http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/57 <pre> For encouraging use of new technologies, this is a good idea. I think the best places to do something like this is is probably in conjunction with user group meetings or broadly targeted conferences where there might be people just interested but not core. </pre> Geir Bækholt 2011-02-24T06:29:46 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/56 <pre>Hi Geir, unfortunately we have to wait some time for my feedback on Deco, because I am in other projects now. But... The story of creating a new User-Group Session Format Origin Last time we had a local user group meeting in december, Timo Stollenwerk did a great wrapup of the Plone Conf input onthe state of Plone and the future roadmap. We showed my running deco buildout to give the audience a live feeling of Deco and Dexterity. Both are much more TTW content creation than developers want to mention. The idea Some days after the meeting Jan Ulrich Hasecke and I took the time to reflect the format of our meetings and how we can improve the experience and take our community further. I had the idea to make coworking sessions similar to sprints, but not focused on the development, but more aiming at finishing the real world tasks of integrators setting up sites but now also doing this side by side in a coworking session. This should not be compareable with barcamps nor learning camps. Jan Ulrich suggested a name we could use internationally for this kind of events: " Plone HandsOn Meetings" The concept A typical starting/primer topic can be coming together and setting up Deco buildouts, Configuring Dexterity Types TTW and do some roundtripping development in the filesystem. Then styling this output with Diazo in the next steps should be a great experience either you are already a Plone infected person or curious. In fact the difference to a "workshop" like we did the last years on the FrOSCon conferences is not that great, but changing the name changes the audience. The didactic base for these sessions could be a web-platform containing screencasts, slides and prezies etc. to be reused as entry lessions. This is "chain reaction ware". Every effort invested in this direction should pay back and increase the community spreading factor from linear to logarithmic. One important source thing should be a general "HowTo contribute" to this ressource. We have a lot of stuff at Plone.org taht can be reused but with different focus / wording. cheers Armin Am 21.01.2011 um 09:52 schrieb Geir Bækholt: </pre> Armin Stroß-Radschinski 2011-01-21T12:57:43 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/55 <pre>Hi local Plonistas, FYI the new simple Wordpress domain / landing page for an overview over regional activities with a common branding. http://central.wordcamp.org A common branding for local usergroups should be a good starting point for fellows focusing on meeting not on organising common stuff from scratch. Is there any progress? be inspired... do not copy, create yourself Armin -- Armin Carl Stroß-Radschinski, Dipl. Designer acsr industrialdesign, Landgrafenstraße 32, 53842 Troisdorf, Germany Telefon +49 (0) 22 41 / 94 69 94, FAX +49 (0) 22 41 / 94 69 96 eMail a.stross-radschinski-itUlVD6B3SM&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org - http://www.acsr.de UST. ID Nr: DE154092803 (EU VAT ID) </pre> =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Stro=DF-Radschinski_Armin_C.=22?= 2010-09-30T07:48:46 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/54 <pre>_______________________________________________ Usergroups mailing list Usergroups-G3yHMj00SlOLbbK5bonKug&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/usergroups </pre> Los Angeles Plone Users Group 2010-08-13T02:20:19 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/53 <pre> AndŠ I've withdrawn my request, for fear that it appeared too hostile. To clarify: not trying to be hostile, am trying to help. Help. Not hostile. :-) But I'll give it a rest for a while. Best, Alex On 7/22/10 4:53 AM, in article C86D7F49.25819%aclark-pzuzLh+EMZSsTnJN9+BGXg&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org, "Alex Clark" &lt;aclark-pzuzLh+EMZSsTnJN9+BGXg&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: </pre> Alex Clark 2010-07-22T23:20:04 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/52 <pre>Folks, Ahem. I'd like to move this conversation forward a bit since it seems to have stalled. ;-) As you may recall, I objected to the board's recent rejection of my request to "fund our meetup" ( http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/membership/2010-July/001195.html). (Of course, that objection was more about process then the actual