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    <title>hylafax/libhylafax update now available</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8197</link>
    <description>Update of /usr/local/cvsroot/hylafax/libhylafax
In directory cvs.hylafax.org:/tmp/cvs-serv5790/libhylafax

Modified Files:
AtSyntax.c++ DialRules.c++ FaxClient.c++ TypeRules.c++ 
Log Message:
Added translator comments for many unclear translatable strings


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    <title>hylafax/faxrm update now available</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8196</link>
    <description>Update of /usr/local/cvsroot/hylafax/faxrm
In directory cvs.hylafax.org:/tmp/cvs-serv5790/faxrm

Modified Files:
faxrm.c++ 
Log Message:
Added translator comments for many unclear translatable strings


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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8195">
    <title>hylafax/po/hylafax-client update now available</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8195</link>
    <description>Update of /usr/local/cvsroot/hylafax/po/hylafax-client
In directory cvs.hylafax.org:/tmp/cvs-serv5790/po/hylafax-client

Modified Files:
messages.pot 
Log Message:
Added translator comments for many unclear translatable strings


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    <title>hylafax/po/libhylafax update now available</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8194</link>
    <description>Update of /usr/local/cvsroot/hylafax/po/libhylafax
In directory cvs.hylafax.org:/tmp/cvs-serv5790/po/libhylafax

Modified Files:
messages.pot 
Log Message:
Added translator comments for many unclear translatable strings


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    <dc:creator>pfournier&lt; at &gt;cvs.hylafax.org</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-28T21:09:39</dc:date>
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    <title>hylafax/po update now available</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8193</link>
    <description>Update of /usr/local/cvsroot/hylafax/po
In directory cvs.hylafax.org:/tmp/cvs-serv5790/po

Modified Files:
hylafax.pot 
Log Message:
Added translator comments for many unclear translatable strings


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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8192">
    <title>[Bug 898] New: can connect to other computers but no fax</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8192</link>
    <description>http://bugs.hylafax.org/show_bug.cgi?id=898

           Summary: can connect to other computers but no fax
           Product: HylaFAX
           Version: 4.3.0
          Platform: Other
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: faxsend
        AssignedTo: hylafax-devel&lt; at &gt;hylafax.org
        ReportedBy: carter2454&lt; at &gt;msn.com
                CC: carter2454&lt; at &gt;msn.com


We have an IBM eSeries 346 with FC5
uses ttyS0  (one serial port)
Can not send faxes 
Using class 2 we get..

ERR No carrier detected

Using other classes we will get error in phase b &amp; C
Modem will dial out and the remote fax will answer, then our Multitech 5634zba
will hang up....

Using mincom or kermit we can connect to remote computers..but can not send
faxes..

--NextPart2864
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Your facsimile job to 7712094 failed because:
No carrier detected

