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Re: Guidelines for the sites on fedoracommunity.org

Kévin Raymond — 2012-05-25T14:31:21

[snip]

Yes, and as Andrea explained, the idea is not necessarily to have
official websites.
If we provide several local communities websites, one would probably
grow faster than the other,
we should probably not limit to the registered one.


Sorry I don't have enough free time,
but I agree, having a clear process to be registered in f.comm.org
would be useful to us (websites) and you (communities).

Re: Guidelines for the sites on fedoracommunity.org

2012-05-25T08:02:42

Gianluca Sforna <giallu< at >gmail.com> ha scritto:


+1


I think the points listed by Gianluca are a good base from where we  
could start. It's also a good idea if this guidelines suggest how to  
start a new local community, because there are several countries where  
Fedora isn't present at all.
IMHO the "policy" should remain a guideline, as the decision of being  
or not the most rappresentative local community will in any case be  
taken by the end user. In my eyes the end user should ever remain the  
main goal of any Fedora related initiative.


I renew my availability to take part of this workgroup.
Cheers
Robert Mayr

robyduck
http://www.fedoraonline.it





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Re: Guidelines for the sites on fedoracommunity.org

Gianluca Sforna — 2012-05-24T15:24:43

I can see why Fedora as a legal entity can not endorse any local site
to be "Official", but I think it's in Fedora's project best interest
to promote aggregation of local communities over a single website;
IMHO that can be done even without blessing the site with an official
tag, it is enough for the project to refer new users (the the most
likely to be confused by a dozen community sites in the same country)
to a single one. The fedoracommunity.org web site seems best suited to
be the jump point between the official Fedora project and the
independent local websites so the question is how do we pick the site
to be linked from fedoracommunity.org? That's where the guidelines
part comes in.

Of  course, we all know there are times when "forks" are necessary and
healthy so these guidelines should not prevent new Fedora related
websites to born and prosper, but until there is an established and
healthy community web site it should be clear from the beginning that
it will continue to be the one referred from fedoracommunity.org.

Now for the guidelines part, my guess is that it should cover (in no
particular order)
* what constitutes a local community site (services, domain, language, etc)
* how to find existing existing local communities (and encourage joining them)
* how to start a new local community when one is missing or not active
* health check procedure (what activities are expected to happen at
the local level)
* requirements to meet before being listed in fedoracommunity.org

I know it seems quite a bit of work to do, but I'm pretty sure it is
going to pay off in the log term, both in terms of participation to
the project and less headaches for all involved parties...

Cheers

G.

Re: Guidelines for the sites on fedoracommunity.org

Christopher Meng — 2012-05-24T10:22:28

I think that fedora.xx, which xx means country abbreviation.

On Thursday, May 24, 2012, Andrea Veri wrote:

Re: Guidelines for the sites on fedoracommunity.org

Andrea Veri — 2012-05-24T10:08:31


From what I remember Fedora has never been in favour of granting the 
'Official' status to a localized community and that caused in a few 
places the following issues:

1. multiple localized communities got created having the same 
   objectives, target users.
2. "wars" between the localized communities of the same country, like
   it's happening in Italy.

I agree there should be a proposal since leaving things as they are 
now will just weaken the Fedora community at first and as a 
consequence the localized communities themselves.

cheers,

Andrea

P.S I explained my position about this already on the past Board's 
elections as you can see at [1], point 1.

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Board_nominations&oldid=238761#Andrea_Veri_.28averi.29
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Guidelines for the sites on fedoracommunity.org

2012-05-24T09:53:05

Hello,
I see that there are some local communities who want to be included to  
the same local fedoracommunity.org subdomain, such as Indonesia and  
now Italy.
I'm directly involved in that issue, as webmaster of fedoraonline.it,  
the actual it.fedoracommunity.org and greatest italian community. I  
think this could be a problem in the future too, so why not discuss  
about some guidelines which helps the local communities but also the  
website team to define clearly the state of a community?
I'm thinking about a solution like the Ubuntu communities:
obviously, everyone can create a new local community, but only one  
community rappresent the single State. I remember there are regular  
"tests", which verify the activity of the local community and if the  
site is just online. If the test fails another local community site  
has the right to take the place of the precedent one.

Sharing resources is more efficient than spreading users I think, so  
it should be obvious that the goal of the fedoracommunity site is to  
give the end user a clearly identified local community.

