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    <title>Re: "Stack Trikes"</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/10894</link>
    <description>Lrod,
Was looking at my trailer and thinking of the mounts on the back of a 
truck. If you have a full size truck, and use the extra long cross bars 
your could put both trikes up there, one facing froward and one facing 
rear. if you do that you will have to use the extended  troughs, that 
would leave the bed open for other stuff you want in it. I do that on my 
trailer but use regular length troughs, since i have extra room in front 
to let my boom have space.
Happy Triking
Don L.

P.S. Just always been able to figure things out by looking at them. D

Leo R. Guajardo, II wrote:

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    <dc:creator>Donald Eugene Leas</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-21T02:24:50</dc:date>
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    <title>"Stack Trikes"</title>
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    <description>List,
A "multi bucks" collapsible rear (trikes) bumper was never an option! 
I once tried putting both trikes (0pposing) in bed of my "medium" size
truck bed. They looked like they had crashed into each other, would
scratch each other, scratch walls of truck bed, etc! Have an 06 truck
which still 'looks' new, wish to keep it same.
I had originally thought of stacking on top (with wheel locks) of each
other, lower area just open. However, as Don L suggested, making a upper
shelf, leaving lower bed floor clear to move other trike (anywhere) or
other equipment for free space would not restrict lower trike to just one
place. I like his idea best.
Regarding any extra 'lifting', I have no problem with either trike of
raising it over my head, since both weight so little. Shall lift it to
bed, lift and place it on top.
Lift 2nd trike into bed, secure it, etc. Maybe when I get much older and
weak (wink), may consider mechanical lifting method.
Don L, are you an engineer, mechanically inclined , or just plane smart?
Maybe "old age fartdom" is catching up on me! LOL!

Lrod, II            in Dallas
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    <title>RE: Trikes in a truck</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/10892</link>
    <description>http://www.speedpedal.com.au/cms/A_108493/title_Building-a-Trailer-Rack/arti
cle.html

Simple wooden frame can also help.


Julian Edgar


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Behalf Of Garrie Hill
Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 9:38 PM
To: trikes&lt; at &gt;bikelist.org
Subject: [trikes] Trikes in a truck

Leo;
    If I understand you correctly, you want to be able to carry two  
trikes in one pickup truck bed.  I will assume both trikes are  
tadpoles.  At the risk of being risque, you need to use the"69"  
arrangement.  Put the first trike in facing the cranks to the front of  
the truck.  Now slide the second trike in with the cranks facing to  
the back of the truck.  The front wheels of #1 trike will now overlap  
the #2 trike. The setup puts two trikes in the a space only 50% wider  
than one trike.  I've been on many trips where we put two trikes in  
the back of a medium SUV like this.

Garrie L. Hill


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    <title>Trikes in a truck</title>
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    <description>Leo;
    If I understand you correctly, you want to be able to carry two  
trikes in one pickup truck bed.  I will assume both trikes are  
tadpoles.  At the risk of being risque, you need to use the"69"  
arrangement.  Put the first trike in facing the cranks to the front of  
the truck.  Now slide the second trike in with the cranks facing to  
the back of the truck.  The front wheels of #1 trike will now overlap  
the #2 trike. The setup puts two trikes in the a space only 50% wider  
than one trike.  I've been on many trips where we put two trikes in  
the back of a medium SUV like this.

Garrie L. Hill


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    <dc:date>2008-07-18T11:38:01</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Stack racks!</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/10890</link>
    <description>Yes it would be rather ugly if someone ran into the trikes. Both for the trikes and maybe for the person running into them. My trikes are not longer then my truck is wide. The bottom rack was made for a delta and the top for a tadpole. I wonder if the insurance company would believe it was going to?cost them about 8 grand+ if someone decided to bend them up some. I put my Lightfootcycles quad in a 12 ft trailer. In fact we have a parade Saturday and will do that once more. I put the Lightfootcycles Greenway backwards in the truck and secure it to one of those bars that is used to secure goods so they don't shift around. It is moveable and you put it wherever you want it. Works pretty good since I don't have any place to tie it down since my truck is covered and no place for tie downs to go
 . ?Fran


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From: David Wittenberg &lt;dkw&lt; at &gt;cs.brandeis.edu&gt;
To: mgta4&lt; at &gt;aol.com
Cc: lhard11&lt; at &gt;juno.com; trikes&lt; at &gt;bikelist.org
Sent: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 7:56 pm
Subject: Re: [trikes] Stack racks!



