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    <title>Re: [Gimp-user] Edit menu contents iin 2.8</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/22459</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
I don't see a clean way without recompiling the app. Of course, for 
those that are implemented via plugins, removing the plugin (or making 
it non-executable on Unix-like platforms) should be enough... but there 
is the risk that this plugin is used under the hood by another 
plugin/script you use (even if this is not too likely for those of the 
"decorative" kind).
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Ofnuts</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-24T22:42:07</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [Gimp-user] Forschungsprojekt zur Verbesserung von GIMP</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/22458</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;

Ich bitte bis auf Weiteres um Vorsicht mit der ursprünglichen Mail - die 
Existenz von Carolin Hillmann lässt sich auf der TU-Berlin-Seite nicht 
bestätigen, und die Angabe einer Mobilfunknummer in einer Mailingliste 
ist auch eher ungewöhnlich - es gab auch keine uns bekannte vorherige 
Kontaktaufnahme mit GIMP-Entwicklern.


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I'd like to ask everyone to be cautious about the original mail until 
further notice - the existence of Carolin Hillmann can't be verified via 
the TU Berlin web site, and adding a mobile phone number to a public 
mailing list is uncommon - and there has been no known attempt to 
contact GIMP developers beforehand.


At least, I would have expected a &amp;lt; at &amp;gt;mms.tu-berlin.de -mail address.


Carolin, if this is a real project, please provide a bit more 
information about its background.



Regards,
Michael
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Michael Schumacher</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-24T19:53:54</dc:date>
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    <title>[Gimp-user] Edit menu contents iin 2.8</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/22457</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Is it possible to edit the menu options to remove those items I will never use ? 
If so then how ?

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Russ57</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-24T18:24:35</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [Gimp-user] need help...</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/22456</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;2012/5/24 Geri Henney &amp;lt;gerihenney&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gmail.com&amp;gt;

Image: File -&amp;gt; Print, or Ctrl+P.
--
Olivier Lecarme
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    <dc:creator>Olivier</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-24T15:05:39</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [Gimp-user] Installing</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/22455</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;

This is a problem in the message text - it requires SP3 (and IIRC we've already seen a report where updating to SP3 was necessary to fix a problem), the message hadn't been updated.


Regards,
Michael
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    <dc:creator>Michael Schumacher</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-24T15:04:01</dc:date>
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    <title>[Gimp-user] need help...</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/22454</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;how do i print what i create in gimp?
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    <dc:creator>Geri Henney</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-24T13:51:48</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [Gimp-user] Ppm 16bit handling</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/22453</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;  

On Thu, 24 May 2012 10:27:30 +0200, Simon Budig wrote: 

bruno&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;buys.net.br [1] (bruno&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;buys.net.br [2]) wrote:
when I open a 16bit tiff, Gimp *still* pops up the "can't handle 16bit,
information will be lost...". After opening the file I go to Image &amp;gt;
Precision and change to 16bit. But from what I understand, setting the
file to 16bit *after* it was downed from 16 to 8 doesn't help.
Information was already discarded in the first conversion.
working at the TIFF plugin and some tiffs get loaded correctly
others are broken at the moment). Tiff is quite convoluted and
ton of different options. It is hard to wrap your mind around it.
I don't understand: can't Gimp just open the file as it is, with no
conversion whatsoever, since support to 16bit is there?
unfortunately it is not that easy. There is a certain API
for the file-plugins that transfers the image data to the Gimp
That API was only prepared to accept 8 bit images. The transition
the core to a wider range of data formats did not change the old API,
since we wanted to keep compatibility for the plugin (or all plugins
would have disappeared simultaneously).
second set of API functions that support the
However, this means that the plugins which want to
data formats need to be changed to use the new API.
this is quite easy and means less code in the plugins,
have to be done and it is real work.
(plug-ins/common/file-pnm.c) should be easy. The
simple and straight-forward as it gets. If you want to
development and help with the progress of Gimp you are
a shot at it. If you catch me in IRC (#gimp, nomis) I'll
give assistance.

Hi Simon!
That´s very friendly
of yours to reply in such detail. Now I feel like my first 
email was a
little "clientish". Sorry for that. Gimp isn´t a private company.

I am
not of much help as a coder, but I can provide files and give
feedback
in testing.

Good news is, since you said you are working in
16bit tiff, when its done, 
it will be huge. Tiff is an important bridge
for those of us converting from raw.

Other good news is, I was able to
load, work and save a 16bit png file, following
this
post:
http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/gimp-2.8-released-next-version-to-get-high-bit-depth-precision

The
file was converted from tiff to png with 'convert', and opens without
the 
loose data notification. After opening, the precision is indeed set
to 16bit.

All the best! 

Bruno

  

Links:
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[1]
mailto:bruno&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;buys.net.br
[2] mailto:bruno&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;buys.net.br
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    <dc:creator>bruno&lt; at &gt;buys.net.br</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-24T14:21:45</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/22452</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;


Thank you Jonathan for this post, you described well what I'm feeling too.