I'm open to be an active part in finding new guidelines, if you want.

Cheers
Robert Mayr
robyduck

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Re: The hotdog debate continues. (Was: folks are still whining aboutnames? Rly?)

Christopher Meng — 2012-05-24T02:23:27

nice article.

On Wednesday, May 23, 2012, Mark Terranova <Markdude< at >fedoraproject.org>
wrote:
make *everyone* happy. It’s NOT gonna happen. You are not engaged in
*reality*. I would also suggest that you may not fully understand the
greatness of the Fedora Project. We are NOT vanilla. We dont always take
the *safe route*. We live on the edge, an edge that we usually forge
ourselves. If you want to play everything safe, go ahead. I can point you
to some very nice folks, in other Distros.
common sense folks that want to create a balance (the core design team as
well as Inode0). The other two parts are extremists. I realized that some
of the push was from revisionists, and those with *no sense of humor*. I
have decided to take up the other extreme of defending ANY perceived attack
on the GLORIOUS Beefy Miracle.
this. Most likely I need to back off the cartoon hotdog thing a bit, and
also accept that we can have *mildly silly* names for releases. The other
side of the scale needs to work on your coping skills and maybe get a sense
of humor. If you can’t get a sense of humor, it may be in your best
interest to accept others ENJOY having a sense of humor.
India that may feel a religious slight at cow references. I acknowledge
your opinions as valid, and choose not to enter a debate with you (-:)
you may be). If you feel that we can have 100% of contributors happy, you
are missing a bit of reality. I ask you to either reconsider, or
respectfully I ask you to GTFO. Maybe go join a group with 12 people, the
BSDs are a great option. They have an advantage of contribs being able to
push stuff upstream in a few days, and everyone has areas they get to
*control*.
brief while, and then moved on. I accepted that my side (term used loosely
here) had lost. Can the other extremists do the same. You lost. Effing
COPE. Get over it, move the eff on.
*the guy in the penguin suit*. Or to be known for my
debates/arguments/pissing contests. I also never planned on being so
associated with a cartoon hotdog. It just sorta happened. Sometimes destiny
picks you.
extremists in this letter (reality based ideas can be addressed to the
grown-ups next). Here is the deal; if you are on the extreme in the naming
debate, consider my pointer finger *directly aimed at YOU* -- it is
currently wagging your direction. To run with my metaphor, the other
fingers are pointed *at myself*. I *know* I am being an asshat here. I am
not sure the other extremists have this awareness. I will hold my extreme
here as a counterbalance to you. Hopefully we cancel each other out, I’m
pretty sure we will ;)
fellow extremists to come *play*. Off the deep end I go...
by definition are a *minority* of voters. You are NOT in the 50%+. Lick
your wounds come back another day after regrouping.
debate. Bring it. You *still* want to push? Cool. I want to see if we can
add a 5th foundation. Effing sense of humor. Good stuff. TRY it.
those who would attempt to poison.  And you will know the name is the Beefy
Miracle  when vengeance is laid upon thee (Pulp Fiction paraphrased).
lost the future.
fight on IRC, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength,
we shall defend *humor*, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight the
beaches, we shall fight on the social media, we shall fight in debates and
in the bikeshedding arguments (bikeshed.org), we shall fight in the
shadows; we shall *never* surrender. Those with *common sense* will carry
on the struggle, until, in the Hotdog’s good time, the Project, with all
its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of HUMOR.
We ARE a cult (a GOOD cult, but, a cult nonetheless [One of my talks on
this; http://videos.mitrasites.com/linux-users'-group-of-davis.html]).
based opinions on the naming thing (that will be my next ML post). As
 project we can’t get to the core issue as long as there is a debate
amongst us D-bags. This project is FULL of great people, we ALL have our
moments. My fellow extremists PLEASE *stand down* so we can move on. Move
the eff on. Let’s join reality again.
written in <sarcasm font> Also, please note that this version is far more
tame than my original, which was entitled *Get a sense of humor or GTFO*

Fedora Board, FESCo, and FAmSCo elections: Town hall meeting schedule

Robyn Bergeron — 2012-05-23T11:43:56

As you have (hopefully) heard by now, elections for the Fedora Board, 
FESCo, and FAmSCo are quickly approaching.

In each election cycle, a series of town hall meetings is held to give 
community members and opportunity to ask candidates questions - and hear 
their answers - via IRC.