I worry about the hitch mounted racks, particularly for trikes.  They
seem to be putting a rather delicate trike in the position of a
bumper.  They also stick out past where the vehicle seems to end, and
in many cases block the taillights of the car.  I may be a
fuddy-duddy, but none of this strikes me as a good idea.

The reason trikes concern me more than bikes is that they're wider,
and thus are even farther back of the end of the car.

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 08:06:22PM -0400, mgta4&lt; at &gt;aol.com wrote:
Hitchrider. It leans out to load and unload and open the tailgate. Nice racks 
and great folks to work with. Fran

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    <dc:date>2008-07-18T01:13:09</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Stack racks!</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/10889</link>
    <description>I worry about the hitch mounted racks, particularly for trikes.  They
seem to be putting a rather delicate trike in the position of a
bumper.  They also stick out past where the vehicle seems to end, and
in many cases block the taillights of the car.  I may be a
fuddy-duddy, but none of this strikes me as a good idea.

The reason trikes concern me more than bikes is that they're wider,
and thus are even farther back of the end of the car.

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 08:06:22PM -0400, mgta4&lt; at &gt;aol.com wrote:

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    <title>Re: Stack racks!</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/10888</link>
    <description>
Will they not fit in the truck side-by-side? I used to put two trikes in 
the back of a station wagon (one facing forward the other backward). 
That would be narrower than the usual US pickup truck I'm sure.

Failing that, I've seen lots of tradies (like plumbers and builders) 
driving utes with racks having one or more levels, to carry long objects 
like pipe and timber. Sometimes they continue over the cab, for long 
lengths. (here's one: http://www.vsf.com.au/images/accessories-10.jpg)

G.
(for non-Australians: a ute is like a pickup truck but usually smaller, 
based on a sedan version of the same car.)
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    <dc:creator>Giles Puckett</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-18T00:54:12</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Stack racks!</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/10887</link>
    <description>Lrod,
I would go with a Yakima rack system you can get the mounts to put on 
your bed sides, put the cross bars on it. You just have to make sure the 
crossbars are high enough to roll the other trike under it. Push the 
rear wheel against the front of the bed and use a 2x4 or 2x6 to block 
the front wheels if your tail gate wont shut. If you want to face the 
upper trike backwards you put one trough down the middle and to cups on 
each side for the front wheels. Would take some lifting to get it up 
there, but should not be to much of a problem.
I use a utility trailer, with a Yakima MegaWarrior mounted on it to put 
the bikes on, I can configure it to put two trikes on it  or one trike 
and two DF's.
Hope these ideas help.
Don L

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    <dc:creator>Donald Eugene Leas</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-18T00:43:51</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Stack racks!</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/10886</link>
    <description>I don't know how to do what you want but I have the double decker from Hitchrider. It leans out to load and unload and open the tailgate. Nice racks and great folks to work with. Fran


-----Original Message-----
From: Leo R. Guajardo, II &lt;lhard11&lt; at &gt;juno.com&gt;
To: trikes&lt; at &gt;bikelist.org
Sent: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:21 pm
Subject: [trikes] Stack racks!



Guys( N ladies),
    I have finally convinced my lady friend to ride one of my trikes! " She
dun learnt how much afun it be". Now I have the problem of each of 
transporting them in two trucks!  In another cycle list group, I saw a
double decker trike rack. I asked for a source, but, not received a
reply. I did my own search and found something which I think would work. 
    It mounts on the hitch and has an 'offset' rack for the top. I simply
want to carry both trikes "in" the truck bed! Since the bottom trike will
rest in the bed, only need a sturdy rack for the top one.
Supports/legs/feet will be wide and flat on bed. 
    If any of you have another method of transporting two trikes in a
"pic'em" up truck, please reply. Yes, I have a welder and fully intend to
make my own.

