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    <title>Re: 3GPP RTP header extension</title>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;The subject was also on the agenda of 3GPP CT4 at last meeting.

It may be noted that RFC 5285 is special with regards to the definition of two capabilities of
a) IP data path (RTP header extension; clause 4/RFC 5285) and
b) IP signaling path (SDP signalling; ; clauses 5&amp;amp;6/RFC 5285)
in a single RFC. Both capabilities could be also defined in separated RFCs.

The tight coupling of both capabilities in a single RFC may be interpreted in the following: the network should not forward RTP packets with extended headers in case of missing SDP "a=extmap:" signalling or/and failed SDP O/A.

E.g., an interim RTP translator (RTP transport translator or RTP media translator) would block RTP packets with extension headers (dependent on above SDP O/A ...).

Conclusion:
there seems to be some implicit semantics in RFC 5285 in my understanding.

Regards,
Albrecht


From: mmusic-bounces&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;ietf.org [mailto:mmusic-bounces&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;ietf.org] On Behalf Of Christer Holmberg
Sent: Freitag, 24. Mai 2013 12:06
To: mmusic&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;ietf.org
Subject: [MMUSIC] 3GPP RTP header extension

Hi,

In the virtual interim meeting yesterday, I was requested to look into the RTP header extension(s) defined by 3GPP.

3GPP SA4 has defined a header extension for "Coordination of Video Orientation" purpose (may be of interest for CLUE btw, but that's a separate story). The length of the extension is 1 byte.

For more information, see section 7.4.5 of 3GPP TS 24.114 :)

http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/26_series/26.114/26114-c10.zip

Regards,

Christer
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science


We are researchers from different parts of the world and conducted a study on  
the world’s biggest bogus computer science conference WORLDCOMP 
( http://sites.google.com/site/worlddump1 ) organized by Prof. Hamid Arabnia 
from University of Georgia, USA.


We submitted a fake paper to WORLDCOMP 2011 and again (the same paper 
with a modified title) to WORLDCOMP 2012. This paper had numerous 
fundamental mistakes. Sample statements from that paper include: 

(1). Binary logic is fuzzy logic and vice versa
(2). Pascal developed fuzzy logic
(3). Object oriented languages do not exhibit any polymorphism or inheritance
(4). TCP and IP are synonyms and are part of OSI model 
(5). Distributed systems deal with only one computer
(6). Laptop is an example for a super computer
(7). Operating system is an example for computer hardware


Also, our paper did not express any conceptual meaning.  However, it 
was accepted both the times without any modifications (and without 
any reviews) and we were invited to submit the final paper and a 
payment of $500+ fee to present the paper. We decided to use the 
fee for better purposes than making Prof. Hamid Arabnia (Chairman 
of WORLDCOMP) rich. After that, we received few reminders from 
WORLDCOMP to pay the fee but we never responded. 


We MUST say that you should look at the above website if you have any thoughts 
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about WORLDCOMP. 


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to other (i.e., junk or non-technical) at any time. Better not to have a paper than 
having it in WORLDCOMP and spoil the resume and peace of mind forever!


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using University of Georgia mask, for Prof. Hamid Arabnia. He is throwing 
out a small chunk of that money (around 20 dollars per paper published 
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who publicizes WORLDCOMP and also defends it at various forums, using 
fake/anonymous names. The puppet uses fake names and defames other conferences
to divert traffic to WORLDCOMP. He also makes anonymous phone calls and tries to 
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That is, the puppet does all his best to get a maximum number of papers published 
at WORLDCOMP to get more money into his (and Prof. Hamid Arabnia’s) pockets. 


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refused to provide the venue for WORLDCOMP’13 because of the fears of their image 
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We are shocked with Prof. Hamid Arabnia and his puppet’s activities 
http://worldcomp-fake-bogus.blogspot.com   Search Google using the 
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    <title>2013-06 Meeting (H.248.TLS): DTLS vs TLS?</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.megaco/6211</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Ref.: H.248.TLS "Living list related to DTLS and DTLS-SRTP"

FYI, we did further evaluate H.248-controlled DTLS security sesssions, coming to the preliminary conclusion that there are not any significant differences between TLS and DTLS control, FROM MGC perspective ("a result, which is also not really surprising due to the tight alignment of DTLS with TLS"). 

