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125th anniversary of a state

Jane Kelsey — 2008-12-02T01:00:46

I have read the SCM, but I am still unsure what is the correct application for headings to reflect this event. Kansas |x Anniversaries, etc. What else might be correct? Ideas welcomed. Thanks. Jane

Re: Possible subject headings for a North Korean documentary

Tina Gunther — 2008-12-01T22:03:59

Perhaps: Landscape architecture--Korea (North) Tina Gunther public.gmane.org> Cataloging Technician Biola University Library La Mirada CA USA *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright ***********************************************************************

Re: Possible subject headings for a North Korean documentary

Tom Sanders — 2008-12-01T21:59:54

Well, the books about Lady Bird Johnson seem to use "Environmental protection--United States" "Johnson, Lady Bird, 1912-2007--Views on environmental protection" and "Roadside improvement--United States." I'm not really happy with any of these. And "Scenic beauty" is just an xref to "Landscape". I suspect just using the name subdivided by "Influence" would be too generic? Thomas R. Sanders Cataloging Dept. Auburn University Libraries 231 Mell St. Auburn, AL 36849-5606 sandetr-7KF8pGZKO2M3uPMLIKxrzw< at >public.gmane.org *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright ***********************************************************************

Re: Possible subject headings for a North Korean documentary

Cookson, Ms. Melissa — 2008-12-01T21:49:38

Whoops, forgot to add that there's a record for the videocassette in WorldCat (#74735423) with one other subject heading I haven't mentioned, Political leadership--Korea (North). It seems like there should be something else that could be added, however. Melissa Cookson Catalog Librarian Tarleton State University -----Original Message----- From: Cookson, Ms. Melissa Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 3:40 PM To: 'AUTOCAT' Subject: Possible subject headings for a North Korean documentary I'm currently cataloging the North Korean documentary _Beauty is added to the country under the great general's leadership_. I'm having problems coming up with good subject headings for it and wanted to see what others might come up with. The documentary is about Kim Jong-Il and what he's done to beautify the North Korean landscape and inspire its beautification (land adjustment, identifying and laying out scenic places, epigraphs praising him inscribed into mountainsides, etc.). I've got genre headings for the documentary and propaganda aspects of the film, as well as an access pt. for Kim Jong-Il. I'm stumped on what to do about the beautification aspect, however. "Beautification of the landscape" has a see reference to "Landscape protection," which doesn't really apply. I haven't yet been able to find a work on a similar topic in WorldCat. Melissa Cookson Catalog Librarian Tarleton State University *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright ***********************************************************************

Possible subject headings for a North Korean documentary

Cookson, Ms. Melissa — 2008-12-01T21:39:41

I'm currently cataloging the North Korean documentary _Beauty is added to the country under the great general's leadership_. I'm having problems coming up with good subject headings for it and wanted to see what others might come up with. The documentary is about Kim Jong-Il and what he's done to beautify the North Korean landscape and inspire its beautification (land adjustment, identifying and laying out scenic places, epigraphs praising him inscribed into mountainsides, etc.). I've got genre headings for the documentary and propaganda aspects of the film, as well as an access pt. for Kim Jong-Il. I'm stumped on what to do about the beautification aspect, however. "Beautification of the landscape" has a see reference to "Landscape protection," which doesn't really apply. I haven't yet been able to find a work on a similar topic in WorldCat. Melissa Cookson Catalog Librarian Tarleton State University *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright ***********************************************************************

Help with Peruvian Name

Laurence S. Creider — 2008-12-01T21:09:41

Folks, I am cataloging a book published in Lima in 1951 whose 245 field reads: Peruvian Creole cookery / ǂc by Ña Conce ; drawings by Chama. There is an LCCN record for this in OCLC, and the record gives the 100 field as Conce with a first indicator of 1. the OCLC no. is 3340906, and the LCCN is 52023924. The prefaces (the book is parallel English/Spanish) are signed ~Na Conce. After checking on the web and with local faculty, I have not been able to find out why the ~Na was dropped from the name in the LC record. So I am curious about how to establish the heading so that it might be findable. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks,

Petition for OCLC to Collaboratively Re-write Policy for Use and Transfer of WorldCat Records