For png pictures, I often open 10 or 15 small png pictures for edition, I just want to change some colors or add a little thing, and now when I overwrite or "export" to png (it's technically not an export because my original picture was also in this format), then the picture's name is lost, it's irritating when we need to work further on the pictures, because we can't find it any longer thanks to the window's name.

- I don't understand why the original filename, including the original extension are not kept in the window's name after an overwrite or an export.

- I don't understand why we can't overwrite more than once (otherwise I would just remap the ctrl+s to overwrite)
- I don't understand why the "overwrite" option is not active when we open an xcf file, it could just save the file in the same format as it was open, like for png, jpg or tiff.


I don't want to develop further, I just hope enough users will complain 
so developpers will go back to the old behavior, or at least make this 
"idiot-proof" save scheme an option which can be disabled for normal, 
aware, user. It takes 5 minutes to read an explanation on how raster 
images works (you can still redirect newcomers to 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG#Effects_of_JPEG_compression ), it's a pity to affect the behavior of Gimp because of this.
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Forgeot Eric</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-24T13:49:24</dc:date>
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    <title>[Gimp-user] Installing</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/22451</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I tried to install gimp on my laptop.  I had never updated it (the laptop), so Gimp said it needed XP with service pack 2.  I updated and installed service pack 2 and it still won't install - it says it needs XP with service pack 2, which I have now.  But it still won't proceed beyond selecting the language.

Any thoughts anyone?

Cuda
aka Robin Fish
He who tracks the thread count in the fabric of reality.

"Unum praedica, sapientiam crucis!"   (There is only one thing to preach, the wisdom of the cross!)
 
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    <dc:creator>Cuda</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-24T12:56:21</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [Gimp-user] Ppm 16bit handling</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/22450</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
I am working at the TIFF plugin and some tiffs get loaded correctly
(while others are broken at the moment). Tiff is quite convoluted and
has a ton of different options. It is hard to wrap your mind around it.


Well, unfortunately it is not that easy. There is a certain API
available for the file-plugins that transfers the image data to the Gimp
core. That API was only prepared to accept 8 bit images. The transition
of the core to a wider range of data formats did not change the old API,
since we wanted to keep compatibility for the plugin (or all plugins
would have disappeared simultaneously).

Hence we had to invent a second set of API functions that support the
new data formats. However, this means that the plugins which want to
make use of the new data formats need to be changed to use the new API.
In a lot of cases this is quite easy and means less code in the plugins,
but the changes have to be done and it is real work.

Porting the p*m-Plugin (plug-ins/common/file-pnm.c) should be easy. The
file-format is as simple and straight-forward as it gets. If you want to
dabble with development and help with the progress of Gimp you are
welcome to take a shot at it. If you catch me in IRC (#gimp, nomis) I'll
be glad to give assistance.

Have fun,
        Simon

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Simon Budig</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-24T08:27:30</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [Gimp-user] Ppm 16bit handling</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/22449</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;

Yes - all it takes is programming, code to handle each format at higher
bit depths. Patches are generally welcomed...

Liam

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Liam R E Quin</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-24T03:23:50</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/22448">
    <title>Re: [Gimp-user] Ppm 16bit handling</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/22448</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,
So after a bunch of package installing and compiling, I am successfully
running Gimp 2.9.1 from git, on debian wheezy.
The thing is, when I open a 16bit tiff, Gimp *still* pops up the "can't 
handle 16bit,
information will be lost...". After opening the file I go to Image &amp;gt; 
Precision  and change
to 16bit. But from what I understand, setting the file to 16bit *after* 
it was downed
from 16 to 8 doesn't help. Information was already discarded in the 
first conversion.
I don't understand: can't Gimp just open the file as it is, with no 
conversion whatsoever, since
support to 16bit is there?

Thanks much,


Bruno
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>bruno&lt; at &gt;buys.net.br</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-24T02:34:29</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8 + Brushes</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/22447</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;

Click the "filter" drop-down. If you added a folder of brushes into
~/.gimp-2.8/brushes/fancynewbrushes, then you should have a tag/button
called "fancynewbrushes" that you can click. This filters down the list
of brushes to only those that were in that folder (you can also manually
tag brushes if you want). 


I don't understand. You first explain how you can delete some brushes,
then you say that it's impossible? (There's even a simpler way: just
right click and select the "delete" option.)

I can imagine a situation where deleting wouldn't be possible though: if
you installed the brush pack through a package manager, as the root user
(so it's installed in /usr/share/gimp/2.0/brushes/somename or
something). GIMP can't give you root permissions ;) so in that case,
what you should do is copy it over to your user directory,
~/.gimp-2.8/brushes/somename, uninstall it from the package manager, and
then you can start deleting individual brushes from either GIMP or the
folder.


-Kevin


A: Yes.
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Kevin Brubeck Unhammer</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-23T11:13:35</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/22446">
    <title>[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8 + Brushes</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/22446</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hello, my name is Alex Stegmann, and I've been using Gimp for sometime now.
It's a fantastic program, but I thought the area where it lacked the most
was the brushes. It only came with a few basic brushes, and you often had
to download extra packs for that something extra. This in itself wasn't a
huge deal, although if you had brush sets more like those of PaintTool SAI
or MyPaint, that would be really great. Those program don't have as much as
Gimp, but they have some really great brushes, which makes them fun to draw
in.