We are therefore still in favour of option #2 (see H.248.TLS, Appendix IV.3), - due to the additional DTLS-SRTP topic.
The separate H.248.DTLS Rec would then mainly provide the following information:
a) applicability statements of H.248 TLS packages as well for DTLS
b) DTLS-SRTP 
c) MG bearer plane differences of DTLS to TLS

Did anyone else already study the DTLS subject too?

Albrecht
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    <title>2013-06 Meeting: New wildcard proposal "~"</title>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Dear All!
We'd like to early point out to one proposal for coming meeting, concerning the discussion of a new (SDP limited) H.248 wildcard method.
The draft contributions are uploaded to the Exchange directory:

http://ifa.itu.int/t/2013/sg16/exchange/wp1/q03/2013-06%20Meeting/Pre-meetingDiscussions/ 
ifa.itu.int - /t/2013/sg16/exchange/wp1/q03/2013-06 Meeting/Pre-meetingDiscussions/

[To Parent Directory]

 4/15/2013  5:12 PM        37066 AVD-4370_H.248.39_ExtendedSDPWildcarding_Ed02.docx
 4/15/2013  5:12 PM        33002 AVD-4371_H.248.39_fingerprint_Ed02.docx

AVD-4370 motivates and defines the wildcard.
AVD-4171 provides a first example use case.

We've identified so far at least two application areas:

a) NAT-T
e.g., a=ssrc:~ cname:~

b) TLS and DTLS basec Transport security:
e.g., a=fingerprint:~ ~

Early feedback would be appreciated,
Albrecht


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    <title>Re: H.248 Mode property vs. signals/events</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.megaco/6209</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hello Mark,

If there's no signal and the streammode is RecvOnly/Inactive then I 
agree no packets should be sent.

Regards, Christian

On 27/03/2013 8:31 PM, Mark Overton wrote:
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    <title>Re: H.248 Mode property vs. signals/events</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.megaco/6208</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Christian, Albrecht,

I've been thinking about this some more and have a question about the implementation of stream mode for RTP terminations in particular.

We've established so far that signals/events are unaffected by Mode: in my original example, if the Mode is RecvOnly and an external Signal is requested (e.g. a tone), it should be played; so we're sending RTP packets containing the tone waveform.

So what about RecvOnly/Inactive RTP terminations where there's no Signal requested? Should I be sending RTP packets (assuming I've a remote descriptor) or not? (And if I should, what do they contain?) Per my original trail, I'd assumed no packets should be sent...

Thanks,

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: megaco-bounces&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;ietf.org] On Behalf Of Christian Groves
Sent: 13 March 2013 10:14
To: Deepak Bissa
Cc: megaco&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Megaco] H.248 Mode property vs. signals/events

Hello Deepak,

The spec says "Signals are unaffected by mode". This text has been there since 1999. I decided to have a look through the mail archives to see if it had been discussed previously. It had, in the context of TDM termination.
("Re: LocalControl Descriptor" 25/04/2000)[Attached].
"        1) Since the MG2 TDM termination mode is inactive, does a ct 
signal get send to CO?
      The answer should be yes since "Signals and Events are not affected by mode.".

The MGC is the master, so if it sets the mode to "Inactive" and it doesn't want a tone or announcement played out of the MG it shouldn't send the signal.

Regards, Christian

On 7/03/2013 5:00 PM, Deepak Bissa wrote:
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    <title>Re: H.248 Mode property vs. signals/events</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.megaco/6207</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hello Deepak,

The spec says "Signals are unaffected by mode". This text has been there 
since 1999. I decided to have a look through the mail archives to see if 
it had been discussed previously. It had, in the context of TDM termination.
("Re: LocalControl Descriptor" 25/04/2000)[Attached].
"        1) Since the MG2 TDM termination mode is inactive, does a ct 
signal get send to CO?
      The answer should be yes since "Signals and Events are not 
affected by mode.".