Sanchez, Elaine R — 2008-12-01T21:00:34

Hello. There is now an online petition that requests OCLC to rescind the rewritten OCLC Policy for Use and Transfer of WorldCat Records, and FAQ, and to work collaboratively with OCLC members and others, to write a new voluntary guideline to replace the 1987 record use policy. I believe that these documents should not be salvaged, and should be collaboratively re-written. I believe they are flawed because the membership of OCLC was not included in the authorship process, and because the policy is a legally binding document, which will pose legal difficulties for impossible to control downstream record use. The petition, at the following link, states this. http://www.petitiononline.com/oclc/petition.html The basic tenets of the petition are: 1.) Remove the currently rewritten OCLC Policy for Use and Transfer of WorldCat Records and FAQ from consideration as a policy statement; 2.) Form a truly representative group of OCLC members, non-members, and other cataloging service entities to review the 1987 policy in light of the current environment; 3.) Collaboratively work with this representative group and all OCLC members and others to re-write the 1987 OCLC Guidelines for the Use and Transfer of OCLC-Derived Records as a voluntary policy, not a legally binding document; 4.) State the basic premise of free and open access for all to member-contributed OCLC cataloging records; 5.) Acknowledge that these records are the property of their respective contributing members, and cannot by copyrighted or restricted in use by OCLC except for those services, records, and the WorldCat database features which OCLC has created/contributed; 6.) Maintain transparency and communication of group work during the re-writing process, via a website or other methods; 7.) Provide, consider, and act upon periodic requests for input on the policy from OCLC members and others; 8.) Present the final guideline to all OCLC member institutions, OCLC Members Council, and all others, and request final OCLC membership and Member Council ratification and approval of the guideline. For those of you who believe OCLC should not implement the policy/FAQ as written, and who perhaps have difficulty in figuring out (and letting OCLC know) exactly how they should be re-written, this petition provides a vehicle for your consideration and support. I'll send the signed petition to OCLC in February, 2009. Anyone can sign -- you don't have to be a member of OCLC, or a record contributor. Thanks, Elaine Sanchez Texas State University-San Marcos (my opinions only) Es02-u0qTN5BbCBiVc3sceRu5cw< at >public.gmane.org 512-245-3005 *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright ***********************************************************************

Re: Wrong URL on bibliographic record

Ngoc-My Guidarelli — 2008-12-01T20:29:15

Hello, Thank you, Mr. Aldred. I did not know that I could edit the record. The URLs have been fixed. Rich Aldred wrote:

Re: Wrong URL on bibliographic record

Rich Aldred — 2008-12-01T20:08:49

Ngoc-My, Have you tried to edit the 856? That is a field that any cataloger with a full cataloging authorization should be able to edit in OCLC. Rich Aldred Catalog Librarian Haverford College http://www.haverford.edu/library/ Haverford, PA 19041 Voice: 610-896-1273 Email: raldred-Z3Yaf4M1lXBVdeU8dOWy+g< at >public.gmane.org Fax: 610-896-1102 *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright ***********************************************************************

Wrong URL on bibliographic record

Ngoc-My Guidarelli — 2008-12-01T19:48:18

Hello: One of our catalogers discovered two incorrect links to the online version of this book: Prospects for managed underground storage of recoverable water published by National Academies Press (OCLC # 181599401; ISBN #0309114381). The current links lead to a book with a different title: Earth observations from space: the first 50 years of scientific achievement. The correct links are: http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=12057 http://search.nap.edu/nap-cgi/de2007.cgi?term=0309114381 (to view the cloud terms) We cannot edit the record because it was created by LC. We hope someone else can. There are 122 holdings attached to this record. Thank you,