issue, but now back to the issue.) Since then, I've had time to reflect and this is what I see: - The board outwardly cites a "tight budget" as the reason they can't help. - Folks like Liz Leddy and Mark Corum are "working on" the board to get them to cover meetup costs. So, my request now is two-fold: - Liz and Mark, can you detail your efforts here (or would you prefer to have them remain private for some reason)? - I'd like to ask the board to consider ZPUGDC's request for meetup.com expense coverage and I can provide any amount of justification as may (and should) be required. To the folks who cited my request as "way off the mark", I respectfully disagree: - Our meetup costs $75 for 6 months, or $150/year IIRC. - According to the sponsorship program I designed, that's between a Bronze and Silver ( http://zpugdc.org/sponsorship/). We'd happily accept that and make a special donor category for the Plone foundation. Now, the board could still say no, and I'm giving up after the end of this month for another year or so, but I think it's important to give this issue as much respectful push as possible between now and then. Alex P.S. Here's a quick outline for an actual plan that the board could use to implement this policy: PF board to OK meetup expense coverage for user groups ====================================================== 1. User groups must have been in existence for one year prior to asking for funds. 2. User groups must feature at least one Plone talk per meeting. 3. User groups must meet once a month. Using this criteria, the board can easily decide each year whether or not to renew requests. I.e. Whether or not they got their money's worth. </pre> Alex Clark 2010-07-22T08:53:29 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/51 <pre> On 15-07-2010 16.48, Chris Calloway wrote: That's what we did when we started the first one in Norway in June. We made it a Python meetup, with a bunch of Zope/Plone people. It was a success that'll be repeated and expanded on. </pre> Geir Bækholt 2010-07-18T23:23:34 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/50 <pre>Hi Geir, On 7/17/10 7:18 PM, in article i1tdnk$mng$1&lt; at &gt;dough.gmane.org, "Geir Bækholt" &lt;plone&lt; at &gt;baekholt.com&gt; wrote: Aha, well good to know then, I guess. I may be starting to agree with you, though that is a bit disappointing and discouraging. &gt; If so, then so be it. We have corporate would be &gt; "nice" to get the logos of these On 16-07-2010 20.46, Alex Clark wrote: &gt; We &gt; &gt; that -- Can you explain why? I mean, this is the essence of user group support isn't it? User groups gather frequently because they professionally use software, and they want to get better using it and they want their software to get better. Corporations (and individuals) fund user group efforts because they want the best people to know about them. The Plone Foundation is a non-profit corporation, whose purpose is to promote (and protect) the Plone software (which is not that unlike a for profit corporation doing the same thing e.g. Zenoss). If the Plone Foundation is being true to its mission, would it not be appropriate to allocate some funds for marketing and promotion? I already know the answer to be yes, so what I'm missing is solely why this particular kind of opportunity is viewed as at best trivial, at worst a waste of the foundation and its membership's time? Just trying to figure it out, Alex Geir Bækholt www.jarn.com/baekholt Representing only myself, _______________________________________________ Usergroups mailing Usergroups&lt; at &gt;lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/usergr </pre> Alex Clark 2010-07-18T10:24:21 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/49 <pre> In my personal opinion, the quotes below confirms that you are. On 16-07-2010 18.06, Alex Clark wrote: &gt; If so, then so be it. We have corporate donations. But I thought it would be &gt; "nice" to get the logos of these foundations up on our siteŠ On 16-07-2010 20.46, Alex Clark wrote: &gt; We want to promote Plone. We feel that in promoting Plone, we are adding &gt; value. We are asking for some financial compensation in exchange for &gt; that value. This is about as far off the mark as you can get in my world. </pre> Geir Bækholt 2010-07-17T23:18:11 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/48 <pre>_______________________________________________ Usergroups mailing list Usergroups-G3yHMj00SlOLbbK5bonKug&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/usergroups </pre> Alex Clark 2010-07-16T18:46:28 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/47 <pre>_______________________________________________ Usergroups mailing list