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Re: Water and Stone

darcy meeker — 2012-05-21T00:19:59

you can do a lot with alabaster, water, and texture
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Re: Water and Stone

Kreigh Tomaszewski — 2012-05-20T01:59:26

Jeff,

The alabaster might have adsorbed a little water but that is not the 
cause of the rough surface. Alabaster is a form of gypsum that has 
water included in its chemical formula. If it loses the water in nature 
it turns into anhydrite. Gypsum is ground up and heated to drive off 
the water to make plaster.

Your water bath selectively dissolved some of the stone based on 
crystal orientation and trace impurities, leaving an irregular surface. 
Alabaster left to the elements can lose an eighth of an inch of surface 
in a year by being weathered away.

Kreigh


On Saturday, May 19, 2012, at 10:44 America/Detroit, Jeffrey Arnett 
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Re: Water and Stone

Martin Smith — 2012-05-19T21:02:54

The analogy with wood does not work, as alabaster will not shrink again when it dries. As others have said, alabaster is very absorbent. Its structure is weak (which is why it bruises so easily) and if you overuse water while polishing you can find that edges simply break away. Leaving the stone in water will just mean you have extra work to do to get a polish.

Re: Water and Stone

Don Dougan — 2012-05-19T19:27:23

Hey Jeff,
Alabaster is slightly soluble in water - what stonedyker said is correct.

You lost some surface and the 'roughness' is the less-soluble inclusions in
the more soluble matrix.
Keep it outdoors and/or exposed to water and you will discover some
wonderful textures, but at the expense of any polishing/sanding you have
done to the surface.

I have left pieces outdoors in the Southeastern US (Georgia) for a couple
of years and perhaps about a quarter-of-an-inch per year erodes-away from
Colorado white, Oklahoma pink, an unknown brown, and Italian 'occhio di
tigre' and 'bardiglio' alabasters.  Any cracks or fissures in the stone are
enlarged by the water erosion too.

Don Dougan
www.dondougan.com

Re: Water and Stone

2012-05-19T15:05:56

I'd venture that the roughness is due to a kind of chemical corrosion rather than expansion of the solid stone.

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Sent: Saturday, 19 May 2012, 15:44
Subject: [stone] Water and Stone

Stone Folks-
I have a question about alabaster that your collective wisdom may have an answer for.  I inadvertently left a small  piece of polished alabaster in water for a couple of days and it came out with a rough surface, as if it had absorbed the water (like the wood I carved in the old days) and this had raised the grain of the stone.  So I'm wondering if this might be a way to raise the "grain" of some varieties of stone (alabaster in particular) to aid in the sanding process.  As an old wood carver, I used to do this intentionally.

Any insights would be appreciated.
Jeff 
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Water and Stone

Jeffrey Arnett — 2012-05-19T14:44:34

Stone Folks-
I have a question about alabaster that your collective wisdom may have an answer for.  I inadvertently left a small  piece of polished alabaster in water for a couple of days and it came out with a rough surface, as if it had absorbed the water (like the wood I carved in the old days) and this had raised the grain of the stone.  So I'm wondering if this might be a way to raise the "grain" of some varieties of stone (alabaster in particular) to aid in the sanding process.  As an old wood carver, I used to do this intentionally.

Any insights would be appreciated.
Jeff

Re: Frank

Angela Treat Lyon — 2012-05-14T20:51:54

nice work, Frank - 
and I like the concept of the sideways thing -

but if I didn't know you from posts on other lists, I wouldn't take the time to let the whole thing load - it took a full four minutes.
 
I think it would really help if you had a static home page that people could come to where they could see what's up - 

like, a short rundown on the work with an image - maybe that one of you.

and links on that home page to an About You page, a Contact page, A bio page, an Artist Statement page, a Gallery page or pages - 

you'd have your sideways scrolling thing on the Gallery page - and let them know it takes a while for all the images to load. 

the first image you have of you is a really nice shot - I'm wondering if your images are at 72 dpi - they usually load faster at 72 - altho having them all load at once is the slower=downer.