The MGC is the master, so if it sets the mode to "Inactive" and it 
doesn't want a tone or announcement played out of the MG it shouldn't 
send the signal.

Regards, Christian

On 7/03/2013 5:00 PM, Deepak Bissa wrote:

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    <title>Re: Usage of silence suppression in Local ConnectionOptions</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.megaco/6206</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hello Sumant,

This is a list for Megaco/H.248 not MGCP.

Regards, Christian

On 7/03/2013 4:55 PM, Sumant Gupta wrote:
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    <title>Re: H.248 Mode property vs. signals/events</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.megaco/6205</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hello Christian,

The signal is played via media stream in this case and is dependent on local/remote descriptor.
The stream mode should decide the flow of media stream in my view. The rules on media stream should apply here even if a signal is played via media stream.
What if the stream mode is set as Inactive? Will the signal will still be played?


Regards,
Deepak Bissa


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From: megaco-bounces&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;ietf.org] On Behalf Of Christian Groves
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:12 AM
To: megaco&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Megaco] H.248 Mode property vs. signals/events

Hello Mark,

The main sentence here is from 7.1.7 "signals and events are not affected by the mode property". 6.1.1 just contrasts the behaviour of stream mode from the topology descriptor.

Even if Streammode = recv is set, if a signal is applied on a Termination/Stream in the outgoing direction it will be sent (the tone will get played). Of course if you haven't set up media in the local/remote descriptor then nothing will get sent.

Regards, Christian

On 5/03/2013 10:00 PM, Mark Overton wrote:

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    <title>Usage of silence suppression in Local Connection Options</title>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

Silence suppresion can be turned "on" via the "s:on" parameter in
Local connection options specified by Call Agent in MGCP.
Example :

CRCX 1006 aaln/1&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;rx.com MGCP 1.0 NCS 1.0
C: 0
L: p:20, a:PCMU, s:on, sc-rtp:60/50, sc-rtcp:80/70
M: recvonly
X: 0123456789AC
R: hu

1. In 200 Ok of this above request how does client specify that it
supports silence suppresion?

2. During silence period the client would send the comfort noise
packts(CN,paylaod 13) to the remote party.
How does remote party decode the CN(comfort noise) packets?

Looking forward for some help in this issue.

Regards
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    <title>Re: H.248 Mode property vs. signals/events</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.megaco/6203</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hello Mark,

The main sentence here is from 7.1.7 "signals and events are not 
affected by the mode property". 6.1.1 just contrasts the behaviour of 
stream mode from the topology descriptor.

Even if Streammode = recv is set, if a signal is applied on a 
Termination/Stream in the outgoing direction it will be sent (the tone 
will get played). Of course if you haven't set up media in the 
local/remote descriptor then nothing will get sent.

Regards, Christian

On 5/03/2013 10:00 PM, Mark Overton wrote:
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    <title>Re: H.248 Mode property vs. signals/events</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.megaco/6202</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hello Mark,

H.248.1, clause 6: model aspects
H.248.1, clause 7: protocol syntax &amp;amp; semantics

Thus, clause 7.1.7 takes precedence over clause 6.1.1 in my understanding.
If you want to refer topology descriptor, then clause 7.1.18 ("would consider 6.1.1 as a high-level model").

Further: correct MG behaviour arround StreamMode was again frequently discussed in the last two study periods (also in the context of loopback, H.248.85), leading to a number of IG updates.
Looks like that your are not refering the latest text of H.248.1 ("e.g. text about statistics was added, which is missing in your quote").

Latest text of H.248.1: a new release had to be prepared (at 2013-01 meeting) with the end of the 2009-2012 period, which contains all consolidated IG items.
Status: http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/aap/AAPRecDetails.aspx?AAPSeqNo=2714
Thus, not yet published due to ongoing AAP, but you may use the LC text (http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/aap/dologin_aap.asp?id=T0102000A9A0701MSWE.docx&amp;amp;group=16 ).

You may note that also clarifications to events (7.1.9) and signals (7.1.11) were added.

Further like to add following StreamMode model, which we've used in H.248 clarifications. The model should be correct and consistent with H.248.1:

H.248 StreamMode model:
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I'm not sure whether your physical model ("real resource components like DSP") is consistent with the H.248 model, hm? At least not with above StreamMode model.