The town hall schedule for the upcoming election is as follows:

Fedora Project Board:
* Tuesday, May 29, 2012 at 17:00 UTC
* Wednesday, May 30, 2012 at 20:00 UTC

FESCo (Fedora Engineering Steering Committee):
* Wednesday, May 30, 2012 at 17:00 UTC
* Thursday, May 31, 2012 at 20:00 UTC

FAmSCo (Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee):
* Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 16:00 UTC
* Monday, May 28 at 17:00 UTC

Not sure what time that is? Use a handy-dandy time zone calculator to 
find out when to show up:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html

Important information about how you can participate in the town halls 
via IRC, as well as the details of each town hall meeting, can be seen 
on the wiki here:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections#IRC_Town_Halls

Additional details about the upcoming elections, including who the 
candidates are and the schedule for elections, can be seen here:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections

IRC town halls are a great and interesting way to get to know the 
candidates for the various bodies. I encourage you to come and 
participate, and bring your questions!

Cheers,

-Robyn
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The hotdog debate continues. (Was: folks are still whining aboutnames? Rly?)

Mark Terranova — 2012-05-22T22:16:30

*“And on the 17th release he saw the name, and YAY, it *was* good.”

It recently dawned on me that some in Fedora have a goal of trying to make
*everyone* happy. It’s NOT gonna happen. You are not engaged in *reality*.
I would also suggest that you may not fully understand the greatness of the
Fedora Project. We are NOT vanilla. We dont always take the *safe route*.
We live on the edge, an edge that we usually forge ourselves. If you want
to play everything safe, go ahead. I can point you to some very nice folks,
in other Distros.

IMHO, we have 3 camps in the *naming debate*. In the middle we have some
common sense folks that want to create a balance (the core design team as
well as Inode0). The other two parts are extremists. I realized that some
of the push was from revisionists, and those with *no sense of humor*. I
have decided to take up the other extreme of defending ANY perceived attack
on the GLORIOUS Beefy Miracle.

My offer to the other extreme; *stand down* and let the grown-ups decide
this. Most likely I need to back off the cartoon hotdog thing a bit, and
also accept that we can have *mildly silly* names for releases. The other
side of the scale needs to work on your coping skills and maybe get a sense
of humor. If you can’t get a sense of humor, it may be in your best
interest to accept others ENJOY having a sense of humor.

(For the record, I am COMPLETELY sidestepping objections from folks in
India that may feel a religious slight at cow references. I acknowledge
your opinions as valid, and choose not to enter a debate with you (-:)

The rest of this diatribe is focused on my fellow extremists (wherever you
may be). If you feel that we can have 100% of contributors happy, you are
missing a bit of reality. I ask you to either reconsider, or respectfully I
ask you to GTFO. Maybe go join a group with 12 people, the BSDs are a great
option. They have an advantage of contribs being able to push stuff
upstream in a few days, and everyone has areas they get to *control*.

When we have chosen what I considered to be boring names, I complained a
brief while, and then moved on. I accepted that my side (term used loosely
here) had lost. Can the other extremists do the same. You lost. Effing
COPE. Get over it, move the eff on.

When I started in FOSS years ago, I *never* planned on being known as *the
guy in the penguin suit*. Or to be known for my debates/arguments/pissing
contests. I also never planned on being so associated with a cartoon
hotdog. It just sorta happened. Sometimes destiny picks you.

To keep my words a *bit* more manageable, I will just address the
extremists in this letter (reality based ideas can be addressed to the
grown-ups next). Here is the deal; if you are on the extreme in the naming
debate, consider my pointer finger *directly aimed at YOU* -- it is
currently wagging your direction. To run with my metaphor, the other
fingers are pointed *at myself*. I *know* I am being an asshat here. I am
not sure the other extremists have this awareness. I will hold my extreme
here as a counterbalance to you. Hopefully we cancel each other out, I’m
pretty sure we will ;)

With the grown-ups watching us, I walk to the playground and ask my fellow
extremists to come *play*. Off the deep end I go...

Let the D-baggery commence. It’s a hodog, stop fighting it, you LOST. You
by definition are a *minority* of voters. You are NOT in the 50%+. Lick
your wounds come back another day after regrouping.

I’m pretty sure a few of you still want to come down to the gutter and
debate. Bring it. You *still* want to push? Cool. I want to see if we can
add a 5th foundation. Effing sense of humor. Good stuff. TRY it.