Another option might be to have several galleries where the sideways scroll has less images - like, your studies, your heads, etc.

just a few thoughts - nice job, and I hope it gets you more clients -




aloha,
Angela

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 From: Frank Shopen <fshopen-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org>
To: stone-uGLqWuYN4qMgsBAKwltoeQ< at >public.gmane.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 15 May 2012 4:27 AM
Subject: [stone] oops! website with link
  
I've been working on my new website.� I'd love feedback.� I'm worried about
functionality.� I'm wondering if it doesn't work well on certain browsers.
I don't believe I've posted this to this list before, apologies if I have.
Thanks in advance for taking time.
http://www.fshopen.portfoliobox.net/gallery/33520/shopen-art
 

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Bunny thoughts

Liz Casserly — 2012-05-14T20:38:06

Amazing work. Took too long to load - might be my server................. I feekl you neeed some directions for where the viewer is to got next - have other links within you site?
- exhibitions - work for sale -contract work - contact me?
Liz\
I amy a mere bunny though

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Sent: Tuesday, 15 May 2012 4:27 AM
Subject: [stone] oops! website with link

I've been working on my new website.  I'd love feedback.  I'm worried about
functionality.  I'm wondering if it doesn't work well on certain browsers.
I don't believe I've posted this to this list before, apologies if I have.
Thanks in advance for taking time.
http://www.fshopen.portfoliobox.net/gallery/33520/shopen-art

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Re: oops! website with link

Nigel Ratcliffe-Springall — 2012-05-14T17:07:44


Flipping heck Frank, what great work - taken my mind away from looking at the site. I'll do that when I've stopped admiring the work.Nigel.

Re: oops! website with link

Mick Marshall — 2012-05-14T16:57:32

Nice work. Took me awhile to figure out that I should drag the white box across to see the photos.  

Mick

oops! website with link

Frank Shopen — 2012-05-14T16:27:26

I've been working on my new website.  I'd love feedback.  I'm worried about
 functionality.  I'm wondering if it doesn't work well on certain browsers.
 I don't believe I've posted this to this list before, apologies if I have.
 Thanks in advance for taking time.
http://www.fshopen.portfoliobox.net/gallery/33520/shopen-art

Re: My new website

2012-05-14T15:08:35

Please send link






Robin Antar

My new website

Frank Shopen — 2012-05-14T15:04:53

I've been working on my new website.  I'd love feedback.  I'm worried about
 functionality.  I'm wondering if it doesn't work well on certain browsers.
 I don't believe I've posted this to this list before, apologies if I have.
 Thanks in advance for taking time.

Re: Stone place

Jeff Watson — 2012-05-13T11:11:38

I am with you there Robin. 
Jeff
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On 2012-05-13, at 3:24 AM, hardartartist-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ< at >public.gmane.org wrote:

Re: Stone place

2012-05-13T07:24:54

Your so right Robin.  The mind controls the body.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid

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I always say carving stone is a life saver. It is the best theraphy around. 






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Re: Stone place

2012-05-13T01:12:01

Thank you Jeff.  And Angela, what my high horse is that I want to be
creating what I call useless objects of art, instead of functional pieces. 
But now I'm happy to just be carving anything.
Jennifer 
 
 
 
 
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From: Jeff Watson
Date: 5/12/2012 4:53:39 PM
To: stone-uGLqWuYN4qMgsBAKwltoeQ< at >public.gmane.org
Subject: [stone] Re: Stone place
 
Welcome back! Good news that you are on the road again!
Jeff
On 2012-05-12, at 2:59 PM, hardartartist-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ< at >public.gmane.org wrote:
 
there I was put in an induced coma and the anesthesia used had the
capability of giving the patient partial memory loss. I seem to gave all
sorts of memory problems since returning home and one of them is the name of
where I bought some stone a few years back.  It's in western Canada, and by
George it just came to me.  Well so much for that!  Just thought I'd mention
that I'm carving again and feeling really good about it.
 
Jeff ( Guv) Watson
150, bord de l'Eau Est,
Longueuil, Qc. J4H 1A1
jeff.watson-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg< at >public.gmane.org
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(450) 674-6222 Phone
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Re: Stone place

2012-05-13T00:48:19

I always say carving stone is a life saver. It is the best theraphy around. 