Re: Genre for post-"apocalyptic" fiction

2008-12-01T18:32:46

The Road by Cormac McCarthy would also apply. Julie Julie Hankinson Assistant Librarian/Cataloger Benjamin Franklin Institute of Technology -----Original Message----- From: Schutt, Misha public.gmane.org> To: AUTOCAT-0lvw86wZMd99WKUUWUgXAA< at >public.gmane.org Sent: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 6:12 pm Subject: [ACAT] Genre for post-"apocalyptic" fiction There must be a genre heading, though I can't find it, for fiction about the collapse of civilization and life afterwards--ranging from Jack London's Scarlet Plague through A Boy and his Dog and the Canticle for Leibowitz. The LCSH "End of the world" specifically refers to religious expectations, so it's appropriate for the Left Behind series, but not for On the Beach. Misha Schutt Catalog Librarian Burbank (Calif.) Public Library (818) 238 5570 mschutt-3MzaxRoJ0Q5RYEWpF5Yf6A< at >public.gmane.org *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright *********************************************************************** *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright ***********************************************************************

Re: Daily Typo - December 1, 2008 - Minesota, etc. (for Minnesota)

Carol Reid — 2008-12-01T16:43:44

What a good suggestion. There are around eight variants on typos for Tennessee currently on the Ballard list. But none have been blogged so far. Thanks, Glenn! Carol It's also always good to check for variations of Tennessee. Carol Reid wrote:

Re: Daily Typo - December 1, 2008 - Minesota, etc. (for Minnesota)

Glenn Huffman — 2008-12-01T16:22:43

It's also always good to check for variations of Tennessee. Carol Reid wrote:

Re: Vendor records

Teresa Knapp — 2008-12-01T15:59:45

Dear Ms. Barr, We don't get shelf ready books with MARC records, but we do purchase records from Midwest and Recorded Books. I have found their records to require only the briefest of touching by me, and consistently above standard. I can see where libraries, especially small institutions with one or maybe two librarians would happily accept shelf ready books and records. Quite honestly, in the rural parts of the state here, there are libraries run by one person with maybe some volunteers. Cataloging would take a back seat to running the front desk and programs, and I know I'll get flamed for saying this, as well it should. Also, processing supplies take up a huge amount of space and can get quite expensive. If you cherry pick vendors who consistently do standard or above standard records, why not? Save the local history, genealogy, local authors, etc. for the librarian who may someday have time to do them. Now, that said, I cautiously guard my domain, but there are days, where I never get to sit down at my desk because I'm doing half a dozen other things, and I watch my piles get higher and higher. Those are the days, that I wish I could let go of some of my OCD tendancies, and just push materials through. Being as this is one of those days, I need to get back out front and help shelve, Teri Frick, Tech. Svcs. Lib. Orange County Public Library Orange, VA"We are librarians, and therefore the elect of God. To read is human, to catalogue divine." --from Dewey Death by Charity Black Stock. > Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:51:09 -0500> From: tatiana.barr-yvvs7vOg4dE< at >public.gmane.org> Subject: Vendor records> To: AUTOCAT-0lvw86wZMd99WKUUWUgXAA< at >public.gmane.org> > Seeing the question about shelf-ready books reminded me of a question I've => been meaning to ask: are there any libraries out there that get shelf-ready=> books and accept the records created by the vendor as the permanent record=> ? In other words, do you consider the quality of the records that come with=> your shelf-ready record good enough not to enhance or upgrade? If not, why=> ? And how do you deal with them? If you upgrade them, do you use staff to d=> o so or some service? If you accept them (although there might be somethin=> g you don't like about them), why? Or are you generally satisfied?> > I am just generally interested in the kind of issues that come up at librar=> ies who get shelf-ready books whatever the vendor.> > Tatiana Barr> Catalog Librarian> Yale University Library> 203-432-8213> > > > ***********************************************************************> > E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org> Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html> Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html> By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright> > *********************************************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_access_112008 *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright ***********************************************************************