Usergroups-G3yHMj00SlOLbbK5bonKug&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/usergroups </pre> Elizabeth Leddy 2010-07-16T17:31:00 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/46 <pre>Folks, I want to open a discussion on the following subject and would appreciate your feedback. First, read this thread: http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/membership/2010-July/001195.html. Second, tell me what you think about it. :-) I'm generally under the impression that software foundations exist to promote the software they were created to support. But I've received a "no" from both the Zope and Plone foundations, and no reply from either the Python or Django foundations. Meanwhile, we continue to go above and beyond the norm to support their software in our area. We will continue to do so regardless of their decisions of course, and I hold absolutely no animosity toward them for their decisions, but I am just very curious about the process. What is it about supporting our efforts that these foundations are not buying in to? Am I missing something obvious? What can I do better to make them listen? ;-) My point/question is basically this: am I that far off the mark that all four foundations are going to say "no" ? If so, then so be it. We have corporate donations. But I thought it would be "nice" to get the logos of these foundations up on our siteŠ Thanks, Alex </pre> Alex Clark 2010-07-16T16:06:45 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/45 <pre> Ditto that. </pre> Chris Calloway 2010-07-15T14:48:25 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/44 <pre>_______________________________________________ Usergroups mailing list Usergroups-G3yHMj00SlOLbbK5bonKug&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/usergroups </pre> Alex Clark 2010-07-05T05:35:42 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/43 <pre>_______________________________________________ Usergroups mailing list Usergroups-G3yHMj00SlOLbbK5bonKug&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/usergroups </pre> Elizabeth Leddy 2010-07-02T17:05:30 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/42 <pre>FWIW, I just updated: http://zpugdc.org/ With links to Boston Plone and Plone Lounge :-) Don't forget you can "brand" your meetup by customizing the domain. So, eleddy for example, you could make your group's web address: http://meetup.plonelounge.org (it's in the meetup control panel somewhere toward the bottom IIRC) </pre> Alex Clark 2010-06-30T01:18:14 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/41 <pre>_______________________________________________ Usergroups mailing list Usergroups-G3yHMj00SlOLbbK5bonKug&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/usergroups </pre> Jon Stahl 2010-06-30T01:15:41 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/40 <pre>_______________________________________________ Usergroups mailing list Usergroups-G3yHMj00SlOLbbK5bonKug&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/usergroups </pre> Alex Clark 2010-06-30T00:26:48 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/39 <pre>Hi, On 6/27/10 12:18 PM, in article AANLkTinVEOzHA-vpOx514Y_wR-GyJuVqOKZ2LKYs1QZ1-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org, "Nate Aune" &lt;natea-cNZgzcB+5vhWk0Htik3J/w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: The single best thing you can do IMO is to open up your group to "Python people" at large. Of course, you have to provide the content (e.g. Python-centric talks). But that's not too terribly difficult. In our meetups, we usually start off with an around the room where we ask people "What is your current favorite Python-based technology?" And then folks tell us what they are working on. My "favs" are usually Plone or Zenoss or Zope specific, but not always. The point is, as Plone has its roots very deeply in Python, and even though not everyone digs on Zope 2, or the ZTK, or Plone, etc., it somehow "just works". The Plone people get to think outside the box a bit. And the Python people get a taste of Plone. Win win. +1 </pre> Alex Clark 2010-06-30T00:09:38 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/38 <pre>_______________________________________________ Usergroups mailing list Usergroups-G3yHMj00SlOLbbK5bonKug&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/usergroups </pre> Elizabeth Leddy 2010-06-29T23:23:10 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/37 <pre>_______________________________________________ Usergroups mailing list Usergroups-G3yHMj00SlOLbbK5bonKug&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/usergroups </pre> Elizabeth Leddy 2010-06-29T00:58:46 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups