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Re: Thank you very much!

Sylvia Sánchez — 2012-03-15T17:53:28

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Jeffrey Deutsch — 2012-03-15T04:00:35

Hello,

Some time back, I posted asking for advice with OpenOffice.org's
Impress. I just wanted to thank all of you for your help - my
presentation was a huge success!

Keep up the good work!

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Re: Windows 8

John Boyle — 2012-03-15T18:13:23

To all: I have attended a class on the present version of Windows 8 and  
I'm not impressed with it at all, no more than I was with Vista which I 
didn't buy either! I think Microsoft has made a big mistake, because 
Windows 8, at least as it now stands, restricts your computer, which has 
to be updated anyway with touch screen capability, to only that OS. You 
cannot dual boot, for instance, and if you have legacy programs you 
can't use them. At least, as of now, anyway.:-)

Re: Thank you very much!

Bruce_Martin — 2012-03-15T06:44:15

Dear Jeff:

I also have used Oo for presentations during the 4 years I was in 
Toastmasters.

At that time I was using it on an XT platform.

Since the purchase of Sun by Oracle, I have gone to LibreOffice, but 
much is the same.

I also use LibO on Fedora 16, and with double screens on my laptop, I 
use the external screen for the audience (or it could equally be a 
projector) and the Laotop screen for the speaker's screen.

When I use my presenter, both screens change in synchronism. On the 
speaker's screen there are 3 parts:

1) is a small image of the image on the audience screen, so I can see 
where that is at without the need to turn my back to the audience.

2) is a similar image, but of the next screen to come up.

3) is a larger window with the annotatons (AKA "teleprompter"). This is 
a real help if the content of the speech/presentation is complex. Also 
it can speed getting back on track if you have an unexpected audience 
distraction.

One more thing I have seen a great and too often neglected need for:

Wherever in a speech or presentation, the content is dependent on the 
audience grasping the interrelations between a complex (often 
circumstantial) arrangement of interacting concepts, especially if those 
concepts are abstract ones, I have developped a strategy based on Draw.

I call this "organnigrammes". Organnigrammes is simply the French word 
for  flowcharts. I used the French word in English to infer a 
distinction between traditional flowcharts and what I have done.

First, I downloaded a simple screen of traditional flowchart symbols 
from the web.

I then vectorised them and thence made variations of my vectorisations 
to represent added "Graphic vocabulary" to the project.

More recently, I had to add symbols for the Boolean algebra concepts, 
AND, OR, NOT.

For this, being an electronic technician, I vectorised they symbols used 
for AND and OR gates, added the little circle when a negation or 
inversion was needed, added text labels inside, and there it was.

I also had created symbols to indicate reiterative loops and a few more.

Aside from technical presentations, I see this as being a practical way 
to efficiently document and communicate personality sketches between 
managers, HR people and psychologists.

(Note the ethical considerations are independent of the tools, as only 
humans can make such moral judgements, thus abrogating any such 
complaints that could be made against the tools rather than the user's 
use of them.)

Since I save all the vectorised pieces in all the Draw work I do, they 
add ongoing to my working library.

I also have a lot of tricks I use to do the tasks that a true CAD app 
would do better, and Draw does not do directly.

Note that scale is a setting of Draw, not the .ODG file, so it may be 
expedient to have an extra page at the end for scraps and annotations of 
such items as scale and grid settings used for each file.

To me the biggest caveat is that Draw has a math accuracy limit of only 
about 3 decimal places, rather than, say 12 for a true CAD app. 
Therefore in some cases I have to use a callout to show exact dims.

This may help some out there who do presentations.


On 3/15/2012 00:31, Jeffrey Deutsch wrote:

Thank you very much!

Jeffrey Deutsch — 2012-03-15T04:31:55

Hello,

Some time back, I posted asking for advice with OpenOffice.org's
Impress. I just wanted to thank all of you for your help - my
presentation was a huge success!

Keep up the good work!

Jeff Deutsch
Speaker & Life Coach
A SPLINT - ASPies LInking with NTs
http://www.asplint.com

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Re: Windows 8

Bruce Martin — 2012-03-15T04:22:40

Dear Kay:

Thanks for your reply.

I will have to search AOO on my available Linux repositories to see what 
they come up with.

to me, the main reason so many went from Oo th LibO is because when 
Oracle bought out sun, people were afraid that Oo would (figuratively) 
become "less open". I tend to feel that a main open source app of this 
importance should be a true .ORG with no possibility of being used as a 
"front" (i.e. repeated enticement) to get people to go for paid 
products. Ads on the side of the web page just enough to pay for the 
site, is one thing, but I think more than that, many people are silently 
fearful of too much commercial aggressiveness, direct or indirect.

