gmane.linux.debian.devel.general

Re: Game servers in /usr/games or /usr/sbin

Ben Hutchings — 2008-12-02T01:17:56

[...] This is just as true for many other network servers, but by convention they live in /usr/sbin. Ben.

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

Sven Arvidsson — 2008-12-02T00:39:11

Fixing this is on the roadmap[0] for Evince 2.26, but I don't know if anyone is really working on it. In the upstream bug report[1], it's described as "quite hard to fix". 0. http://live.gnome.org/Evince/Roadmap 1. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=303365

Re: Bug#507451: ITP: iptux -- IP Messenger client for Linux

LI Daobing (李道兵 — 2008-12-02T00:28:22

Hello, On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:50 AM, Ron Johnson cox.net> wrote: 1. it has a friendly interface 2. it can auto detect all clients in the intranet 3. it does not need a center server. 4. it can add internet client by IP 5. the file transfer speed is very fast (MSN, gtalk only has several KB/s here)

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

Michael Banck — 2008-12-02T00:14:02

Were you looking for http://svn.gnome.org? Michael

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

Marco d'Itri — 2008-12-02T00:01:08

How? The user interface only allows me to zoom up to 400%.

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

Norbert Preining — 2008-12-01T23:24:29

Right, and that is a pain. A friend has programmed a Windows version using fltk, texlua (lua interpreter with TeX bindings) and we ship it in TeX Live, but it works only on Windows (till now). The point is that it can zoom in arbitrarily, I mean *really* deep, examining the single curves of letters ... That would be something I *really* would like to have. Best wishes Norbert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Norbert Preining logic.at> Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer debian.org> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ABERBEEG (vb.) Of amateur actors, to adopt a Mexican accent when called upon to play any variety of foreigner (except Pakistanis - from whom a Welsh accent is considered sufficient). --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff

Re: Game servers in /usr/games or /usr/sbin

Goswin von Brederlow — 2008-12-01T23:08:02

Why should the server be in roots path? Games should never be run as root. If the server is to be started by a user then /usr/games. Otherwise I would go for /usr/lib/package/. MfG Goswin

Re: qmail and related packages in NEW

Bernd Eckenfels — 2008-12-01T22:48:21

Well, do you think the size of ipv4 addresses ever will change? :) Gruss Bernd

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

Jonathan McDowell — 2008-12-01T22:19:42

That wasn't the point I was trying to make; I was asking a genuine question about the status of evince (and would have been delighted to have been pointed at a repo with experimental code I could try out). J.

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

Jean-Christophe Dubacq — 2008-12-01T21:41:01

Marco d'Itri a écrit : That would be because Evince (as does xpdf, and probably others) render the whole file, even though the display window shows only a small part of the file. I often zoom at 800%, sometimes 1600%, on a A0 map.

Re: Hi all, mentor searching

Sandro Tosi — 2008-12-01T21:31:54

Hello Alessandro, such an email, would have been better addressed to debian mentors mailing list (CCed). On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 22:23, Alessandro Galli gmail.com> wrote: First of all, let me thank you for your interest in Debian. Debian packages need to respect many rules, all codified in Debian Policy, Developers Reference and New Maintainers Guide, that we suppose you've already read (if not, please do it as soon as you can). Once you believe you respect all those rules, please upload the proposed package to mentors.debian.net (instruction on that site) and the send an RFS (Request For Sponsors, template on mentors.d.n) to debian-mentors< at >lists.debian.org. Feel free to ask in case of any doubt. Regards,

Hi all, mentor searching

Alessandro Galli — 2008-12-01T21:23:47

Hi. I'm Alessandro Galli, an italian engeneer with the passion for open source. I'm cofounder of MontelLUG. Some time ago I've written a program to help sysadmin administering their servers. It's a wrapper for vnc and rdesktop: it's called krd and hosted in sourceforge. I've already made deb packages: there is someone that can help me adding this program in the debian repositories? Tks. Bye!

Re: Why is acroread so popular?

Scott Kitterman — 2008-12-01T21:07:18

This is why it was removed from Ubuntu several releases ago. Scott K

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

Norbert Preining — 2008-12-01T19:37:33

Agreed, it is an overloaded something, unfortunately still xpdf is the only decent replacement, but it lacks soooo many things. To the guy who was rejecting annotations, please come back to real world, often I get back my articles from the publisher as pdf with annotations, and I have to add the changes with annotations. Umpf yes, that *is* real world. Still I have to have acroread hanging around, without it it is still in many cases a no-go. Ciao Norbert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Norbert Preining logic.at> Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer debian.org> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GRIMMET (n.) A small bush from which cartoon characters dangle over the edge of a cliff. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

Marco d'Itri — 2008-12-01T19:34:48

Yes. Nowadays it's better indeed: after freezing the UI for 30 seconds while the CPU spins at full speed and reaching a RSS of 150 MB I can scroll over the whole document without other delays, which is almost acceptable for my purpose. Too bad it does not support a zoom level over 400%.

Re: qmail and related packages in NEW

Florian Weimer — 2008-12-01T19:27:42

* Gerrit Pape: If the MTA package is qmail-run, it must depend on fastforward, in order to comply with Policy 11.6 (a Recommends: is not sufficient, IMHO). Using a homegrown init system by default seems in conflict with Policy 9.3, in particular 9.3.2. I guess qmail-run is fine for a package which does not integrate well with the standard Debian init system. However, my comment in response to Jörg's email was mainly intended to put the security team's response into perspective (given that arguments based on software security concerns are often used to back quite different goals). I did not want to focus on specific rejection reasons per se.

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

Florian Weimer — 2008-12-01T19:10:36

* Jonathan McDowell: No one doubts that nothing is as feature-laden as Adobe Reader. Evince probably lacks video, Flash and Javascript support as well.

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

Andreas Metzler — 2008-12-01T19:05:39

Evince. (Since lenny, etch's version is too old.) cu andreas

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

Jonathan McDowell — 2008-12-01T18:21:06

Did evince ever get support for PDF annotations? I found myself having to install Adobe Reader to try and get shared document review working, which seems to use the annotation with XML files feature. J.

Re: Bug#507451: ITP: iptux -- IP Messenger client for Linux

Ron Johnson — 2008-12-01T18:50:56

Thanks. But still: How does this relate to IM, or to older protocols like "talk"? (The Google Translation of the URL doesn't make much sense.)

Re: qmail and related packages in NEW

Gerrit Pape — 2008-12-01T18:29:09

Hi, surely new information was made available, see my reply to the rejection mail http://lists.debian.org/debian-wnpp/2008/09/msg00055.html Additionally to addressing technical issues, I took the advise from ftpmasters and reconsidered re-uploading the packages. After two months, and receiving several mails from users asking about the progress of the inclusion into Debian main after qmail was placed into the public domain, I re-read some public mails like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=457318#35 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=457318#50 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=457318#111 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=457318#121 http://lists.debian.org/debian-wnpp/2008/03/msg00149.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-publicity/2008/07/msg00003.html This made me think there're people interested in having the packages included, so here we are. wrote above leads to nowhere, so I refrained from doing so and talked about opinions. To me it's clear that upstream isn't dead, I see signs of him doing development on dnscurve for example. Also qmail has security support, not only that, it has a security guarantee. And it doesn't need a whole set of patches, I know that, I use my packages since years. Finally, the source package is netqmail, which is created by a team of valuable qmail contributors, maintained and supported by them. This information is included in debian/copyright and the README file. Regards, Gerrit.