Tnx,      Lrod, II                       in Dallas
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    <dc:date>2008-07-18T00:06:22</dc:date>
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    <title>Stack racks!</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/10885</link>
    <description>Guys( N ladies),
I have finally convinced my lady friend to ride one of my trikes! " She
dun learnt how much afun it be". Now I have the problem of each of 
transporting them in two trucks!  In another cycle list group, I saw a
double decker trike rack. I asked for a source, but, not received a
reply. I did my own search and found something which I think would work. 
It mounts on the hitch and has an 'offset' rack for the top. I simply
want to carry both trikes "in" the truck bed! Since the bottom trike will
rest in the bed, only need a sturdy rack for the top one.
Supports/legs/feet will be wide and flat on bed. 
If any of you have another method of transporting two trikes in a
"pic'em" up truck, please reply. Yes, I have a welder and fully intend to
make my own.

Tnx,      Lrod, II                       in Dallas
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    <dc:creator>Leo R. Guajardo, II</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-17T17:21:20</dc:date>
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    <title>High power LED flasher</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/10884</link>
    <description>http://www.autospeed.com.au/cms/A_110546/article.html

 

May interest those wanting to build their own lighting systems. Happy to
answer any questions. 

 

 

Julian Edgar

 

 

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    <dc:creator>Julian Edgar</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-16T00:17:22</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Trikke - gone</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/10883</link>
    <description>If I remember correctly, the "Trikke guy" was removed from the list because
just about every one of his posts, on prety much any topic, was relentless
flogging of the product he sold.  After a number of warnings, both public
and likely private, he disappeared.  No loss, IMO.

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From: "Tony Dombrowski" &lt;vwbugman02&lt; at &gt;yahoo.com&gt;
To: &lt;trikes&lt; at &gt;bikelist.org&gt;
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 3:30 PM
Subject: [trikes] RE: Trikke


Hi Leo,

I knew I could find it buried in my old e-mail listings. The contact info
is:

"Brett Breitwieser" &lt;brett&lt; at &gt;arizuma.us&gt;


Tony Dombrowski


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    <dc:date>2008-07-04T02:24:10</dc:date>
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    <title>Contacting Greenspeed</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/10882</link>
    <description>Just to add my two cents, I have contacted Greenspeed on numerous occasions 
and they have always responded quickly. Spookily so! Of all the companies I 
have ever dealt with, Greenspeed is far and away the best, as far a customer 
relationships go. They even replaced a Dual Drive transmission that had 
2,500 miles on it [and on a trike that I purchased used!].

Jules [GTO]


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Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 3:01 PM
Subject: trikes Digest, Vol 47, Issue 17



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    <dc:creator>Jules D. Zalon</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-29T15:34:42</dc:date>
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    <title>Tw-bent trike</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/10881</link>
    <description>Seen in Eugene.

Yesterday, I saw a TW-Bent trike here in Eugene, Or.  I think it is an 
"Apoyo" model

http://www.twbents.com.tw/HTM/recumbent.htm

This is an interesting concept.  On the one hand, it can be disassembled 
  for shipping/transport.  On the other hand, this feature seems like it 
would make the trike frame more flexible and more vulnerable to fracture.

Cool looking trike, though.

Dave Franzen
Eugene, Oregon


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    <dc:creator>Dave Franzen</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-28T03:37:14</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Bike shop for insurance valuation</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/10880</link>
    <description>
http://www.greenspeed.com.au/dealers/aus.html

Regards, Ian

Ian Sims, Director
Greenspeed Pty., Ltd.,
69 Mountain Gate Drive,
Ferntree Gully VIC 3156
AUSTRALIA
Phone +61 3 9758 5541 Fax +61 3 9752 4115
Email ian&lt; at &gt;greenspeed.com.au
Web www.greenspeed.com.au


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    <dc:creator>Ian Sims</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-28T02:48:24</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Bike shop for insurance valuation</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/10879</link>
    <description>Peter Armstrong said:

Ring them (if you haven't already.

I've found them quite responsive to email, but on the rare occasions
when I've been in a hurry a phone call has done the trick.