My bigger concerns is adding your own brushes to Gimp via imported brush
packs. While you say you integrate all files, the brush manager is lacking.
If I wish to add a few brush packs to see what they do, the brush list
quickly becomes clogged. You can't seem to delete brushes without going
back into the brushes folder which you first put them in, and then delete
the files. This also means if you like a few brushes in a pack, but the
rest of it is useless to you, then you have to have everything, or nothing.

There is a lot to be desired in terms of the brushes, and I hope you can
improve these soon. I stand by Gimp, even though people often call it a
watered down version of Photoshop, but Gimp 2.8  has been a huge
disappointment for me.

On a final note, when choosing a new brush, especially for the animated
texture brushes you include, I think it would be useful if you
automatically went to the brushes native size. This saves time and energy,
especially if you are testing out new brushes. MyPaint has this feature,
and I have found it incredibly useful. This also means I can just click the
brush a second time to reset it to the default settings.

I would very much like to see Gimp become an essential piece of software on
every digital artists computer, but for now it seems to be trailing behind.
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    <dc:creator>Alex Stegmann</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-22T21:49:46</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [Gimp-user] Forschungsprojekt zur Verbesserung von GIMP</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/22445</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Liebe Carolin,

dies ist eine englischsprachige Mailingliste, Ihr solltet also auch
eure Mail und die Umfrage in Englisch machen. Dies wäre nicht nur
netter gegenüber den meisten Lesen der Mailingliste, es würde die
Reichweite auch erheblich erhöhen.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Tobias

2012/5/22 Carolin Hillmann &amp;lt;carolin.hillmann&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;googlemail.com&amp;gt;:
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Tobias Jakobs</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-23T07:49:11</dc:date>
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    <title>[Gimp-user] 2.8 on FreeBSD?</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/22444</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I don't see a 2.8 in the FreeBSD ports tree.  Can anyone tell me / point 
me to where to find out what the status is?

Thanks,

Gary
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Gary Aitken</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-22T20:14:12</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [Gimp-user] set mode or opacity for multiple layers at once?</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/22443</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
I have a script that takes a stack of layers, and interleaves it with 
another stack of layers (or with a single layer duplicated enough 
times), while applying the same mode &amp;amp; opacity to all layers from one of 
the two stacks (mostly mean to merge something in an animation). See 
"interleave-layers" here: http://gimp-tools.sourceforge.net/tools.shtml
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Ofnuts</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-22T20:10:52</dc:date>
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    <title>[Gimp-user] Forschungsprojekt zur Verbesserung von GIMP</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/22442</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hallo Liebe Gimp-User,

*Wir repräsentieren ein Forschungsprojekt der Technischen Universität
Berlin. In diesem Zusammenhang suchen wir NutzerInnen von professionellen
Grafikprogrammen, die zu einem Interview über ihren diesbezüglichen
Arbeitsalltag bereit wären.  Unser  Ziel ist die benutzerfreundlichere
Gestaltung der GIMP-Oberfläche.  **

Wer Lust hat uns dabei behilflich zu sein, den bitten wir den angehängten
Fragebogen ausgefüllt an uns zurück zu schicken.

Wir danken für euer Engagement!!!

Mit freundlichem Gruß

Carolin Hillmann
Projektleitung*

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Carolin Hillmann</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-22T19:13:52</dc:date>
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    <title>[Gimp-user] set mode or opacity for multiple layers at once?</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/22441</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Is it possible to set the blending mode or the opacity settings for
multiple layers all at once?  Ideally I'd like to select multiple layers
and change the settings for all of them at once, but I can't seem to figure
out a way to do this, so I think it doesn't exist?

Is this something other people would like to be able to do?
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    <dc:creator>rutile&lt; at &gt;gmail.com</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-22T19:08:27</dc:date>
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    <title>[Gimp-user] Forschungsprojekt zur Verbesserung von GIMP</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/22440</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;_______________________________________________
gimp-user-list mailing list
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    <dc:creator>Carolin Hillmann</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-22T17:20:21</dc:date>
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    <title>[Gimp-user] Forschungsprojekt zur Verbesserung von GIMP</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/22439</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hallo Liebe Gimp-User,

*Wir repräsentieren ein Forschungsprojekt der Technischen Universität
Berlin. In diesem Zusammenhang suchen wir NutzerInnen von professionellen
Grafikprogrammen, die zu einem Interview über ihren diesbezüglichen
Arbeitsalltag bereit wären.  Unser  Ziel ist die benutzerfreundlichere
Gestaltung der GIMP-Oberfläche.  **

Wer Lust hat uns dabei behilflich zu sein, den bitten wir den angehängten
Fragebogen ausgefüllt an uns zurück zu schicken.

Wir danken für euer Engagement!!!

Mit freundlichem Gruß

Carolin Hillmann
Projektleitung
*
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    <dc:creator>Carolin Hillmann</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-22T17:16:20</dc:date>
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