Regards,
Albrecht

PS
I've to note that above StreamMode model was not added to H.248.1, rather only pure textual clarifications as IG items ...


From: megaco-bounces&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mark Overton
Sent: Dienstag, 5. März 2013 12:01
To: megaco&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;ietf.org
Subject: [Megaco] H.248 Mode property vs. signals/events

Hi,

Can someone please help me understand the interaction between the H.248 Mode property and Signals/Events? We're testing MGC-MG interop, and aren't quite agreeing over a Modify request for a termination with a single stream that

·         sets the Mode to RecvOnly

·         plays an external tone.

The key bits of H.248.1 text up for discussion seem to be:

·         from 7.1.7:

The allowed values for the Mode Property are "SendOnly", "RecvOnly", "SendRecv", "Inactive"
and "LoopBack". "SendOnly", "RecvOnly" and "LoopBack" are with respect to the exterior of the
context, so that, for example, a stream set to mode = "SendOnly" does not pass received media into
the context. When a stream is set to "LoopBack" on a termination, media received (Local
Descriptor) on the termination will be looped back to the sending side (Remote Descriptor) of the
termination and no media is passed between that termination and other terminations in the context.
The looped back media shall be sent according to the Remote Descriptor. The default value for the
Mode Property is "Inactive". Signals and events are not affected by the Mode Property. The
LocalControl Mode Property takes precedence over any mode specified in the Local and Remote
Descriptors.


·         From 6.1.1:

* The Topology Descriptor (who hears/sees whom).
The topology of a context describes the flow of media between the terminations within a
context. In contrast, the Mode Property of a termination ("SendOnly"/"RecvOnly"/...)
describes the flow of the media at the egress/ingress of the media gateway.

So I think we've both interpreted the Mode property differently:

·         One view treats the Mode property as absolute: that is, RecvOnly means absolutely no media is sent out to this termination, SendOnly means any and all received media is absolutely ignored. Setting the mode doesn't affect the Signals and Events that are programmed on a given termination, neither does it affect any subsequent programming - but it can and does affect the result of the programming. So in this case a Mode of RecvOnly combined with an external tone means the tone gets played in the DSP but absolutely no media is sent out to that termination.

Another way to explain our implementation is in this picture:
[MG egress/ingress]&amp;lt;--- flow affected by Mode property ---&amp;gt;[termination including DSP for signals/events]&amp;lt;--- flow affected by Topology descriptor ---&amp;gt;[context media mixpoint]


·         The other (that expects to see the tone played to the termination) effectively says that the Mode property affects the flow of media between the termination and the context media mixpoint:
[MG egress/ingress]&amp;lt;------&amp;gt;[termination including DSP for signals/events]&amp;lt;--- flow affected by Mode and Topology ---&amp;gt;[context media mixpoint]

What's the right answer here? The first view seems to go against the text from 7.1.7, and the second view seems to go against that from 6.1.1.

Please don't hesitate to get back to me if any of this is unclear. Many thanks in advance,

Mark

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    <title>H.248 Mode property vs. signals/events</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.megaco/6201</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

Can someone please help me understand the interaction between the H.248 Mode property and Signals/Events? We're testing MGC-MG interop, and aren't quite agreeing over a Modify request for a termination with a single stream that

*         sets the Mode to RecvOnly

*         plays an external tone.

The key bits of H.248.1 text up for discussion seem to be:

*         from 7.1.7:

The allowed values for the Mode Property are "SendOnly", "RecvOnly", "SendRecv", "Inactive"
and "LoopBack". "SendOnly", "RecvOnly" and "LoopBack" are with respect to the exterior of the
context, so that, for example, a stream set to mode = "SendOnly" does not pass received media into
the context. When a stream is set to "LoopBack" on a termination, media received (Local
Descriptor) on the termination will be looped back to the sending side (Remote Descriptor) of the
termination and no media is passed between that termination and other terminations in the context.
The looped back media shall be sent according to the Remote Descriptor. The default value for the
Mode Property is "Inactive". Signals and events are not affected by the Mode Property. The
LocalControl Mode Property takes precedence over any mode specified in the Local and Remote
Descriptors.