And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger
those who would attempt to poison.  And you will know the name is the Beefy
Miracle  when vengeance is laid upon thee (Pulp Fiction paraphrased).

If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have
lost the future.
Winston Churchill<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/winstonchu136286.html>

Give em another paraphrase? Beaches *love* Churchill.

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight on mailing lists, we shall fight
on IRC, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength, we
shall defend *humor*, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight the beaches,
we shall fight on the social media, we shall fight in debates and in the
bikeshedding arguments (bikeshed.org), we shall fight in the shadows; we
shall *never* surrender. Those with *common sense* will carry on the
struggle, until, in the Hotdog’s good time, the Project, with all its power
and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of HUMOR.

We are ALL on the same team. The Linux team. Supporters of the Penguin. We
ARE a cult (a GOOD cult, but, a cult nonetheless [One of my talks on this;
http://videos.mitrasites.com/linux-users'-group-of-davis.html]).

Not to shock anyone, but I actually do have some factual and reality based
opinions on the naming thing (that will be my next ML post). As  project we
can’t get to the core issue as long as there is a debate amongst us D-bags.
This project is FULL of great people, we ALL have our moments. My fellow
extremists PLEASE *stand down* so we can move on. Move the eff on. Let’s
join reality again.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/stand-down

-Mark

If your browser does not support it, please be aware that most of this is
written in <sarcasm font> Also, please note that this version is far more
tame than my original, which was entitled *Get a sense of humor or GTFO**
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Board IRC Meeting Minutes :: 2012-05-16

Robyn Bergeron — 2012-05-16T20:07:20

Logs: 
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-16/fedora_board_meeting.2012-05-16-18.30.log.html
Minutes: 
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-16/fedora_board_meeting.2012-05-16-18.30.html

=====================================
#fedora-meeting: Fedora Board Meeting
=====================================


Meeting started by rbergeron at 18:30:47 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-16/fedora_board_meeting.2012-05-16-18.30.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call and Gathering of Steam  (rbergeron, 18:31:43)
   * probinson is unable to attend  (gholms, 18:32:28)
   * rdieter sends regrets, as does abadger1999; cwickert is travelling
     to fudcon kuala lumpur  (rbergeron, 18:33:09)

* Announcements  (rbergeron, 18:35:35)
   * F17 - RC1 for final/GA is available now.
     http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test-announce/2012-May/000449.html
     (rbergeron, 18:36:21)
   * Please help out in testing, validating, if you can.  (rbergeron,
     18:36:34)
   * FUDCon Kuala Lumpur is this weekend -
     https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:KualaLumpur_2012  (rbergeron,
     18:37:06)
   * Loving wishes going their way are welcomed. We look forward to
     seeing all the attendees' blog posts!  (rbergeron, 18:37:27)

* Agenda for Today  (rbergeron, 18:38:36)
   * Agenda for today is short but sweet (just like me, ha ha ha): Open
     Q&A, A quick checkin on the release naming topic, Perhaps a
     discussion on the Board continuing to report on personal goals, a
     check for any other missed business.  (rbergeron, 18:39:52)

* Open Q&  A!  (rbergeron, 18:43:54)
   * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base   (rbergeron,
     18:46:58)

* Naming Process... process  (rbergeron, 19:08:58)
   * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Future_Release_Naming
     (rbergeron, 19:10:42)
   * Wiki page with people interested in participating in the possible
     rework of the release naming process going forward.  (rbergeron,
     19:11:03)
   * At this point, the thing this effort is lacking is someone to take
     charge -- organize meetings, etc.  (rbergeron, 19:11:18)
   * ACTION: jreznik to ping folks tomorrow on moving onwards in the
     naming release process  (rbergeron, 19:29:39)

* Board Member Goals ... thoughts?  (rbergeron, 19:30:56)

* Open Floor / Any Other Business / Late additions to agenda
   (rbergeron, 19:50:37)
   * ACTION: gholms to check on the 18:00 UTC meeting time slot at
     today's EMEA meeting  (gholms, 19:58:01)
   * Elections - nominations for Board, FESCo, and FAmSCo are now CLOSED.
     (rbergeron, 19:58:49)
   * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections   (rbergeron,
     19:59:04)
   * Please refer to the schedule for upcoming dates of interest.
     (rbergeron, 19:59:19)
   * Candidates should be sending their completed questionnaires by May
     22  (rbergeron, 20:00:26)
   * Next Board public IRC meeting on 2012-05-30, same bat time, same bat
     channel  (rbergeron, 20:01:53)

Meeting ended at 20:03:38 UTC.