Robin Antar

Re: Stone place

Jeff Watson — 2012-05-12T23:53:07

Welcome back! Good news that you are on the road again!
Jeff
On 2012-05-12, at 2:59 PM, hardartartist-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ< at >public.gmane.org wrote:


Jeff ( Guv) Watson
150, bord de l'Eau Est,
Longueuil, Qc. J4H 1A1
jeff.watson-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg< at >public.gmane.org
www.sculpturejeffwatson.com
(450) 674-6222 Phone
(514) 755-9476 Mobile

Re: Stone place

Angela Treat Lyon — 2012-05-12T23:24:43

sounds great - I'm glad you're still at it and that people love your work! 

know what you mean - I know all about that High Horse Syndrome...I've got too many pieces gathering dust here because of it - but still can't bear to let them go for less-than prices -

this morning I was contemplating what it has been that has kept me carving and painting all these years, despite people not seeming to give a rat's patooty about buying any of it - and I just figured heck, it keeps ME happy, that's what counts. I hate not being happy! LOL -

stay healthy now, OK?




aloha,
Angela

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From: "hardartartist-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ< at >public.gmane.org" <hardartartist-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ< at >public.gmane.org>
To: <stone-uGLqWuYN4qMgsBAKwltoeQ< at >public.gmane.org>
Subject: [stone] Re: Stone place
Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 16:03:40 -0700

Thank you Angela.  I'll post the work on Facebook for all to see.  It will
be a combination of smallish art pieces and my little stone vases to assure
I don't go home from the show empty handed.  I've descended from my high
horse and am just happy to make something that makes others happy.
Jennifer
 
 
 
Jennifer Cull
PO Box 504
Penn Valley, CA 95946
(530)913-7626
jennifercull-stonesculpture.com
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From: Angela Treat Lyon
Date: 5/12/2012 2:08:44 PM
To: stone-uGLqWuYN4qMgsBAKwltoeQ< at >public.gmane.org
Subject: [stone] Re: Stone place
 
so glad you're back and getting to it again -
keep us updated on your new pieces -
we're rooting for you!
 
 
aloha,
Angela
 
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http://ArtbyLyon.com
http://Lyon-Art.com
http://PrintsbyLyon.com
 
http://AngelaTreatLyon.com
808-261-0940
 
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To: <stone-uGLqWuYN4qMgsBAKwltoeQ< at >public.gmane.org>
Subject: [stone] Stone place
Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 11:59:28 -0700
 
As some of you know I spent most of the winter in the hospital.  While there
I was put in an induced coma and the anesthesia used had the capability of
giving the patient partial memory loss. I seem to gave all sorts of memory
problems since returning home and one of them is the name of where I bought
some stone a few years back.  It's in western Canada, and by George it just
came to me.  Well so much for that!  Just thought I'd mention that I'm
carving again and feeling really good about it.
 
  




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Re: Stone place

2012-05-12T23:03:40

Thank you Angela.  I'll post the work on Facebook for all to see.  It will
be a combination of smallish art pieces and my little stone vases to assure
I don't go home from the show empty handed.  I've descended from my high
horse and am just happy to make something that makes others happy.
Jennifer
 
 
 
Jennifer Cull
PO Box 504
Penn Valley, CA 95946
(530)913-7626
jennifercull-stonesculpture.com
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From: Angela Treat Lyon
Date: 5/12/2012 2:08:44 PM
To: stone-uGLqWuYN4qMgsBAKwltoeQ< at >public.gmane.org
Subject: [stone] Re: Stone place
 
so glad you're back and getting to it again -
keep us updated on your new pieces -
we're rooting for you!
 
 
aloha,
Angela
 
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Angela Treat Lyon
 
http://ArtbyLyon.com
http://Lyon-Art.com
http://PrintsbyLyon.com
 
http://AngelaTreatLyon.com
808-261-0940
 
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From: "hardartartist-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ< at >public.gmane.org" <hardartartist-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ< at >public.gmane.org>
To: <stone-uGLqWuYN4qMgsBAKwltoeQ< at >public.gmane.org>
Subject: [stone] Stone place
Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 11:59:28 -0700
 
As some of you know I spent most of the winter in the hospital.  While there
I was put in an induced coma and the anesthesia used had the capability of
giving the patient partial memory loss. I seem to gave all sorts of memory
problems since returning home and one of them is the name of where I bought
some stone a few years back.  It's in western Canada, and by George it just
came to me.  Well so much for that!  Just thought I'd mention that I'm
carving again and feeling really good about it.
 
 
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Re: Stone place

weissinger — 2012-05-12T22:41:02

I hope the "brain fog" isn't too bad, Jennifer.  Hope you are feeling
better.

Bill Weissinger