*         From 6.1.1:

* The Topology Descriptor (who hears/sees whom).
The topology of a context describes the flow of media between the terminations within a
context. In contrast, the Mode Property of a termination ("SendOnly"/"RecvOnly"/...)
describes the flow of the media at the egress/ingress of the media gateway.

So I think we've both interpreted the Mode property differently:

*         One view treats the Mode property as absolute: that is, RecvOnly means absolutely no media is sent out to this termination, SendOnly means any and all received media is absolutely ignored. Setting the mode doesn't affect the Signals and Events that are programmed on a given termination, neither does it affect any subsequent programming - but it can and does affect the result of the programming. So in this case a Mode of RecvOnly combined with an external tone means the tone gets played in the DSP but absolutely no media is sent out to that termination.

Another way to explain our implementation is in this picture:
[MG egress/ingress]&amp;lt;--- flow affected by Mode property ---&amp;gt;[termination including DSP for signals/events]&amp;lt;--- flow affected by Topology descriptor ---&amp;gt;[context media mixpoint]


*         The other (that expects to see the tone played to the termination) effectively says that the Mode property affects the flow of media between the termination and the context media mixpoint:
[MG egress/ingress]&amp;lt;------&amp;gt;[termination including DSP for signals/events]&amp;lt;--- flow affected by Mode and Topology ---&amp;gt;[context media mixpoint]

What's the right answer here? The first view seems to go against the text from 7.1.7, and the second view seems to go against that from 6.1.1.

Please don't hesitate to get back to me if any of this is unclear. Many thanks in advance,

Mark

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    <title>Re: Draft H.248.80; FW: [MMUSIC] RFC 6871 on Session Description Protocol (SDP) Media Capabilities Negotiation</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.megaco/6200</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hello Albrecht,

Yes I saw this was finalised. Good to be able to finalise H.248.80.

I see also draft-westerlund-avtcore-rtp-topologies-update-02.txt has 
been updated to better describe middlebox/translator topologies that 
would be applicable for H.248.RTPTOPO.

Regards, Christian

On 28/02/2013 7:09 PM, Schwarz, Albrecht (Albrecht) wrote:
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    <title>Draft H.248.80; FW: [MMUSIC] RFC 6871 on Session Description Protocol (SDP) Media Capabilities Negotiation</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.megaco/6199</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hello Chrisitian,
guess you noted as well the publication of RFC 6871, which allows to finalize draft H.248.80.
Regards,
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Subject: [MMUSIC] RFC 6871 on Session Description Protocol (SDP) Media Capabilities Negotiation


A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.

        
        RFC 6871

        Title:      Session Description Protocol (SDP) Media 
                    Capabilities Negotiation 
        Author:     R. Gilman, R. Even,
                    F. Andreasen
        Status:     Standards Track
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       February 2013
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        Pages:      55
        Characters: 124829
        Updates:    RFC5939

        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-media-capabilities-17.txt

        URL:        http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6871.txt

Session Description Protocol (SDP) capability negotiation provides a general framework for indicating and negotiating capabilities in SDP.
The base framework defines only capabilities for negotiating transport protocols and attributes.  This documents extends the framework by defining media capabilities that can be used to negotiate media types and their associated parameters.

This document updates the IANA Considerations of RFC 5939.

This document is a product of the Multiparty Multimedia Session Control Working Group of the IETF.

This is now a Proposed Standard.

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    <title>Re: H.248.TCP &amp; H.248.TLS related contributions</title>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;fyi, we've prepared an overview on the structure and relations between the submitted contributions:

ftp://ifa.itu.int/t/2009/sg16/exchange/wp2/q03/Structure_of_Contributions_H.248.TCP_and_H.248.TLS_Ed01.pdf

Primary scope at this meeting is to fix the package design baselines for TCP and TLS.
The evaluation and discussion of principles, general concepts and control methods is subject of the "1) ..." indicated contributions.

-Albrecht


From: megaco-bounces&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;ietf.org] On Behalf Of Schwarz, Albrecht (Albrecht)
Sent: Donnerstag, 13. Dezember 2012 11:13
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Subject: [Megaco] H.248.TCP &amp;amp; H.248.TLS related contributions

fyi, we've already uploaded a couple of TCP and TLS related contributions,
see http://www.itu.int/md/T13-SG16-130114-C/en

The high level order is C-2, 3, 4, 43 and the overviews C-13 (TCP) and C-14 (TLS).

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    <title>Re: Creation new TID in MGC</title>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;You should send a servicechange an after the reply a modify enabling events and tones over the line, unles you are using profiles to handle this.

Regards

RB - Sent from my iPhone

El 12/26/2012, a las 17:50, "ISIK, NECAT (NECAT)" &amp;lt;necat.isik&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;alcatel-lucent.com&amp;lt;mailto:necat.isik&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;alcatel-lucent.com&amp;gt;&amp;gt; escribió:

Hi all,
When MG has some terminations in out of service state, which are not registered in MGC, MG is sending “service change” message to MGC for each TID’s as seen;

MEGACO/1 [10.10.10.10] Transaction=31582{Context=-{ServiceChange=P25{Services{Method=Restart,Reason="900 Service Restored",20121217T08144897}}}}

Because of not created termination ID’s MGC returns error message, like the one below;

!/1 [100.100.100.100]:2944 P=31582{C=-{SC=P25{ER=430{"Unknown TrmID"}}}}

It is clear. I wonder that;

What message must be sent from MGC to MG just after creating new termination at MGC?
Must it be “service change” message to put TID in service state, or
“modify” message to connect TID to null context as seen below;

!/1 [100.100.100.100]:2944 T=456731602{C=-{MF=P25{E=2600571907{al/*},SG{}}}}

If the service change message is true, what type of mesage format will be sent?

Best Regards,
M. NECAT ISIK

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    <title>Creation new TID in MGC</title>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi all,
When MG has some terminations in out of service state, which are not registered in MGC, MG is sending "service change" message to MGC for each TID's as seen;

MEGACO/1 [10.10.10.10] Transaction=31582{Context=-{ServiceChange=P25{Services{Method=Restart,Reason="900 Service Restored",20121217T08144897}}}}

Because of not created termination ID's MGC returns error message, like the one below;

!/1 [100.100.100.100]:2944 P=31582{C=-{SC=P25{ER=430{"Unknown TrmID"}}}}

It is clear. I wonder that;

What message must be sent from MGC to MG just after creating new termination at MGC?
Must it be "service change" message to put TID in service state, or
"modify" message to connect TID to null context as seen below;

!/1 [100.100.100.100]:2944 T=456731602{C=-{MF=P25{E=2600571907{al/*},SG{}}}}

If the service change message is true, what type of mesage format will be sent?

Best Regards,
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    <title>H.248.TCP &amp; H.248.TLS related contributions</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.megaco/6194</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;fyi, we've already uploaded a couple of TCP and TLS related contributions,
see http://www.itu.int/md/T13-SG16-130114-C/en

The high level order is C-2, 3, 4, 43 and the overviews C-13 (TCP) and C-14 (TLS).

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    <title>Re: Megaco/Mgcp  Digitmap</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.megaco/6193</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;List megaco&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;ietf.org&amp;lt;mailto:megaco&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;ietf.org&amp;gt; is for H.248/MEGACO, but not for MGCP.
I'm not aware of any email exploder for MGCP, guess you got to google ...


From: megaco-bounces&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;ietf.org] On Behalf Of Abhijit Dutta
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Hi,

Sorry for using the forum for the following help, however since its urgent and am strapped for time, I thought of posting it.


1.       Need to implement and integrate MGCP digitmap - is there any open source available for it which can be used.

2.       Is there any other references apart from RFC, form where I can get more details.

~Thanx
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    <title>Megaco/Mgcp  Digitmap</title>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

Sorry for using the forum for the following help, however since its urgent and am strapped for time, I thought of posting it.


1.       Need to implement and integrate MGCP digitmap - is there any open source available for it which can be used.

2.       Is there any other references apart from RFC, form where I can get more details.

~Thanx
Abhijit
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