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Re: Need suggestions on Debian.cn (Debian China community)

Thomas Goirand — 2012-05-21T11:59:26

You are already in touch with DDs in China. We all read you, and we all
know about what's going on with debian.cn. By the way, our Debian emails
are public, and you can get them all on db.debian.org. I'm sending you
*privately* the list of emails of all active DDs.

Cheers,

Thomas

Re: Need suggestions on Debian.cn (Debian China community)

Joseph Chen — 2012-05-21T03:37:02

HI Stefano,

Thanks your reply!

I understand your concerns! Anyway I would like to keep the ownership
unchanged, as I take it as kind of glory (this explains why I had spent 2+
yrs on brokering it). some day I would donate this domain to the Community,
but it's not now.

I'll get in touch with DD China, and ask for them for updates.

With respect,
-Joseph.c

On 20 May 2012 00:11, Stefano Zacchiroli <leader< at >debian.org> wrote:

Re: Need suggestions on Debian.cn (Debian China community)

Thomas Goirand — 2012-05-19T18:05:33

Hi,

I, and I believe other DDs living in China, would welcome such
initiative as a Chinese portal for Debian.

However, I stand as well on the side of our Debian Project Leader Zack
here: the domain name ownership should be transferred to a Debian
organization. It is my understanding that it could be owned by SPI
(Software for Public Interest, the legal entity behind Debian). Do you
think you can arrange this?

Once this is done, I'd be very happy to help building such site. And if
you need, my company can even host the website for free on an easily
reachable server from China (for example in Singapore), which would
avoid the requirement for an ICP license which would be a pain to get.

Cheers,

Thomas Goirand (zigo)

Re: Need suggestions on Debian.cn (Debian China community)

Stefano Zacchiroli — 2012-05-19T16:11:59

Hi Joseph, many thanks for having done that and for interest in using
"debian.cn" for the Debian community in China.

As Debian Project Leader I had to deal with various aspects of debian.*
2nd level domain ownership. Out of those experiences, I recommend
handing over the domain ownership to a Debian Trusted Organization.
We're happy to trust individuals who care about Debian with domain
ownership, but experience tells us that people might lose interest in
the long run (e.g. years from now). If/when that happens, having an
independent organization trusted by Debian as domain owner would make
things much simpler for us.

Note that I'm talking solely about domain ownership here, not about what
gets done with the domain (see below for that). We can easily arrange
for Debian to own the domain and let you and the local Chinese community
decide what to do with it.

However, I haven't checked the rules for .cn domain ownership myself and
I've no idea if, for instance, a non-Chinese organization can own a .cn
domain.  If you, or anyone else, could look into that, I'd be very
grateful.


We don't have a standard procedure to decide what to do with debian.*
2nd level domains, but in several occasions we have left the choice to
the local Debian community in the country. It is generally preferred if
local Debian Developers are part of the decision, as that guarantees
some link between what gets done with the domain and the Debian Project.

So, what I'd recommend is to contact Chinese Debian Developers and
discuss with them what would be the best use for debian.cn to pursue
Debian interests in China.  There seems to be no debian-devel-chinese
mailing list, unfortunately, but you can look up Debian Developers in
China starting from http://db.debian.org/

Hope this helps,

Need suggestions on Debian.cn (Debian China community)

Joseph Chen — 2012-05-19T15:13:20

To Whom it may concern,

I recently acquired the domain name Debian.cn and am planing to develop it
as Debian China Community.

My current plan is to launch a forum initially, then have some documents
translated to Chinese.
Wondering do you have any suggestion please? If we can make any
arrangements, I would be very pleased to help around to make a wonderful
website.


Some background information about me
I'm a Linux system administrator with 7+ yrs experience, very good at RH
(the most popular distribution for production use in China). Normal in
Debian/Ubuntu.


If you need any further info, please kindly let me know!