Action Items
------------
* jreznik to ping folks tomorrow on moving onwards in the naming release
   process
* gholms to check on the 18:00 UTC meeting time slot at today's EMEA
   meeting




Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* gholms
   * gholms to check on the 18:00 UTC meeting time slot at today's EMEA
     meeting
* jreznik
   * jreznik to ping folks tomorrow on moving onwards in the naming
     release process
* **UNASSIGNED**
   * (none)




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* th3sp00n (8)
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Re: Public IRC Board Meeting today, Wednesday, 2012-05-16 18:30 UTC

Peter Robinson — 2012-05-16T18:31:42

Apologies for the late notice but I won't be able to attend.

Peter

On May 16, 2012 4:09 PM, "Robyn Bergeron" <rbergero< at >redhat.com> wrote:
IRC
have a quorum or not at meeting time, but Q&  A at the bare minimum can
continue.
Board meeting, I would be appreciative of that - some people miss it (and
yes, I know, others detest it!). I'll be en route back from a doctor visit
around the time when we'd want to do so (approximately a half-hour prior to
the meeting.)
coordinate/lead. Perhaps that person could do a whenisgood time checkin for
the people who are interested in being involved.
Yay/Nay?
18:30 UTC
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Public IRC Board Meeting today, Wednesday, 2012-05-16 18:30 UTC

Robyn Bergeron — 2012-05-16T14:49:00

Greetings!

This is a friendly reminder that the Fedora Board will be having a public IRC
meeting Today!, Wednesday, May 16, at 18:30 UTC. This meeting is open to
everyone, participation and input is welcomed.

We do have a few people expected to be out this week, we shall see if we have a quorum or not at meeting time, but Q&  A at the bare minimum can continue.

If someone is available to do a ping in all the channels to notify of the Board meeting, I would be appreciative of that - some people miss it (and yes, I know, others detest it!). I'll be en route back from a doctor visit around the time when we'd want to do so (approximately a half-hour prior to the meeting.)

When: 18:30 UTC (2:30pm US-Eastern), on May 16, 2012
Where: in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net (assuming no conflicts)
Meeting Info:http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/IRC
Meeting Secretary: Robyn Bergeron

Today's agenda is:

* Announcements
* Open Q&  A
* Open Discussion items:
   ** Release Naming: Checking in to see if someone is willing to coordinate/lead. Perhaps that person could do a whenisgood time checkin for the people who are interested in being involved.
   ** Board members continuing to report in on their personal goals: Yay/Nay?
* Any other business?
* Next public Board IRC meeting time/date confirmation: May 30, 2012, 18:30 UTC

-Robyn

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Re: Subdomain request: fudcon.fedoraproject.org

Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail — 2012-05-12T02:01:28

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Kévin Raymond
<shaiton< at >fedoraproject.org> wrote:

ok then :-) .. in the meantime fedora.my will be using this for our
events (FADs, Release Party, etc) .. and I'll be improving it as it
goes, and when it matures a bit more, create a generic deployment
buildout in case fudcon.fp.o or other communities/conference  want to
run their own setup ..

p/s: just another idea, but this might be cool too .. of course, it
will need system made/customized for it ...

events.fp.o/fudcon/<region>/year
events.fp.o/fad/<location>/<MMYY>
events.fp.o/releaseparty/<location>/<relnum>

Re: Subdomain request: fudcon.fedoraproject.org

Kévin Raymond — 2012-05-11T15:32:28

[snip]


No I mean for the infra maintainers.
We need to have a team dedicated, really involved.

[snip]

Re: Subdomain request: fudcon.fedoraproject.org

Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail — 2012-05-11T15:19:32

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Kévin Raymond
<shaiton< at >fedoraproject.org> wrote:

yeah understandable .. though I myself has expertise on Plone as its
part of my dayjob, and i'm contributing there too .. So I can help out
in the setup and some maintenance ..


you mean for ACL? .. Plone permission infrastructure is hierarchical
.. each content in Plone may have its own set of people who are
allowed to add/edit/delete them .. permissions on folders are
inherited by its contents ..

so what we can do here is , use Plone's OpenID support to integrate it
with FAS (or I can write a Plone Auth plugin for directly integrate it
with FAS, but imo, OpenID is simpler) .. for each FUDCon, assign an
owner to it .. everything under the FUDCon folder are fully controlled
by the new owner .. he/she may share the folder to his team ..

