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Re: Scroll arrows changed

Mike Detlefsen — 2008-11-22T22:16:46

I’ve been a Newton owner since 1994, and I‘m still finding out things I didn’t know, heh. Mike ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://www.newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://www.splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://www.splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ====================================================================

Re: Scroll arrows changed

Grant Hutchinson — 2008-11-22T21:44:58

On 22-Nov-08, at 2:32 PM, Mike Detlefsen wrote: You're right about that. They just mention it in passing alongside the information about rotating the screen. Glad you got it all figured out. g. ...................................................................... Grant Hutchinson Interface Considerations & Feature Deprecation Design: http://www.veer.com/ Weblog: http://www.splorp.com/ Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/splorp/ ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://www.newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://www.splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://www.splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ====================================================================

Re: Scroll arrows changed

Mike Detlefsen — 2008-11-22T21:32:51

Yeah, I spent some time looking through the manual and didn’t see that. I would have thought there would be an index entry that would be helpful, but I didn’t find one. Thanks. Mike Grant Hutchinson wrote: ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://www.newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://www.splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://www.splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ====================================================================

Re: Scroll arrows changed

Mike Detlefsen — 2008-11-22T21:26:14

Yep. That fixed it. I’d gone to landscape mode and switched the entire button bar from side to side, but it didn’t occur to me to try that in portrait mode. Thanks. Mike kosmicdollop< at >saber.net wrote: ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://www.newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://www.splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://www.splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ====================================================================

Re: Scroll arrows changed

Grant Hutchinson — 2008-11-22T21:14:37

On 22-Nov-08, at 11:04 AM, Mike Detlefsen wrote: You can change which side the scroll arrows appear on by tapping the 'Rotate' button in the Extras Drawer. http://twitpic.com/ndtb This information can be found in chapter five of the MessagePad 2x00 User Manual. http://www.unna.org/unna/apple/documentation/2x00/2100UsersManual.pdf Cheers. g. ...................................................................... Grant Hutchinson Interface Considerations & Feature Deprecation Design: http://www.veer.com/ Weblog: http://www.splorp.com/ Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/splorp/ ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://www.newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://www.splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://www.splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ====================================================================

Re: Scroll arrows changed

2008-11-22T20:53:18

Thanks so much for writing! I just re-discovered one can have arrows on either side button bar: Open Extras and tap rotate, select which side you want. B On 22/11/08, Mike Detlefsen wrote: | ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://www.newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://www.splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://www.splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ====================================================================

Re: Error code 77 and other MP 130 fun

Scott Hoffman — 2008-11-22T20:44:53

Thanks, that seemed to cure my 130's ills - having some problems getting the Serial 115200 package working again - will try to delete and reinstall. Card and all packages on it are working great now too. So far so good! *fingers crossed!* Thanks again! Scott ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://www.newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://www.splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://www.splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ====================================================================

Re: Error code 77 and other MP 130 fun

Scott Hoffman — 2008-11-22T19:25:04

Oops, skipped a couple steps - will try again and post results. Thanks! :) ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://www.newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://www.splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://www.splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ====================================================================

Re: Error code 77 and other MP 130 fun

Scott Hoffman — 2008-11-22T19:21:06

Here's today's issue... got it reset and removed the storage card. Seemed to work fine. Issue must have been one of the packages I'd installed on it. Installed the Serial115200 package using NewTen and got it set up to connect using NCX. Tried to browse for packages to install on the Newton end and it froze. Nothing seemed to get it "un-frozen" so I had to pull the battery. Newt won't power on now... not using batteries, not using AC adapter, not using battery booster pack... so I've removed the "AA" batteries and am going to leave it a while... will try later to reset. I don't know if it's my timing or what but the simple act of resetting the thing seems to be more difficult than the instructions reveal... I press reset and hold it, turn power switch on, and release the reset button after a couple of seconds. Doesn't seem to work as smoothly as it should. Works fine on my MP 120B. More to come. Thanks for your time. Scott On Nov 22, 2008, at 9:31 AM, Grant Hutchinson wrote: ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://www.newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://www.splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://www.splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ====================================================================

