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Re: Unicode issue

Benjamin Fritz — 2011-12-13T19:32:50

First, you've sent your question to a list discussing the pages on the
wiki, not a Vim help list. You should have sent it to
vim_use< at >googlegroups.com, as discussed here:

http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki:Community_Portal#Asking_questions

I've included this list on my reply, you should respond there if you
have any additional problems.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Edward Garbowski <exg< at >sabinmetal.com> wrote:

It sounds like your 'fileencodings' option is not set correctly.
Probably it contains "ucs-bom" but not "utf-8".

This is probably because either you've deliberately edited your
'fileencodings' option, or you've never set Vim up to use a multibyte
'encoding' option in the first place.

See http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Working_with_Unicode and the help
references listed near the bottom of that tip, to get started.
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Unicode issue

Edward Garbowski — 2011-12-13T16:09:55

I am having an issue with opening a text file with no BOM.  I have a
text file that opens fine in Notepad, but if I open it in VIM I just
get garbage.

If I look at the hex code, there is no BOM in the beginning.  If I put
a BOM in, it works.

How can I make VIM work with no BOM on reading a file?  Or is this a
bug of some kind?

I am using version 7.3.46

Ed
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Re: auto complete help

John Beckett — 2011-04-17T07:48:08

This mailing list is pretty dormant, and its purpose is to
discuss the wiki rather than issues concerning Vim.

Hi Brett,

You should ask your question at the vim_use mailing list. See:
http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki:Community_Portal#Asking_questions

I don't use tricky completions but they are possible, and you
can certainly make a list of whatever you want and use it for
completions. We probably don't have much at the wiki that is
terribly helpful, but see the following, mainly for the "see
also":
http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Any_word_completion

John

auto complete help

Brett — 2011-04-17T07:00:26

Hi guys, I’m wondering how I can get VIM autocomplete to list all the mysqli functions in PHP.
It has some but not all, for (e.g.) mysqli_connect_error is there but mysqli_connect is not is there a way to fix this??
I’ve just compiled VIM and a fresh copy of php that does have all the mysqli functions.... Am I missing something??

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Candidates for deletion

John Beckett — 2010-03-03T04:07:26

Please consider the pages recommended for deletion:
http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion

Next Tuesday I intend deleting the pages listed.

There are a couple of particularly unhelpful old tips in the
list, but I now have a new way of dealing with unwanted existing
tips: I just replace the tip with a redirect to another tip
which covers the same topic.

In the future, I think I will just delete any pages listed for
deletion for at least 28 days, without giving any other notice,
particularly when the deletion looks routine.

Please reply if you see any problems, or edit the talk page of
the above.

John

Re: Need good tab-page tips on Vim Tips wiki

John Beckett — 2009-11-28T23:53:14

That's tip 95:
http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Capture_ex_command_output

I have added a list of all the tips I can find relevant to
tab pages to tip 1347:
http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Quick_tab_navigation_and_opening

Tip 1347 now has a section where we might plan what to do (which
tips to merge, what names to use, etc).

Where feasible, rather than add new tips I would prefer to
drastically modify (and probably rename) one of the existing
relevant tips; I'll think about that later.

I think there should a tip with an introduction to the fact that
tabs exist but are different from other editors. That page
should have an outline of the various ideas you and Bill have
discussed.

Another tip should have suggestions for tab navigation (this
might be combined with the introduction, but probably that would
be unduly complex).

John

Re: Need good tab-page tips on Vim Tips wiki

Bill Odom — 2009-11-28T11:33:14

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Benjamin Fritz
<fritzophrenic-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

I mostly use tab pages for things I want close at hand, but out of the
way. Some examples off the top of my head:

* Multiple full-page Vim help topics, each in their own
conveniently-labeled tab page.

* Reference material (API docs, framework source code, project notes,
etc.) that I need to refer to often, but don't necessarily want taking
up screen real estate adjacent to whatever I'm working on.

* At-a-glance summaries: I sometimes work in a buffer with most or all
folds open, and keep a second tab page buffer with all folds closed.
The folded version serves as an overview of the entire file, usually
visible on a single screen.

* Quick Vim environment modifications: I'm always tweaking my Vim
settings, but I don't want to disrupt whatever I'm (supposed to be)
working on just to update my .vimrc. I have a key map that opens
$MYVIMRC and $MYGVIMRC in new tabs, so I can jump in and make whatever
changes are necessary, then close them and immediately go back to what
I was doing.

* "X-ray" buffers: I'll sometimes keep an alternate representation of
a buffer in a separate tab page, with useful but visually-noisy
options like 'list', 'cursorcolumn', 'cursorline', and 'number' all
turned on, several :match patterns active, etc. This way, I can keep
my regular working view clean and uncluttered, but quickly flip over
to the information-overload version (the "x-ray") when I need it. (You
don't have to get this crazy with it, of course; the idea works for
pretty much any setting in `:help option-summary` labeled 'local to
window'.)