Re: Subdomain request: fudcon.fedoraproject.org

Kévin Raymond — 2012-05-11T15:13:40

And the major problem is that FUDCon teams change every years… :(

Re: Subdomain request: fudcon.fedoraproject.org

Kevin Fenzi — 2012-05-11T15:02:41

On Fri, 11 May 2012 21:54:33 +0800
Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail <kagesenshi.87< at >gmail.com> wrote:

...snip...


Not too well off hand. ;) 

We like everything to be managed by our package management system. 

It's possible we could be talked into a setup like above, but it would
require at least the rest of the request for resources process and some
convincing. The thing we 100% wish to avoid with any of these solutions
is "hey, here's this solution" and then people wandering off and
leaving US to maintain something long term without help or expertise. 

Any solution should be long term maintainable. 

kevin
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Re: Subdomain request: fudcon.fedoraproject.org

Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail — 2012-05-11T13:58:08

to try out .. you can run these commands

git clone git< at >github.com:inigoconsulting/collective.conference.git
cd collective.conference
python2.6 bootstrap.py
./bin/buildout -v
# after buildout successfully run
./bin/instance fg # this runs the zope server in foreground ..

the conference tool is installable as an addon ..

Re: Subdomain request: fudcon.fedoraproject.org

Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail — 2012-05-11T13:54:33

Hi Kevin,

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Kévin Raymond
<shaiton< at >fedoraproject.org> wrote:

Plone (http://plone.org) is a CMS written on top of Zope Application
Server .. which is written using Python language.



The database is and object database called ZODB and it is bundled
together with the Zope installation. ZODB default storage is file
based, but optionally, ZODB may use MySQL or PGSQL as its backend
storage, allowing replication/backup through the SQL backend ..

Infra requirement for latest Plone,

* Python2.6 (so should be ok on RHEL/CentOS .. but if its a Fedora
server, will need compat-python26)
* ability to listen to a port
* gcc, g++, python2.6-devel, libxslt-devel, libjpeg-devel, zlib-devel
for buildout to build some python eggs (what is buildout?, covered
below)


There used to be RPM for Fedora, but it was orphaned, and for EPEL,
its outdated.

However,  the best method (and also the recommended method by the
Plone community) of deployment of Plone is using Buildout
(http://www.buildout.org/) , which is a deployment tool which
automatically pulls python eggs from pypi , and install them into a
self-contained directory, avoiding conflicts with system's python
site-package, and also allowing easy updates to latest versions
without being restricted to distribution packages.

I'm not sure how well this will go with the infra team ..


as in translation ?.. Plone itself support multilingual using an addon
called LinguaPlone. LinguaPlone allows each page to have different
language versions.

However my conference addon does not support it yet as I am utilizing
a new content type framework for Plone, of which it have yet to get a
multilingual support (planned, as this new content type framework is
supposed to replace the current one..  but not ready yet) ..

Re: Subdomain request: fudcon.fedoraproject.org

Kévin Raymond — 2012-05-11T13:24:28

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail
<kagesenshi.87< at >gmail.com> wrote:


Hi,

Never heard about Plone before…
What are the infra requirement, on which language is it running, which
database…?
Is there an RPM?
Does it support multi-language?

Re: Subdomain request: fudcon.fedoraproject.org

Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail — 2012-05-11T11:45:42

just mentioning another alternative for a system.

FUDCon KL (http://fedora.my/events/fudconkl2012) uses an addon on
Plone which I develop myself ..
https://github.com/inigoconsulting/collective.conference ..

Its a bit basic right now, and only enough to run FUDCon KL and not as
mature as the drupal systems ... though more features will come as
theres some NGO interested to fund it ..

currently what it can do :

- anonymous registration + session submission
- organize sessions using arshaw's jquery fullcalendar
- session, participant, and agenda listing
- simple session approval
- multiple events per site
- utilize plone's built in document management features

This system is also going to be used by the malaysian team for our
future barcamp style FADs  ..

Perhaps fp.o might be interested to use it to.. but of course, the
community should decide on this .. as I understand that Plone is not
exactly familiar to many people.