Actually my background is more industrial electronics and heavy industry 
than true IT. Now retired, I tend to make some gadgets myself from 
scratch, or near scratch, especially if, by doing so I can have added 
benefits from them in terms of:

-    durability
-    interchangeability
-    home shop repairability
-    other features not available on the market, especially if I think 
those features are ones that the market may be reluctant to make 
available, possibly because they would be "market busters" and 
jeopardise the sales of existing products.

I have been doing this for decades, and some of these items have been in 
service for as much as 40 years. I also make some of my own tools.

Out of the box? Yes!

Best Regards, all

Bruce M.
On 3/14/2012 18:58, Kay Schenk wrote:

Re: Windows 8

Kay Schenk — 2012-03-14T22:58:50


Bruce and other Linux users --

You can, of course, install AOO on your own...

Developer builds are available now and Apache OpenOffice would love to hear
from you.

See "Testing Developer Installation Sets" on the Source page...

http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/source.html

Re: Windows 8

Bruce Martin — 2012-03-14T20:03:09

¡Hola! Luiz y todos:

This is interesting because the last comments I had bumped into in 
regards to win 8 were much more negative.

We will see how it goes.

At present, I am using a combination of XP and Fedora (32 and 64 bit).

LibO comes by default with Fedora 32 or 64 bit, Version 15 and up.

There is a whole new system every 6 months.

Best Regards,

Bruce M.

On 3/14/2012 10:11, Luis E Vásquez r wrote:

Windows 8

Luis E Vásquez r — 2012-03-14T14:11:18

Medellín, marzo 14 de  2012

Hello, friends

I've been testing intensively the latest versions of Libre Office 3.5. X
and the version of Apache developers, known as AOO 3.4. both  in  Windows
environment 8 (previous version user) and the results obtained with both
products have been fairly regular,stable and also very good level of
performance
(Libo 3.5 Rc2  bit slow).

In general the result has been satisfactory. I will keep in the operation of
 both tests and I will tell later.

Best Regards,Cordialmente,
Luis E. Vásquez R.

OpenOffice.org/Libre Office  Volunteer & Support
Este mensaje  se ha enviado desde Medellín, Colombia
*13 Años usando exitosamente OpenOffice.org/Libre Office  libre, seguro y
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Re: Information

Anthony Chilco — 2012-03-12T19:35:06

Hello Benjamin,
Everyone is free to use openoffice in any environment. You can read the license here:
http://www.openoffice.org/license.html
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about licensing OpenOffice. Can we use OpenOffice in a company legaly, or we
need to buy license for it. I need this info rmation
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Benjamin Kovacevic — 2012-03-12T09:27:25

Dear Mr./Ms.,

 

I need information about licensing OpenOffice. Can we use OpenOffice in a
company legaly, or we need to buy license for it. I need this information
fast. 

 

Thank you on understanding.

 

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Re: Open office quit enexpectedly

Kay Schenk — 2012-03-08T22:39:20

Molly--
Can you tell use what version you were trying to install? If you can
provide the complete URL (location and complete name of the install file)
this would help. And more about your specific Mac platform.

Really, it would also be VERY helpful if you could file an "issue" on this
through BugZilla, the bug reporting system.

The link for this is:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/enter_bug.cgi

You will need to register for an account first, however. Once you do this,
please choose the "installation" category, choose the version you were
trying to install (otherwise just leave the default), change the platform
to Mac, then fill out the rest and submit.

Open office quit enexpectedly

Molly Uridil — 2012-03-07T21:21:09

I have installed OpenOffice on my Mac and it won't allow me to open it.  An error message keeps popping up that OpenOffice.org<http://OpenOffice.org> quit unexpectedly. I try to click to reopen and the error pops up again.  I have reinstalled it and it still pops up with the error.  How do I go about fixing this problem.

