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    <link>http://gmane.org</link>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.internationalization/4014">
    <title>Change of the person responsible for the Plonetranslation to catalan</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.internationalization/4014</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

Since the end of 2007 I've been responsible for the Plone translation into catalan.
It  has been a pleasure but it's time to give this task to someone who can dedicate more time because I now have it hard.

Please get in touch with him to create his user at plone.org and at the subversion repository to have permissions to update the translation files.


Goodbye and thank you everyone!


Lídia Esparraguera
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.internationalization/4013">
    <title>Re: zope.po editing without write access tosvn.zope.org?</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.internationalization/4013</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

This is not possible to move zope.app.locales translations to
plone.app.locales, because zope.app.locales can be used without Plone.

I think the inclusion of plone.app.discussion translations to
plone.app.locales can be possible now.
It was not possible before because we had a single version of
plone.app.discussion that worked on both Plone 3 and 4 and a different
plone.app.locales version for Plone 3 and 4.
plone.app.discussion 2.1.x seems to break the compatibility with Plone 3.3
and 4.0, so I think we can include the translations in plone.app.locales,
but this needs some work.

plone.app.locales will move to collective github some day.

Vincent Fretin


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    <title>Re: Plone 4.1.5, 4.2rc1</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.internationalization/4012</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

I released plone.app.locales 4.0.12. This is a 4.0.x version, this means it
is compatible with Plone 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2.
If one day I drop messages from Plone 4.0 and 4.1, the version number will
be 4.2.x.

I've just added 63 new messages to translate from plone.app.theming.
If there are other packages I missed, please tell me.

Vincent


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    <title>Re: Plone 4.1.5, 4.2rc1</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.internationalization/4011</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Where is messages of plone.app.theming ?

2012/5/8 Eric Steele &amp;lt;ericsteele47-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org&amp;gt;:

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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.internationalization/4010">
    <title>zope.po editing without write access to svn.zope.org?</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.internationalization/4010</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi there,

It has been a few years since I was involved in translating Plone core and
wanted to give it a go again. However, you now need write access to three
respositories to get the work done: SVN Collective (as usual), Plone Github
(to edit plone.app.discussion) and Zope SVN (zope.app.locales that is now
used in a bunch of Plone forms).

I don't mind signing a couple of contributer agreements, but it I can feel
the stop energy..

What about moving all Plone core related translations to plone.app.locales?

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    <title>Re: Plone 4.1.5, 4.2rc1</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.internationalization/4009</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Thanks,  

I'm wrapping up 4.2rc1 now, after far too many delays. I've cut a new release of plone.app.querystring with your changes.

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    <title>Re: Plone 4.1.5, 4.2rc1</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.internationalization/4008</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

Sorry for the delay, I was in vacations and was busy when I came back.
I've just fixed two remaining i18n issues in plone.app.querystring and
resynced the translations.
Previous updated translation should have 2 new messages to translate.

I can do the release tomorrow.

Vincent

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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.internationalization/4007">
    <title>Products.Poi: translation updates needed</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.internationalization/4007</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi international folks,

I have just made a 2.1.0 beta release of Products.Poi:
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Products.Poi/2.1.0b1
http://plone.org/products/poi

I have updated the way the e-mails are done, putting everything in 
templates now, instead of a big string including RestructuredText that 
had to be translated entirely.  This does mean that new translations are 
needed.  So if you want to update the translation of Poi in your 
language, that would be much appreciated.

The source code is now on github.com:
https://github.com/collective/Products.Poi

Everyone with access to the Plone collective should be able to checking 
code there, or fork the project and create a pull request.  Otherwise 
just e-mail me or add an issue in the tracker and upload your 
translation there:
https://plone.org/products/poi/issues

Thanks a lot!

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    <dc:creator>Maurits van Rees</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-02T15:15:57</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.internationalization/4006">
    <title>Plone 4.1.5, 4.2rc1</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.internationalization/4006</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi, 

I'd like to release Plone 4.1.5 and 4.2rc1 this week. Could I have updated plone.app.locales for each by the end of the day Wednesday?

Thanks,
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    <title>Re: new collection internationalization in Plone 4.2</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.internationalization/4005</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;2012/3/26 Vincent Fretin &amp;lt;vincent.fretin-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org&amp;gt;:

I have started translating those string, but many of them are already
translated (with minor changes) in another domain (perhaps at
atcontenttypes?). Things like "tags" or "tags are used to categorize
content" "relative path"... must be present somewhere no?