Re: History of Cataloging

Prejsnar, Mark — 2008-12-01T15:37:03

not sure there is a single good in-depth work; here are some sources I have been finding interesting recently... 1. A history of cataloguing and cataloguing methods, 1100-1850 : with an introductory survey of ancient times : a thesis accepted for the honours diploma of the Library Association / by Dorothy May Norris. London : Grafton & Co., 1959. "republished by Gale Reasearch Company, Book Tower, Detroit, 1969." 246 p. 2. Subject headings : the history and theory of the alphabetical subect approach to books / by Julia Pettee. NY : H.W. Wilson, 1946. 191 p. 3. "Forging the Anglo-American cataloging alliance : descriptive cataloging, 1830-1908." Virgil L.P. Blake. .. and other papers in Catlaoging & Classification Quarterly, 35, nos. 1-2 ("Historical Aspects of Cataloging and Classification") 2002-2003. 4. "FRBR and the history of cataloging." William Denton. in Understanding FRBR, edited by Arleme G. Taylor. Westport : Libraries Unoimited, 2007. 5. Andrew D. Osborne, head of cataloging at Harvard, wrote in his time several works on cataloging, and one (full of both insights and peculiarities), which is germane to cataloging history, functioning in a sense both as a primary and a secondary source, is the pamphlet "The crisis in cataloging : a paper read before the American Library Institute at the Harvard Faculty Club, June 21, 1941." The Institute, 1941. Mark Prejsnar Cataloging/Acquisitions Services MacMillan Law Library Emory University 1301 Clifton Road Atlanta, GA 30322 USA -----Original Message----- From: AUTOCAT [mailto:AUTOCAT-0lvw86wZMd99WKUUWUgXAA< at >public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Killough Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 3:31 PM To: AUTOCAT-0lvw86wZMd99WKUUWUgXAA< at >public.gmane.org Subject: History of Cataloging Hi all. Can anyone recommend a good, in-depth history of cataloging? Is there even any such thing out there? I didn't have much luck on WorldCat. I'm looking for a book-length treatment. Thanks in advance! Aaron Killough, MLIS Cataloger Metropolitan Library System Oklahoma City, OK agkillough-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright *********************************************************************** This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright ***********************************************************************

Re: Daily Typo - December 1, 2008 - Minesota, etc. (for Minnesota)

Tom Sanders — 2008-12-01T15:32:01

By further truncating to Minest? I located several records where a 710 included Minesterio when it should have been Ministerio. I'm not in a good enough mood to discuss the translation of a Russian play, where the name of the translator/editor was in a 600 field. Grrr. Thomas R. Sanders Cataloging Dept. Auburn University Libraries 231 Mell St. Auburn, AL 36849-5606 sandetr-7KF8pGZKO2M3uPMLIKxrzw< at >public.gmane.org *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright ***********************************************************************

Re: Daily Typo - December 1, 2008 - Minesota, etc. (for Minnesota)

Carol Reid — 2008-12-01T15:27:17

Good catch, Mark! Thanks so much. I've edited the blog entry to include this typo, if that's okay with you. Minesota is on the Ballard list, but the other three should be added to it. Thanks again, Carol Carol Reid wrote in part: I'm guilty of mistyping the state as Minnestoa. I found quite a few hits in WorldCat when performing a keyword search on Minnesto*, several of which are clear errors (though there may be some legitimate spellings in the mix).

Re: Daily Typo - December 1, 2008 - Minesota, etc. (for Minnesota)

Mark Ehlert — 2008-12-01T15:18:53

Carol Reid wrote in part: I'm guilty of mistyping the state as Minnestoa. I found quite a few hits in WorldCat when performing a keyword search on Minnesto*, several of which are clear errors (though there may be some legitimate spellings in the mix).