---- Transcript of session follows ----

Nov 14 14:19:15.06: [ 2727]: SESSION BEGIN 000000416 15017712094
Nov 14 14:19:15.06: [ 2727]: HylaFAX (tm) Version 4.3.0
Nov 14 14:19:15.06: [ 2727]: SEND FAX: JOB 317 DEST 7712094 COMMID
000000416 DEVICE '/dev/ttyS0' FROM 'carter &lt;carter&lt; at &gt;fulleribm&gt;' USER
carter
Nov 14 14:19:15.06: [ 2727]: &lt;-- [9:AT+FLO=1\r]
Nov 14 14:19:15.08: [ 2727]: --&gt; [2:OK]
Nov 14 14:19:15.08: [ 2727]: &lt;-- [9:AT+FPP=0\r]
Nov 14 14:19:15.09: [ 2727]: --&gt; [2:OK]
Nov 14 14:19:15.09: [ 2727]: &lt;-- [9:AT+FBO=0\r]
Nov 14 14:19:15.11: [ 2727]: --&gt; [2:OK]
Nov 14 14:19:15.11: [ 2727]: &lt;-- [10:AT+FCT=30\r]
Nov 14 14:19:15.13: [ 2727]: --&gt; [2:OK]
Nov 14 14:19:15.13: [ 2727]: &lt;-- [11:AT+FCQ=1,0\r]
Nov 14 14:19:15.14: [ 2727]: --&gt; [2:OK]
Nov 14 14:19:15.14: [ 2727]: &lt;-- [15:AT+FNR=1,1,1,1\r]
Nov 14 14:19:15.16: [ 2727]: --&gt; [2:OK]
Nov 14 14:19:15.16: [ 2727]: &lt;-- [13:AT+FAP=1,1,1\r]
Nov 14 14:19:15.18: [ 2727]: --&gt; [2:OK]
Nov 14 14:19:15.18: [ 2727]: &lt;-- [9:AT+FIE=0\r]
Nov 14 14:19:15.20: [ 2727]: --&gt; [2:OK]
Nov 14 14:19:15.20: [ 2727]: &lt;-- [23:AT+FCC=1,5,2,2,1,1,0,0\r]
Nov 14 14:19:15.22: [ 2727]: --&gt; [2:OK]
Nov 14 14:19:15.22: [ 2727]: DIAL 7712094
Nov 14 14:19:15.22: [ 2727]: &lt;-- [28:AT+FCC=,,,,1,,,,0;DT7712094\r]
Nov 14 14:19:34.28: [ 2727]: --&gt; [2:OK]
Nov 14 14:19:34.28: [ 2727]: SEND FAILED: JOB 317 DEST 7712094 ERR No
carrier detected
Nov 14 14:19:34.28: [ 2727]: &lt;-- [5:ATH0\r]
Nov 14 14:19:34.41: [ 2727]: --&gt; [2:OK]
Nov 14 14:19:34.41: [ 2727]: SESSION END

---- Unsent job status ----

Need your help please.

Carter


</description>
    <dc:creator>bugzilla-daemon&lt; at &gt;hylafax.org</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-21T23:53:24</dc:date>
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    <title>hylafax/faxd update now available</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8191</link>
    <description>Update of /usr/local/cvsroot/hylafax/faxd
In directory cvs.hylafax.org:/tmp/cvs-serv15292/faxd

Modified Files:
      Tag: HYLAFAX-4_4-branch
Class1Recv.c++ Class2Recv.c++ ClassModem.c++ ClassModem.h 
CopyQuality.c++ ModemServer.c++ ModemServer.h STATUS.txt 
faxGettyApp.c++ faxSendApp.c++ pageSendApp.c++ 
Log Message:
Abort receive session on error writing to file
So that we don't confirm a fax we won't actually have.


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    <dc:creator>pfournier&lt; at &gt;cvs.hylafax.org</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-21T21:07:04</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8190">
    <title>hylafax/faxd update now available</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8190</link>
    <description>Update of /usr/local/cvsroot/hylafax/faxd
In directory cvs.hylafax.org:/tmp/cvs-serv14621/faxd

Modified Files:
Class1Recv.c++ Class2Recv.c++ ClassModem.c++ ClassModem.h 
CopyQuality.c++ ModemServer.c++ ModemServer.h STATUS.txt 
faxGettyApp.c++ faxSendApp.c++ pageSendApp.c++ 
Log Message:
Abort receive session on error writing to file
So that we don't confirm a fax we won't actually have.


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    <dc:creator>pfournier&lt; at &gt;cvs.hylafax.org</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-21T20:55:48</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8189">
    <title>T38modem and Sip providers</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8189</link>
    <description>Hi All,

We are about to configure the T38modem with asterisk, we
use the hylafax to send and receive our faxes.
I just want to confirm whether T38modem and sip providers works the
best and gives the commercial grade fax.

Thanks,
Nagesh.
</description>
    <dc:creator>Nagesh</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-14T10:54:07</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8188">
    <title>Re: Where is ClassModem::dataTimeout initialized?</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8188</link>
    <description>
Indeed.  dataTimeout isn't being initialized.  Please try the attached 
patch.

Thanks,

Lee.
</description>
    <dc:creator>Lee Howard</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-09T01:47:15</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8187">
    <title>Where is ClassModem::dataTimeout initialized?</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8187</link>
    <description>Hi, I'm having trouble sending faxes with Hylafax 4.3.4 on NetBSD 4.99.72 on 
a DEC Alpha:

[ stuff deleted ]
Nov 07 02:42:42.86: [15730]: SEND training at v.17 14400 bit/s
Nov 07 02:42:42.86: [15730]: DELAY 70 ms
Nov 07 02:42:42.93: [15730]: &lt;-- [9:AT+FTH=3\r]
Nov 07 02:42:43.12: [15730]: --&gt; [7:CONNECT]
Nov 07 02:42:43.13: [15730]: &lt;-- data [23]
Nov 07 02:42:43.13: [15730]: &lt;-- data [2]
Nov 07 02:42:43.14: [15730]: --&gt; [7:CONNECT]
Nov 07 02:42:43.15: [15730]: &lt;-- data [7]
Nov 07 02:42:43.15: [15730]: &lt;-- data [2]
Nov 07 02:42:45.13: [15730]: --&gt; [2:OK]
Nov 07 02:42:45.13: [15730]: &lt;-- [9:AT+FTS=7\r]
Nov 07 02:42:45.21: [15730]: --&gt; [2:OK]
Nov 07 02:42:45.21: [15730]: &lt;-- [11:AT+FTM=145\r]
Nov 07 02:42:46.68: [15730]: --&gt; [7:CONNECT]
Nov 07 02:42:46.69: [15730]: &lt;-- data [1024]
Nov 07 02:42:46.69: [15730]: &lt;-- data [1024]
Nov 07 02:42:46.69: [15730]: &lt;-- data [2]
Nov 07 02:42:47.21: [15730]: Problem sending TCF data
Nov 07 02:42:47.21: [15730]: &lt;-- [9:AT+FRS=1\r]
Nov 07 02:43:17.23: [15730]: MODEM &lt;Timeout&gt;
[ more stuff deleted]

I ran ktrace to log the system calls, and found that the second write of 
1024 bytes at 02:42:46.69 was interrupted due to SIGALRM. 
Class1Modem::sendTCF() calls Class1Modem::transmitData(), which in turn 
calls Class1Modem::sendClass1Data() with a timeout of 
Class1Modem::getDataTimeout() ms. However, as far as I can tell, dataTimeout 
hasn't been initialized yet: the only call to setDataTimeout() in 
Class1Send.c++ is in Class1Modem::sendTraining(), and that's only done after 
the call to sendTCF().

Some extra logging in ModemServer::startTimeout() confirms it:

Nov 07 03:34:19.80: [21626]: &lt;-- [11:AT+FTM=145\r]
Nov 07 03:34:19.80: [21626]: startTimeout(30000)
Nov 07 03:34:19.80: [21626]: startTimeout(30000)
Nov 07 03:34:19.81: [21626]: startTimeout(30000)
Nov 07 03:34:21.28: [21626]: --&gt; [7:CONNECT]
Nov 07 03:34:21.28: [21626]: &lt;-- data [1024]
Nov 07 03:34:21.28: [21626]: startTimeout(1040910381272731340)
Nov 07 03:34:21.28: [21626]: &lt;-- data [2]
Nov 07 03:34:21.29: [21626]: startTimeout(1040910381272731340)
Nov 07 03:34:21.81: [21626]: Problem sending TCF data

While I didn't see a maximum timeout mentioned in NetBSD's documentation for 
setitimer(), apparently trying to set a timeout of 33 million years doesn't 
work properly, and it raises SIGALRM almost immediately, interrupting the 
write().


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</description>
    <dc:creator>Dave Huang</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-07T20:21:16</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8185">
    <title>Re: hylafax/libhylafax update now available</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8185</link>
    <description>2008/9/30 Aidan Van Dyk &lt;aidan&lt; at &gt;ifax.com&gt;:


This goes back to the age old question, should "users" have *any*
control over the tagline (or TSI) at all.  If you go up to your local
fax machine, do you change the TSI and tagline before you send every
fax?

And now that jobcontrol makes it so easy for an admin to do anything
special for/based on  a user...

And remember that the "Admin" has the legal liability as to the
TSI/Tagline transmitted as well...

Now that I've fixed the accounting, so skipped pages don't appear in
xferfaxlog, I'm of the opinion that "skipped pages" should *always* be
counted...  But that may be because the use of page ranges I've had in
mind (resubmitting faxes using range to only include a few pages).

So I don't see the "CountSkippedPages" as a knob that generally would
be used (like most of the knobs we provide).  If you're skipping pages
of something, then likely your cover page should say that.

But somebody, somewhere might like to not have the counted...


Skipped pages are now no longer included in xferfaxlog, and notify has
access to all the numbers, total pages, skipped pages, etc.

</description>
    <dc:creator>Aidan Van Dyk</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-10-01T20:46:07</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8184">
    <title>hylafax/faxd update now available</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8184</link>
    <description>Update of /usr/local/cvsroot/hylafax/faxd
In directory cvs.hylafax.org:/tmp/cvs-serv15748/faxd

Modified Files:
ModemConfig.c++ 
Log Message:
Whitespace cleanup


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</description>
    <dc:creator>aidan&lt; at &gt;cvs.hylafax.org</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-10-01T20:43:25</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8183">
    <title>hylafax/faxd update now available</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8183</link>
    <description>Update of /usr/local/cvsroot/hylafax/faxd
In directory cvs.hylafax.org:/tmp/cvs-serv15072/faxd

Modified Files:
FaxSend.c++ 
Log Message:
faxsend: Don't count skipped pages as transmitted in xferfaxlog accounting

Including skipped pages (especially when large documetns are "Reprocessed"
to send a page or two can really throw off reports based on xferfaxlog,
such as xferfaxstats.


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    <dc:date>2008-10-01T20:21:05</dc:date>
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    <title>hylafax/man update now available</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8182</link>
    <description>Update of /usr/local/cvsroot/hylafax/man
In directory cvs.hylafax.org:/tmp/cvs-serv14629/man

Modified Files:
hylafax-config.4f 
Log Message:
Track skipped pages and cover pages

Setting TagLineCoverNumString implies that you *don't* want to include
the cover pages in the normal page numbering.  The tagline page numbers
will adjusted to not count the cover pages, and instead of using the
page number of the cover page, the set string will used instead.


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    <dc:date>2008-10-01T20:06:52</dc:date>
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    <title>hylafax/faxd update now available</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8181</link>
    <description>Update of /usr/local/cvsroot/hylafax/faxd
In directory cvs.hylafax.org:/tmp/cvs-serv14629/faxd

Modified Files:
Class1.h Class1Send.c++ Class2.h Class20.c++ Class20.h 
Class2Ersatz.c++ Class2Ersatz.h Class2Send.c++ FaxModem.c++ 
FaxModem.h FaxRequest.c++ FaxRequest.h FaxSend.c++ FaxServer.h 
ModemConfig.c++ ModemConfig.h TagLine.c++ faxQueueApp.c++ 
faxSendApp.c++ faxSendApp.h mkhash.c 
Log Message:
Track skipped pages and cover pages

Setting TagLineCoverNumString implies that you *don't* want to include
the cover pages in the normal page numbering.  The tagline page numbers
will adjusted to not count the cover pages, and instead of using the
page number of the cover page, the set string will used instead.


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    <title>hylafax/man update now available</title>
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    <description>Update of /usr/local/cvsroot/hylafax/man
In directory cvs.hylafax.org:/tmp/cvs-serv14392/man

Modified Files:
sendfax.1 
Log Message:
Track cover pages in page range handling

Making the "page range" be inclusive of everything is problematic, since
continuation cover pages can "change" the pages of a document.  This
tracks cover pages, and makes the page-range handling exlude cover pages
from it's range handling.


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    <dc:date>2008-10-01T20:03:40</dc:date>
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    <title>hylafax/faxd update now available</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8179</link>
    <description>Update of /usr/local/cvsroot/hylafax/faxd
In directory cvs.hylafax.org:/tmp/cvs-serv14392/faxd

Modified Files:
FaxRequest.c++ FaxRequest.h faxQueueApp.c++ mkhash.c 
Log Message:
Track cover pages in page range handling

Making the "page range" be inclusive of everything is problematic, since
continuation cover pages can "change" the pages of a document.  This
tracks cover pages, and makes the page-range handling exlude cover pages
from it's range handling.


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    <dc:date>2008-10-01T20:03:39</dc:date>
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    <title>hylafax/faxd update now available</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8178</link>
    <description>Update of /usr/local/cvsroot/hylafax/faxd
In directory cvs.hylafax.org:/tmp/cvs-serv14322/faxd

Modified Files:
faxQueueApp.c++ 
Log Message:
Cleanup pagehandling/skip in faxq


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    <dc:date>2008-10-01T20:03:24</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: hylafax/libhylafax update now available</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8177</link>
    <description>* Lee Howard &lt;faxguy&lt; at &gt;howardsilvan.com&gt; [080930 19:13]:
 

Yes, that's more common than I would like..  Unfortunately...  And the
times it does, it's usually in the middle of a long document, and
"users" seldom have the tools to easily pull pages out of a longer
document ;-( ;-( ;-(

In the wild we see recievers without ECM, who get single bad pages in
the midst of many acceptable pages...


This patch currently supports that.  At least if page numbering in the
tagline uses "page number of job" instead of just "page number".


Ya, I'm currently working on cleaning up that accounting a bit.  My
thoughts recently is that the tagline counting and "accounting" counting
need to be seperated from eachother.  For more reasons just that (think
continuation cover pages).


Well, that's why there was the "Count Skipped Pages", which was supposed
to make those pages "just disappear" instead of be counted as having a
0:00 time.  But that turned out to be a bit inflexible.


The other thing your missing is that the ranges also get buggered on
continuation cover pages ;-)  I've got something in the back burner to
fix that (and the accounting bit), but I keep getting interrupted with
"other work" ;-(

Hopefully tomorrow will leave me a chance to finish that up...

a.


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    <dc:date>2008-10-01T01:19:44</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: hylafax/libhylafax update now available</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.devel/8176</link>
    <description>
Okay, certainly this page range thing is kind of cool... say I have a 
document and I want to send pages 1, 3, 5, 7, and 9-12.  So, it's cool, 
but I have a hard time envisioning the practical purpose behind its 
coolness.  I do see a purpose in, perhaps, skipping some initial pages 
in a situation where maybe it was able to send those initial pages in a 
previous job (and then failed).

Is it for the case where the receiver may contact the sender and say, 
"Hey, I can't read pages 4-5 and pages 10-11.  Can you resend just those 
pages?"  Does that happen often enough that a user will employ the feature?

And certainly for such a purpose the user may want to ensure that the 
tagline page counting, etc., reflect that of the original and not the 
resend.

But, to put the decision of whether or not to include those skipped 
pages on the tagline counts in the hands of the modem configuration 
instead of in the hands of the client (who requested the skipping) seems 
misguided.

And then to actually account for those pages as being sent in 00:00 in 
xferfaxlog seems a sure-fire way to work against xferfaxstats 
credibility and the pages-sent information reported back by notify.

I haven't read through the entire set of related code changes.  Am I 
missing something?

Thanks,

Lee.


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    <dc:date>2008-09-30T23:12:41</dc:date>
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