Scroll arrows changed

Mike Detlefsen — 2008-11-22T18:04:21

I noticed today on my upgraded MP 2000 that my scroll arrows have switched sides, now being on the left hand side of the button bar. I haven’t installed any new software for years, so I can’t blame it on that. Any ideas on how to switch them back? I just spent several hours searching here and on the web without any helpful results. I have BB Editor 1.7 installed, if that helps. Mike ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://www.newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://www.splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://www.splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ====================================================================

Re: emate upgrades on ebay

Grant Hutchinson — 2008-11-22T17:36:27

On 18-Nov-08, at 8:57 AM, Charles Mangin wrote: The original auction has ended and been replaced by this one: http://xrl.us/ox4ub Currently three modules left. g. ...................................................................... Grant Hutchinson Interface Considerations & Feature Deprecation Design: http://www.veer.com/ Weblog: http://www.splorp.com/ Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/splorp/ ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://www.newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://www.splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://www.splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ====================================================================

Re: Error code 77 and other MP 130 fun

Grant Hutchinson — 2008-11-22T17:31:40

Here's a direct link to the appropriate section of the FAQ: http://www.splorp.com/newton/faq/newton-faq-nos.html#IIIB2e g. ...................................................................... Grant Hutchinson Interface Considerations & Feature Deprecation Design: http://www.veer.com/ Weblog: http://www.splorp.com/ Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/splorp/ ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://www.newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://www.splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://www.splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ====================================================================

Re: Third-party books?

Grant Hutchinson — 2008-11-22T17:12:30

On 17-Nov-08, at 8:39 AM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: Most of the third-party books that I'm aware of were programming related, specifically: Basic for the Newton: Programming for the Newton with NS Basic By John Schettino and Liz O'Hara Published by Academic Press, 1995 ISBN 9780126239553 Programming for the Newton Using Macintosh By Julie McKeehan and Neil Rhodes Published by Academic Press, 1994 (1st Edition), 1996 (2nd Edition) ISBN 9780124848320 Programming for the Newton Using Windows By Julie McKeehan and Neil Rhodes Published by Academic Press, 1997 ISBN 9780124848306 Advanced Programming for the Newton By Julie McKeehan Published by Academic Press, 1997 ISBN 9780124848368 Wireless for the Newton: Software Development for Mobile Communications By Julie McKeehan and Neil Rhodes Published by Academic Press, 1995 ISBN 9780124848016 However, there is at least one related to actually using a Newton, albeit a first generation version: Newton's Law: A Digital Nomad's Guide By Andrew Gore and Mitch Ratcliffe Published by Random House, 1993 ISBN 9780679746478 I hope this helps. g. ...................................................................... Grant Hutchinson Interface Considerations & Feature Deprecation Design: http://www.veer.com/ Weblog: http://www.splorp.com/ Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/splorp/ ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://www.newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://www.splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://www.splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ====================================================================

Re: MP3 Rate?

Grant Hutchinson — 2008-11-22T16:38:52

On 21-Nov-08, at 1:55 PM, Jon Glass wrote: I've had success with 56k mono MP3 files, both stored locally on a card and streamed from my web server. What work's well is finding a 56k or lower stream and listen continuously. Listening to individual MP3s definitely causes more freezing. g. ...................................................................... Grant Hutchinson Interface Considerations & Feature Deprecation Design: http://www.veer.com/ Weblog: http://www.splorp.com/ Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/splorp/ ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://www.newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://www.splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://www.splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ====================================================================

Re: Blue iMac

Woody Smith — 2008-11-22T16:36:43

OS 9 will allow you to copy it. An external firewire drive would be my choice as it will also serve as startup drive if needed. USB on these early models was slow and did not support being a startup drive. The System folder will contain the system and finder as well as most resources as well as preferences for applications. A few such as Mozilla keep their prefs. in their own folder. Most applications will be either stand alone or have themselves and their needed resources in a folder by the same name Registrations for protected software is in the system folder. I would simply copy the contents to an external drive by opening the HD and dragging each item/icon to the new drive. Woody On Nov 22, 2008, at 12:33 AM, Tony Kan wrote: ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://www.newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://www.splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://www.splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ====================================================================

Re: SNP and Nitch

Morgan Aldridge — 2008-11-22T13:17:23

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:56 AM, Mr Jonathan Dueck yahoo.com> wrote: Definitely submit a bug report to Eckhart's Sourceforge project and drop him an email. I believe he actively uses Nitch himself, so you're likely to get that fixed in a reasonable amount of time. Morgan Aldridge --- morgant< at >makkintosshu.com http://www.makkintosshu.com/ ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://www.newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://www.splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://www.splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ====================================================================

Re: Blue iMac

Lord Groundhog — 2008-11-22T11:48:31

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Re: Blue iMac

Jon Glass — 2008-11-22T06:51:04

Mac OS9 came with its own in the help section. I don't know how good it was, as I never used Windows, but I remember seeing it there. :-)

Blue iMac

Tony Kan — 2008-11-22T06:33:59

Hi Folks Just looking at a blue iMac but haven't used a Mac since the Classic days (circa 1989?). I've been Googling for a switchers guide for Windows Users to Mac OS 9 but can't find anything. Plenty for OS X. Does any one know of any resources out there? How does one create restore disks for it as it came from a school with no CDs for the OS and if the hard drive died.... Thanks in advance Tony ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://www.newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://www.splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://www.splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ====================================================================

Re: SNP and Nitch

Mr Jonathan Dueck — 2008-11-22T05:56:53

Update: I don't think the problem in viewing my tasks has to do with SNP. I tried removing it and the identical problem occurred--tasks I'd marked that were missing in the overview. I think the problem has to do with Nitch's scrolling behavior. When I open my tasks using "Projects" to organize the view, the counter on the bottom reads "1/35". There are 14 next actions on the page. Then I scroll down--ought to be a "15" right? But the counter reads "22/35" and indeed, the next actions that would occupy the "15-21" slots can't be seen. If I sort by "Action," I see the same scrolling behavior, but (of course, because it's sorted differently) different tasks appear, including some that I was missing on the other screen. Moral? I suspect it's _just_ a viewing problem, no data being lost. Which is comforting! But it does limit the usefulness of Nitch for me at the moment. Any ideas for fixes or workarounds would be most welcome! Best, Jon ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://www.newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://www.splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://www.splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ====================================================================

SNP and Nitch

Mr Jonathan Dueck — 2008-11-22T04:15:14

Hi, folks, I'm back,enjoying my newish Newt 2000. In a fit of enthusiasm, I transferred all of my GTD projects and todos into Nitch and the Project Stationery it installs. So far so good! But I use Standalone's Super Notepad 1.87. First, this caused odd formatting in the Notepad--text / buttons appear behind SNP's arrows / etc buttons at the top of the display--with Nitch is installed. Unless Nitch is loaded after SNP (i.e. freeze Nitch, reset, thaw Nitch = beautiful Notepad display back)--so, a workaround. Secondly and a little more disturbingly, I was unable to access one of my Nitch projects (in the Projects folder, which I've got Nitch watching). I could see it in the overview, but if I tapped its title there, I arrived at an adjacent note. Scrolling brought me to the note on its other side. Moving the notes adjacent to it, using SNP's Move Note function, simply changed which two adjacent notes I saw. Fearing data corruption, I deleted the offending project and restored it from a text-only X-Port (which exports Projects as txt checklists), copying and pasting text in from the Checklist X-Port produced. Now one more oddity:when I open Nitch, it does not display all of the active next actions from my Projects. Stranger, it displays a different set of such actions when I sort the Nitch view by Actions or Projects. Anybody else have experience using Nitch and SNP together? Think this is an incompatibility I'm discovering, or just data corruption's aftermath on my Newt? Best, Jon ==================================================================== The NewtonTalk Mailing List - http://www.newtontalk.net/ The Official Newton FAQ - http://www.splorp.com/newton/faq/ The Newton Glossary - http://www.splorp.com/newton/glossary/ WikiWikiNewt - http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/ ====================================================================