Re: Subject Heading - Youth vs. Teenagers

Jim Weinheimer — 2008-12-01T15:15:14

_____ From: Karen Weaver [mailto:melvil4u-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 3:33 PM To: AUTOCAT; James Weinheimer Subject: Re: [ACAT] Subject Heading - Youth vs. Teenagers Just a couple of thoughts on this, I have not followed the whole discussion on youth and teenagers either in terms of dissected the LCSH on this, but they are and should be applied differently certainly. are they the same in terms of applying to a subject ? A good question might be too : just how has the "normal public" user (what exactly is that defined as?) has a certain level of catalog/library expectations today-?? Part of the entire history of librarianship as most of you know, is about helping all users find the information they need--both normal and abnormal users. A growing trend as you know is also the expectation for a online user to just "click and find" and not necessarily have to think beyond the "enter key". Librarians and catalogers should always be ready to assist other staff as well as especially all library users whether in person the old fashioned way --face to face, or online as part of their work, no? so as we can pull things apart , keep in mind also the important questions too about literacy, education trends and yes the proactive role of all librarians and library staff in an organization. Many libraries have also downgraded positions and had to likewise just "do more with less people" so in some cases, easier is the goal for staffing too--not just for "normal users" who want the "easy button" always. The "normal public" user I have in mind is someone who doesn't know anything about how to use a library catalog. For people who are trained in at least some of its nuances, i.e. the "abnormal" ones (!!), naturally, they know what they are doing and experience many fewer problems. But the concern is: when somebody searches "youth" they may be happy with the result, but the only reason they are is because they don't know what they are missing. I'm sure that a link to: http://lcsh.info/sh85149310#concept would positively blow their minds. When I conduct my Information Literacy classes, I have very little time to explain these things, (some faculty literally want me to show their students how to do research in 5 minutes!) and many students feel I am teaching them useless information anyway and pay no attention at all. If you want citations on this, take a look at: http://acrlog.org/2008/11/06/no-wonder-students-think-its-a-waste-of-time/ where they mention some recent studies. Plus, they mention the brilliant IAKT (I Already Know That) syndrome. Research has shown (and this confirms my experience) that most people think they are good searchers. Of course, this holds true only in Google and the moment they come to a library catalog, they can't find things so easily. They conclude that there is something wrong with the library catalog-not with them or with Google, and the solution is for the library catalog to become more like Google (an amazing conclusion!). They don't reconsider that their search on "wwi" in Google is poor, and suspect that they actually may be missing all the good stuff there. The only times I can maybe make a dent is when I have someone on a one-to-one basis, and I can show them the power of catalog searching-in conjunction with Google, Yahoo, research guides, Google Books and a whole range of things. It is all quite literally at hand now, or at least it can be. My contention is that hoping to train students in the use of the catalog is doomed to failure. We can't change people, so the catalog must change by being clearer and offering a range of help that has never really been around before, at least not without having an expert reference librarian nearby. It can certainly be done. I think there are innumerable ways to offer this help, but we will know only after many experiments and failures, plus an occasional success. I'll stop my rant before I begin to extol the virtues of open source yet again! James Weinheimer j.weinheimer-CfN8mjx0psg< at >public.gmane.org Director of Library and Information Services The American University of Rome via Pietro Roselli, 4 00153 Rome, Italy voice- 011 39 06 58330919 ext. 258 fax-011 39 06 58330992 *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright ***********************************************************************

Daily Typo - December 1, 2008 - Minesota, etc. (for Minnesota)

Carol Reid — 2008-12-01T15:10:26

Typo of the Day for Librarians Minesota, etc. (for Minnesota) Senate contenders Al Franken and Norm Coleman have been mining for missed and miscounted votes ever since Election Day, each one hoping to ultimately tip the scales in his favor. Coleman campaign attorney Fritz Knaak has called for a "truce" between the two camps, citing an "obscene number of ballots" being challenged in "the recount version of mutually assured destruction," according to the website MinnPost.com. Minesota is the clear winner in the Minnesota typos race, with 16 hits in OhioLINK. (Minnsota and Minnnesota are trailing with one and four respectively). Both candidates appear to have high self-esteem, but perhaps only Franken is smiling at himself in the mirror each morning, repeating: "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me!" (Al Franken on the campaign trail, from Wikimedia Commons.) Carol Reid Extracted, for AUTOCAT, from Typo of the Day for Librarians at http://librarytypos.blogspot.com/. If you have comments about the words selected, how they are selected, or the way the items are written, please contact Terry Ballard public.gmane.org>. *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright ***********************************************************************

Vendor records

Barr, Tatiana — 2008-12-01T14:51:09

Seeing the question about shelf-ready books reminded me of a question I've been meaning to ask: are there any libraries out there that get shelf-ready books and accept the records created by the vendor as the permanent record? In other words, do you consider the quality of the records that come with your shelf-ready record good enough not to enhance or upgrade? If not, why? And how do you deal with them? If you upgrade them, do you use staff to do so or some service? If you accept them (although there might be something you don't like about them), why? Or are you generally satisfied? I am just generally interested in the kind of issues that come up at libraries who get shelf-ready books whatever the vendor. Tatiana Barr Catalog Librarian Yale University Library 203-432-8213 *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright ***********************************************************************