* Scratchpads: Tab pages are good for throwaway buffers, where I work
with random chunks of text before (possibly) incorporating them into a
file I plan to keep around.

* Redirected Ex command output: I often want to use the output from an
Ex command (vs. just viewing it in the status area), so I have a
routine that runs a command, captures the output, then opens a new tab
page containing the captured text. As with most of these techniques,
this could also be done with a new window, or even within the current
window, but I find using a new tab page less disruptive.

* Mini-sessions: If you remove 'tabpages' from 'sessionoptions',
:mksession will only pay attention to the current tab page. This makes
it easy to use tab pages as a lightweight project-organization tool --
just open a set of files in whatever window layout you like, then run
`:mksession some-random-project.vim` to save the current tab page as a
session. To work on that set of files again, open a new tab page and
:source the appropriate session file.


I don't know if any of these rise to the level of full-blown tips, but
perhaps they'll spur discussion.

Thanks,
Bill

Re: Need good tab-page tips on Vim Tips wiki

John Beckett — 2009-11-26T23:00:56

I think we need a "Using tab pages" tip that discusses the
basics and includes any short ideas. It might incorporate some
of the other muddled tips: I'm beginning to favour some brutal
pruning to remove fundamentally unhelpful stuff.

I have 'hidden' set and often have multiple modified buffers
loaded (and not visible). But I also use tab pages, mainly for
stuff that I want to keep around for a while (your first two
points above).

My weak contribution is that I sometimes look at Vim help by
inserting a 'tab' prefix when I want the help page to open in
a maximum size window that I think I will want to keep around.
Example:

  :tab h /\%v

Sometimes I might do 'h /\%v' first, then change my mind, so I
do <c-w>c to close the window, then : and up arrow and insert
'tab ' then press Enter. I know there are ways to move the
existing window to a new tab, but my simple procedure does the
job without stress.

John

Need good tab-page tips on Vim Tips wiki

Benjamin Fritz — 2009-11-26T06:16:30

I sometimes hang out on the #vim channel on Freenode, where use of tab
pages is often discouraged in favor of efficient use of the
buffer/argument lists, split windows, and the 'hidden' option.

Personally, I prefer using tab pages in many circumstances, but have
never really had any specific advantages or features of tab pages that
I can bring up to support my preference.

On the Vim Tips Wiki, we have in the category description of
http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Tabs an indication that the
category contains tips that "exploit Vim's tab page design to do
clever things you can't do in other editors", but there are very few
tips in this category that actually offer this.

I'm sure there are clever ideas out there that leverage the power of
tab pages in Vim, that are difficult or impossible to accomplish
otherwise. I'd like to add some of these ideas to the Tabs category on
the wiki.

Please add these ideas to the wiki directly, or respond to this
thread. You don't need to make the tip perfect before adding it, there
are other editors that can improve on your work. At the moment, I'd
just like to get a few tips out there! If I see a lot of wiki
submissions without much discussion in the thread, I'll probably post
links to the new tips or collect a list somewhere on the wiki.

Here are a couple of simple ideas. Some of these are probably not
worth a tip on their own, but perhaps may make a nice "quick tips"
list:
* Opening a diff window for a buffer that you are also editing in
another tab, without messing up window layout or options set by
:diffthis
* Opening a full-screen window on a buffer without messing up buffer
layout or messing with :mkview/:mksession
* Running a command on a limited selection of buffers without using
the argument list (see
http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/User:Fritzophrenic/Repeat_a_command_on_a_selection_of_buffers
for some notes on this and a potentially acceptable tip stub)

If you don't like the idea of using tab pages, this is not the thread
to say so. We all know that Vim tabs don't act like the tabs in other
editors. I'm starting this thread to find some good reasons why this
is so. Criticism of specific ideas or a brief discussion of
alternative methods is fine.

Let's get the ideas flowing!

Ben Fritz (fritzophrenic)

News: RTE, SEO, Syntax highlighting

John Beckett — 2009-09-04T03:55:50

Some Vim Tips wiki news and requests for opinions:

RTE: Wikia introduced a "Rich Text Editor" for new users who
want to type pure text with bold and italics. The RTE is very
unhelpful when editing a Vim Tip and I want to ask Wikia to
remove the editor.

I need people to quickly say "*Remove ~~~~" or "*Keep ~~~~"
(click "edit" on the Comments line at the bottom) at
http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/User:JohnBeckett/Rich_text_editor

SEO: I am hoping to boost the wiki's Google rank with some
changes. SEO ideas are needed:
http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/User:JohnBeckett/Search_engine_optimization

Syntax highlighting: MediaWiki has been upgraded to 1.15.1 and
it is likely that we will have syntax highlighting for Vim
scripts in about a week from now.
http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/User:JohnBeckett/Syntax_highlighting

Minor irritation: Date stamps are now U.S. That applies to
signatures on talk pages, and history pages. It's an irritation
for those of us who also spend some time at Wikipedia where we
get used to searching for "4 sep" to find dates on September 4.

John