give it some karma.


--McD

----- End forwarded message -----

Testing Empathy: audio and voice calls

Debarshi Ray — 2012-03-20T14:50:24

I am looking for someone who will be interested in acting as a dummy
to test audio and video calls using the Empathy / Telepathy stack in
Fedora 17.

The way I plan to do it is to place a few audio calls to the dummy
from a few Jabber servers, and then ask the dummy to call me back.
Will repeat the process with video calls.

If something does not work as expected, we might have to repeat the
particular call to try and reproduce the problem, save the logs, etc..

Please contact me offlist if you are interested.

Thanks,
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