Mikel



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    <dc:date>2012-03-26T11:22:53</dc:date>
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    <title>new collection internationalization in Plone 4.2</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.internationalization/4004</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

I need your help.
I've just added 64 new messages in the plone domain.
Can somebody translate them in your language and see if all is translated
when you create a new collection?
If not please reopen the following ticket:
https://dev.plone.org/ticket/12377

Thanks

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    <title>Re: Proposal for translations</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.internationalization/4003</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

Like I said on the previous thread "[Plone-i18n] Plone 4.1.4/4.2b2", I'm +1
on the idea too.
I proposed a plan in the previous thread. I really don't have time myself
to do the migration this month.
I can find the time in april to do it. But if somebody want to step ahead
to migrate it, please do.

I'll appreciate your effort in documentation area.
There is a chapter that need to be updated here:
http://collective-docs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/i18n/contribute_to_translations.html
It still uses svn buildout instead of github.

Regards
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    <title>Proposal for translations</title>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

As some people already knows we have tried to use transifex and we failed.

Because I still believe we can't ask translators to work with svn here is
my proposal:

Let's use github's collective and make a documentation on how they can use
online editing. It means you don't need to have a tool, but just the need
to register.
We can also let people doing fork and pull request over translations.

Let me know your opinion please on this idea.

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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Il 14/02/2012 11:26, Vincent Fretin ha scritto:


+1 for me

I completely agree, I always thought the actual disposition is too much 
intricate.
Gh can definitely help us in simplifying and in speeding up this part.

Giacomo

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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

I propose to migrate both plone.app.locales and PloneTranslations to github
collective.
So you will have a package plone.app.locales on github collective and the
actual PloneTranslations/trunk will be in
plone.app.locales/plone/app/locales/locales. No more svn external. The
PloneTranslations/trunk/i18n/kupu will be moved to Products.kupu/i18n on
collective svn where it belongs.
But I think we can't easily keep the history of both package. I suggest to
import PloneTranslations as plone.app.locales on github so we have the
history of translations, then import the structure of plone.app.locales
package. We will lose the previous tags of plone.app.locales. svn tags of
plone.app.locales have svn externals set to a specific collective svn
revision, it will be useless to git anyway.

There is some advantage to github.
You can fix a typo online.
A lambda user can propose a better translation just by adding a comment to
a commit for example,

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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;2012/2/10 Vincent Fretin &amp;lt;vincent.fretin-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org&amp;gt;:

There two points here:

1. Plone/Collective

Until now translations were not 'Plone core" I continued editing
through collective... I think that the choice should be made by the
Foundation, to consider translations as "plone core" and thus require
a contributor agreement or not.

2. SVN -&amp;gt; Github

Should this package also be migrated to Github? Are the translators
confortable with Github? It's not the same to work on a plone product
and to translate PO files... I don't know... I prefer to use SVN for
this case, but i wouldn't mind moving to github. I'm +-0 on this :)


Mikel


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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

I couldn't wait, I'm not available today.
So I imported the structure of the plone.app.locales package to svn
collective to be able to make the release.
plone.app.locales 4.0.11 released and plone-coredev buildout 4.1 and 4.2
updated.

We can keep the plone.app.locales empty package to svn collective or
in the long-term migrate both plone.app.locales and PloneTranslations to
github. The question is github plone or github collective?
What translators think about it?

Vincent


On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:36 AM, Eric Steele &amp;lt;ericsteele47-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org&amp;gt; wrote:

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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Thanks. 

I'll check with the AI team to see if we can unlock that. 
plone.app.collection 1.0.2 is released.

Eric 


On Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 3:24 AM, Vincent Fretin wrote:


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    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.internationalization/3996</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi everyone,

You have 2 new messages in plone.app.ldap domain
and 4 new messages in plone domain for Plone 4.2b2

Eric, I did a fix in plone.app.collection.

Argh and I cannot commit on plone.app.locales because the plone svn is now
read only.
What do I do?
plone.app.locales uses svn externals to collective. I don't think it's a
good idea to move it to github.

Vincent

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Eric Steele &amp;lt;ericsteele47-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org&amp;gt; wrote:

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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi all, 

I'd like to make releases of 4.1.4 and 4.2b2 on Friday of this week. Could I have a new release of plone.app.locales?

Thanks,
Eric

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Be careful with this. I struggle to switch Google back to English in
Thai internet cafes, because the list of languages is in Thai, which I
can't read.

Ed Manlove's suggestion (to show both forms) is good.

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