Gracias,

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Re: Making mailing list discussions more viable (Re: Making -develdiscussions more viable)

Charles Plessy — 2012-05-17T03:50:30

Le Wed, May 16, 2012 at 07:25:53PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero a écrit :

Hello everybody,

The R posting guide has also intersting guidelines, such as:

  When responding to a very simple question, use the following algorithm:
    - compose your response
    - type 4*runif(1) at the R prompt, and wait this many hours
    - check for new posts to R-help; if no similar suggestion, post your response
      (This is partly in jest, but if you know immediately why it is suggested,
      you probably should use it! Also, it's a nice idea to replace 4 by the number
      of years you have been using R or S-plus.)

  http://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html

Cheers,

Making mailing list discussions more viable (Re: Making -develdiscussions more viable)

Filipus Klutiero — 2012-05-16T23:25:53

Hi Stefano, Russ and everyone,
thanks for your interest in this topic. I entirely agree that we should 
do better in this area. Since the discussion problem is not specific to 
debian-devel, I'm moving this to debian-project.

Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:

There are many more approaches possible, and they can be combined.


  Improving what we write (educating)

The idea here is to help people avoid posting problematic content and/or 
to help people avoid posting content which tends to trigger problematic 
replies.


    General advice

This consists in writing guidelines which should be read by participants 
(for example "don't feed the troll").


    Specific advice

This is about offering customized advice to specific participants in need.


  Improving what we end up reading (filtering)

Here, we assume that problematic content will come and improve the 
discussion system to deal with it.

Approaches can be coercive or advisory. For example, excluding 
unapproved people from participating is coercive. Featuring messages 
from approved people as recommended reads, or warnings for rejected 
messages is advisory (junk tag on spam, Slashdot comments system). The 
ubuntu-devel vs ubuntu-devel-discuss approach is, according to what you 
describe, a hybrid approach (looking just at ubuntu-devel, the approach 
is coercive, but since readers can also access ubuntu-devel-discuss, 
ubuntu-devel could be considered as a list of recommended reads).

Approaches can be heuristic (limits of 1 message per day, for example) 
or customized (for example, excluding a specific message). There can be 
hybrid approaches on that front too (excluding all messages from a 
specific user).
Custom approaches can then be hierarchical (team dedicated to 
moderation) or collaborative (all readers can participate to moderation).

Coercive approaches (in particular) can use strong of soft security. 
Whitelisting people is preventive, while banning/blacklisting people is 
reactive.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

All of these variations combine into a plethora of possible approaches, 
and countless possible combinations of these. Some approaches are 
preferable in some contexts, and some are more expensive to implement.

In terms of education, Debian has some general advice with its mailing 
lists code of conduct: 
http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/index.en.html#codeofconduct
As far as I know, any efforts to provide specific advice are not 
official or systemized.

In terms of filters, the vast majority of our lists are officially open 
(except to spam, of course). In reality, some people are blacklisted 
from all or some mailing lists. So our de facto approach is 
semi-heuristic, coercive and reactive.

Our code of conduct is mostly technical. Giving it some love and 
advertising it better could help, but I doubt this would help as much as 
we'd like. I believe adopting an official form of filtering is the way 
to go to make a real difference.

Some filtering solutions have already been proposed. Anthony Towns 
proposed "posting credits", a heuristic approach which is not quite 
coercive, based on the assumption that posting frequency is inversely 
proportional to utility.
Jurij Smakov proposed "mailvoting", an advisory, customized and 
collaborative approach very similar to one used for Slashdot comments. 
This solution is attractive, but expensive to implement.
Both solutions were discussed in this thread: 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2008/12/msg00089.html


Lars Wirzenius recently posted "Quality of discussion in free software 
development" to his blog: http://blog.liw.fi/posts/quality-of-discussions/

Eroteme and dembanger?!?

Ben Finney — 2012-05-12T22:58:40

Report from our visit to Managua, Nicaragua

Holger Levsen — 2012-05-12T22:54:41

Buenas dias!

The following is a summary of some of my experiences in Managua and tiny
bits of Nicaragua late April / early May 2012. While I spent 14 days there
in total (as private vacation), for the last three days I was joined by
Gunnar Wolf (on DebConf12 funds), to make sure my impressions about the
local team, the status of the preparations and everything were correct.
Our visit also seems to have been very motivating to local team members,
whom I've seen really enthusiastic to welcome a huge Debian crowd for
the first DebConf in Central America in just a few weeks!

At the last DebConf12 IRC meeting I summarized it like this: "in very
short: my two weeks were great, I had a great vacation, met many
members of the localteam, which is way bigger then it seems on irc,
saw and liked UCA (Universidad Centroamericana, the DebConf12 venue),
had zillions of reunions (meetings, see schedule wiki page) and met
many nice people and a very hot & interesting country+capital with great
countryside."

The deadline for sponsored accomodation ends in three days - see
http://debconf12.debconf.org/dates.xhtml - so if you haven't registered
yet, hurry up, DebCamp starts in 49 days! :-)
(After that registration is still possible, but you will need to pay
for your costs yourself.)

Below is a thematically sorted list of impressions and advice written
by Gunnar, Norman, Leo, Felix and myself.

cheers,
Holger

The first impression was a nice barbecue with some local team members where it literally rained Mangos :-) And very
nice warm weather - it was evening after all...

Activities done
You can find an incomplete schedule of our activities on http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf12/PreConVisit -
basically we had many meeting with several UCA people, some people from the government, local free software groups
and individuals, with Navega (an ISP), who will hopefully become our uplink provider, attended FLISOL and also
enjoyed some nature, ie saw an active vulcano from very close, swam in a lagoon, ... and (Holger) learned some more
Spanish too! :-)

Sauna
thermal water sauna
certainly very important here, so high on the list!!1
the only place where it was really cool and refreshing: after you go inside, it's cooler outside for 10min.,
which is when you go inside again... 8-)
20km away in Tipitapa
has two pools as well, filled with hot water. very strange to go inside at first, but actually pretty nice.
Drinks are obviously available, food as well
opens at 5 AM, closes around 8 PM

Localteam rocks:
Up until recently only four people seemed involved, i.e. from watching IRC. We're happy to report that the
localteam consists instead of 15-25 people, of whom roughly 10 are very active (and hopefully soon more are active
on IRC & the lists as well.)
they are very dedicated and have distributed load
Even if some local team members claim they cannot speak English they speak better English than Holger's Spanish.

UCA (Universidad Centroamericana)
wide friendly, lots of shady space outside (some with power plugs), several extra/external food places,
accessible.
very nice auditoriums (excellent audio conditions), good (cool) hacklab, suitable server room with fiber
connections (which we can use) between the buildings
talkroom 1: http://layer-acht.org/fotos/660_Nicaragua_2012/20120424_020_Sm.jpg.18.html
talkroom 2: http://layer-acht.org/fotos/660_Nicaragua_2012/20120428_024_Sm.jpg.68.html
workshoproom: http://layer-acht.org/fotos/660_Nicaragua_2012/20120424_026_Sm.jpg.24.html
hacklab: http://layer-acht.org/fotos/660_Nicaragua_2012/20120424_010_Sm.jpg.8.html
map: http://media.debconf.org/dc12/map/Map_DC12_UCA.png
non smoking campus (just walk 50-100m and you can smoke almost everywhere outside...)
We are in good contact with the University, they are supportive and are looking forward to host us at DebConf12!

Customs, migration, etc.
We both arrived at Managua (MGA) airport.
You have to pay 10 US dollars at the immigration desk to enter the country
you can pay in cordobas (230 cordobas in early May) but they will not have change. (they have change in USD)
they will not take euros (but will escort you to an ATM where you can draw cordobas)
(if you spot some nonsense, you're right ;)
make sure your passport is valid for at least 6 more months after your *entry* date
if you need a visa, get one. if you're unsure about your status, contact visa< at >debconf.org
You have to provide the address for your hotel upon entry, or just write "Managua".
after picking up my backpack I was asked by some official where I was coming from, to which I replied (slightly
tired...) "Amsterdam" at which he looked in disbelief, so I corrected myself to "Panama" (which was the last leg of
my flights indeed), after which he let me pass.
Then my backpacks were scanned like all the others and I went out. There was no comment about my 2 laptops, 1
access point, a video camera and various other hardware. (Which I obviously brought privately, as this is what
computer professionals like me need to survive on a vacation... :)
From leaving the plane until I was outside the airport building it took me probably 23 minutes of which I had to
wait about 10 minutes in the queue to get my passport stamped and to pay those 10 USD.

Note: when you leave the country you will be handed the entry form again... you need to fill it out again, but
enter where you're leaving too... besides that leaving was uneventful.

General advice
if you are not used to direct strong sun light, you will get a sunburn in just a few hours. There are tons of
shadow spaces available in the city and on the campus, just remember to use them or protect yourself against the
sun. Sunblock cream is available in the supermarket in the mall close by.
bring light and wide clothing
light both as in weight as in color - avoid black t-shirts, and suits and jackets are just out of the question
:-)
bring umbrellas & hats
at 8 in the morning the sun is hot like at noon in Spain in summer, then the sun is directly above you for the
whole day until it gets dark in 30 minutes at around 6 in the evening. At night it cools down to 28 degrees Celsius
or so
umbrellas might also be useful because DebConf12 will probably experience a few hours of rain per day. (que
bien!! It cools down a bit.) In July it rains for a few hours every few days, so not much to worry about :)
bring sandals
if you wear socks in shoes, bring plenty of thin socks. and consider bringing some (very) open shoes
if you're a sandals or barefoot person, two pairs of socks are plenty. (one for each flight ;)
air conditioning does exist (basically everywhere) but is not brutal
use deodorants several times a day - you don't want to be the usual smelly foreigner
.ni is the safest country in Central America - still, don't walk around carrying laptops alone in the dark or do
other silly things. Be sensible!
and foremost, don't be afraid, the people are very friendly here, open, social and communicative. So you will
probably get comments and be talked at (in a friendly way). So, yes, you can go out to the streets, in fact, we
recommend you do ;-)
Finally, the local team will provide some maps outlining areas recommended to visit (and areas to be avoided at
night).
and, the civil war is over for roughly 20 years - if you thought otherwise, please go to Wikipedia (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaragua#1990s_and_the_post-Sandinista_era ) and read about the current political
situation and history ;-p
the US Dollar is accepted currency everywhere but the exchange rate will vary
use cordobas for everyday things (buying food, drinks, t-shirts, etc.)
basic English is quite widely understood
I drank lots of tap water for two weeks and still feel fine ;-)
If you can, plan to spend some time before or after DebConf outside Managua. I'm quite sure you will not regret
it: http://layer-acht.org/fotos/660_Nicaragua_2012/20120429_084_Sm.jpg.143.html

Moving around (and coming back to UCA)
Nicaragua does NOT use street names or numbers - You will always explain relative to a well-known point. UCA is
such a point.
Moving around or explaining locations in Nicaragua is hard for all non locals.
DebConf12 takes place at UCA (Universidad Centroamericana) and that area is also where the hotels are located.
There are several universities in Managua, but _only one_ of them is called "UNI", and that's the UNI
(Universidad Nacional de Ingeniería) and not the UCA.
And then the UNI has two buildings in the city (RUPAP and UNI Central), but "UNI Central" is right in front of
the UCA.
To add to this, there are also UNAN (Universidad Nacional Autónoma de Nicaragua) and UNA (Universidad Nacional
Agraria) and other universities. Just remember that you want to go to UCA.

Food at DebConf and in general
The people in charge of finding a catering provider are vegetarians - your needs will surely be covered
Nicaraguan food is carbohydrate-heavy:
Lots of rice, beans, corn in many many many many different presentations
Almost always accompanied by some meat (which you can opt out of easily)
NO spicy food
Food is very seldom spicy, although all kinds of hot peppers are available
Celiacs: there is lots of different corn-based food here.