You may find that they simply don't supply the service - they don't
sell second hand Greenspeeds and very rarely come into contact with
people doing that. I know that with the Lamb Tandem (Lamb family, with
trailer-trike) they simply put us in contact with the Lambs and left
us to it. But tandem trikes are very tricky to sell and tend to stay
on the market for long periods so it's no surprise that Ian was aware
of it.

A better approach might be to ask for replacement value based on a
brand new one. Or just apply their standard bicycle depreciation value
to that price to get your current value. I assume from your request
that the former is too high and the latter too low for your liking,
however, so you might have to just look at the for sale ads and
guess...

Moz
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    <dc:creator>Moz</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-27T13:46:06</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Re: Trikke</title>
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    <description>Jim,
It must be my age LOL! Lady friend told me I was that heavy less then
five years ago! Not the bout 10 as I thot. Might be cause she does the
hugging around me LOL! 
Hope to NEVER give up on triking, but, this old 'engine' sometimes
backfires going up hill. As you might guess, when reclining , the
'muffler' is up front (wink). My home is at the top of a small hill from
lake/park with a jogging/bike path around lake. First few times I didn't
make it back up. When I was able to make it up and into my driveway, my
veins almost popped out from my very red face! Gotten a little better at
it now. 
In the beginning, some of the thugs around park used to make remarks
about my "sissy" bike. Tried to explain reason for desiring such extreme
comfort and the term 'tike'. Guess they are used to me now, even saw few
girls riding df s around park. Btw, now have a smaller profile auto under
sweat shirt.
 There was a thread about getting service at 'drive-ins' on a cycle.
Have transferred my Rx's to closer pharmacy and now getting them at
drive-in with no problems. Used to drive to Wal-Mart five miles away, now
I trike one mile there.

Lrod, II                  in Dallas


On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:38:36 -0700 James J Werner &lt;blackotter&lt; at &gt;juno.com&gt;
writes:
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7U3xYFTympyld1Hqojyq93
t8XsNw7pm5tneH5JmsRwtUK4F/

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    <dc:creator>Leo R. Guajardo, II</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-27T14:02:39</dc:date>
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On 27/06/2008, at 6:00 PM, Peter Armstrong wrote:

There's a greenspeed dealer in Adelaide, they might be able to help. I  
can't remember the details, but Rob Duncan who posts here on occasion  
will know...

Charlie.
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    <dc:creator>Charlie Bell</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-27T11:56:16</dc:date>
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    <title>Bike shop for insurance valuation</title>
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    <description>Folks, 
I have a second hand GLR that was built from a tube kit. Its value is well
into the specified items level, especially now that I have electrified it.
But that is another story. 

I have tried contacting Greenspeed on a few occasions but it seems to keep
getting lost in the cracks.

So I am trying to find a bike shop preferably in Adelaide that will do write
up a valuation for me so I can get it insured. I am happy to pay a
reasonable fee for time, I just need to get it sorted out since it is worth
far to much to not be insured. 

Any suggestions / Recommendations  ?? 

Regards, 
Pete

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    <dc:creator>Peter Armstrong</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-27T08:00:13</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: trikes Digest, Vol 47, Issue 15</title>
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    <description>Hi Kevin,

Roger Hiebert sent me a copy of it.

http://picasaweb.google.com/michael.e.ross/Misc/photo#5216187186995937554

Thanks,

Mike



On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Kevin Atkins &lt;katkins&lt; at &gt;indiana.edu&gt; wrote:



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    <dc:creator>Michael Ross</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-26T19:42:44</dc:date>
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    <description>
I can't tell you where it might be online now, but if I remember right, the 
owner sent it to me for digitizing and somewhere, *somewhere* in a box I 
have the print, and somewhere on a disk I must have the files...  I'll see 
if I can find and send just to Mike.

Here's my own canopy attempt, dormant for the moment. 
http://www.kevinatkins.org/greenspeed/canopy2004

Aha!  Here's the one I think Mike is looking for, which inspired mine: 
http://www.kevinatkins.org/terratrike/canopy


Cheers,

Kevin

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