Other food options in Managua
There are many bars and restaurants and other food places available around UCA but also around Bolonia
(http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=12.14255&mlon=-86.27564&zoom=17&layers=M)
Localteam has mapped many bars already and is in the process of uploading more and creating a DebConf12 specific
map with good places and areas to go. If you want to help with this, please contact felix< at >delattre.de

Pricing examples
a liter of beer in the closest bar to UCA: 44 cordobas, so roughly two dollars. If you don't want to share you
pay 1 USD per 12oz bottle (aka 0.3l)...
a liter of water: 10-12 cordobas (in kiosks)
dinning out: the cheapest is around 60 cordobas, and normal 200 cordobas

Pulperias & shopping centres
Pulperias are local small shops selling everything and which are everywhere.
A huge shopping centre is close to UCA:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=12.12809&mlon=-86.26468&zoom=16&layers=M

Taxis are a bit special...
Taxi prices are somewhat discretionary (not based on taxi meters), and being a foreigner will probably increase
the cost.
Taxi prices also vary according to the time, crossing half of the city should be 40 cordobas by day and 80 by
night. ask for the price in advance else some might try to charge you the same amount but in USD ;)
A taxi from the airport to the venue is $20 using the official taxis of the airport (yellow t-shirt), $10 using
an alternative taxi cooperative in front of the airport (blue t-shirts) or around $5 using the usual taxis (not
recommended for non Spanish-speaking people).
Do not expect any random taxi driver to understand English well - best try to go out with locals or Spanish-
speakers or work with your hands and feet
The localteam is trying to find a trusted cooperative to improve the situation for us.

Pictures at the airport
Starting at http://layer-acht.org/fotos/660_Nicaragua_2012/20120507_020_Sm.jpg.248.html where Felix helpfully
explains that you cannot take hot sauce on a plane.
After that you'll see pics of taxi drivers with different shirt colors.
The claro shop is directly at the exit of the arrival area, if you want to buy some sim cards directly upon
arrival.
The red ATM is according to locals the one with the best rates. You'll find it by walking 30m from arrival to
departure, where you turn left, as if you would leave the country.

And finally, in July when you leave the airport in Managua (_into_ the country), remember what I said in the
beginning: this is the country where you need to go to a sauna to cool down! 8-)

Oh, and it will rain more in July than what we have perceived end of April / beginning of May (which was nothing).
I was told rain then+there means probably 1-3h (in total) per day where it simply rains, it it rains.

As you can see, wheather will be very important at DebConf12! 8-) Make sure you can cope with it, it's (rather
easily) doable and absolutly worth the fun!

We're looking forward to see you there and have a great DebConf together! Hopefully we sweat together while Wheezy
is frozen :-D

email and content?!?

Holger Levsen — 2012-05-12T17:10:57

;-)

BitCoin and Debian?!?

Steffen Möller — 2012-05-12T16:55:44

Re: thank you

green — 2012-05-11T12:43:54

Tinashe Zakaria wrote at 2012-05-10 22:47 -0500:

Yes, Debian is amazing.  Kudos to those who keep it going.

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Re: thank you

Yaroslav Halchenko — 2012-05-11T04:18:56

I just wanted to say that you are very welcome and thank you for this
sporadic expression of the emotions.  I love Debian too -- it is great
that we do not need to compete for our 'target of appreciation'
but rather make it even more lovable together ;-)

Cheers,

On Fri, 11 May 2012, Tinashe Zakaria wrote:

thank you

Tinashe Zakaria — 2012-05-11T03:47:00

Dear Debian Community

It is 5am and i could not sleep for reasons totally unrelated to Debian. My
Debian box is working perfectly well. I just want to say thank you to every
one in the Debian Community for your efforts and hard work. I love Debian.

Cheers

tinashe

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Extra 10% έκπτωση μόνο για εσάς!

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Re: [Draft] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project

Steffen Möller — 2012-05-07T08:18:28

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I agree that this should go out. Just, we have "our community" twice in the text. <pun>Any linguistic expertise with us we could possibly welcome?</pun> Anyway, it sounds strange enough to me to suggest substituting the first occurrence with just "us". And, since we also want new contributors to also interact constructively between themselves, and since to me it is somewhat redundant in the first place, I would even feel inclined to remove the "with our community". Second paragraph untouched.

Steffen

Debian Maintainers Keyring changes

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