Thank You

Molly Uridil
Sutton Public Schools
muridil< at >spsne.org<mailto:muridil< at >spsne.org>

Re: document

Joep L. Blom — 2012-03-07T22:18:48

Mr. Minczeles,
Vor uw informatie: dit is een " alleen Engels" mail-lijst. Bovendien 
wordt hij binnen enkele weken opgeheven.
Mijn advies is Libre Office te downloaden:
www.libreoffic< at >e.org/download/
Daarvoor bestaat ook een nederlandse mail lijst: 
users< at >global.libreoffice.org. Het programma is een stuk beter dan de 
oude OpenOffice.
Uit uw vraag begrijp ik dat U Windows gebruikt. Helaas ken ik dat OS 
onvoldoende om een zinnig antwoord te geven.
Met vriendelijke groet,
dr. J.L. Blom (bouwjaar 1938)

newer version of Open Office

Don Mincey — 2012-03-07T14:22:42

Currently have an older version of Open Office 3.3 installed and have tried to install the latest version.  After going thru all the preliminaries and starting the download to my computer ( Windows XP), I get a message that the older version cannot be removed and to contact OO tech support.

What do I need to do?-- 
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document

Ir. R. Minczeles — 2012-03-07T10:24:03

    Beste mensen, ik heb het volgende probleem. Als ik in de Windows Verkenner een OpenOffice-document open wil maken, dan krijg ik het bericht dat ik de daarvoor benodigde bevoegdheden niet heb. Ik ben toch de auteur van het document, de eigenaar en de administrator !! Dit document in OpenOffice te openen, dat geeft echter geen probleem. Ik begrijp het niet.
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Fw: newer version of Open Office

Don Mincey — 2012-03-07T15:28:09

P.S.

I have tried to remove the older version with the add-remove programs, but get a message  "the featere you are trying to use is on a network resource that is unavailable"  and then "Installation files cannot be found"

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Don Mincey 
To: Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:22 AM
Subject: newer version of Open Office

Currently have an older version of Open Office 3.3 installed and have tried to install the latest version.  After going thru all the preliminaries and starting the download to my computer ( Windows XP), I get a message that the older version cannot be removed and to contact OO tech support.

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Re: Reg: Help

Dennis E. Hamilton — 2012-03-05T21:47:22

If you have Excel files that are encrypted with a password, those files cannot be opened by current OpenOffice.org releases under any conditions.

If you have Excel files with protected fields or have a fully-protected (read-only) document, it is true that those Excel files are no longer protected when opened in current OpenOffice.org versions.  (Some protections of Word documents are honored in some releases.)

If this is of critical importance to you, please consider requesting an improvement in the issue tracking (Bugzilla) systems of the Apache OpenOffice project and/or The Document Foundation LibreOffice project, where future versions of OpenOffice-lineage software is being developed.

   <http://www.openoffice.org/qa/issue_handling/pre_submission.html>

   <http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport>


 - Dennis

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: DO NOT ASSUME TOO MUCH

The use of a password to lock the protection of fields or make read-only documents is not a security provision in OpenOffice.org ODF Spreadsheet files (.ods) nor in Excel OOXML (.xslx) and binary (.xsl) files.  It is a safeguard against accidental alteration of fields that should not change for the spreadsheet to work properly.  

Experts can remove, alter, and restore the protection of such fields without knowing the password.  Also, the passwords used are not particularly safe from discovery.  If you have protected fields of documents in Excel or in OpenOffice, please do not use those passwords for more-important purposes.

-----Original Message-----
From: Neeraj Kumar [mailto:neeraj.kumar< at >lavazza.co.in] 
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 21:56
To: users< at >openoffice.org
Cc: 'Prashant.Madollapa'
Subject: [users] Reg: Help

Dear Sir/Madam

I am looking of your Kind guidance In terms of using the Free Open office. I have some query regarding to opening the Ms Office Password protected files into Open office.

When I am opening any Password protected Ms Office Excel files into Open office then we can unprotect it with out asking Password. So in this case we loose the purpose of security.

Is we had any kind of method, in which any password protected files of ms office which we are using into Open office, it should ask the password. Without password it should not allowed to editing the files.

As well as after opening the file into open Office when we are using this file into Ms Office then it will become unprotected while it should ask password.

 

I am Looking of your kind response and help as usual.

 

 

 

Regards

Neeraj Kumar

Reg: Help

Neeraj Kumar — 2012-03-05T05:55:43

Dear Sir/Madam

I am looking of your Kind guidance In terms of using the Free Open office. I
have some query regarding to opening the Ms Office Password protected files
into Open office.

When I am opening any Password protected Ms Office Excel files into Open
office then we can unprotect it with out asking Password. So in this case we
loose the purpose of security.

Is we had any kind of method, in which any password protected files of ms
office which we are using into Open office, it should ask the password.
Without password it should not allowed to editing the files.

As well as after opening the file into open Office when we are using this
file into Ms Office then it will become unprotected while it should ask
password.

 

I am Looking of your kind response and help as usual.

 

 

 

Regards

Neeraj Kumar

Re: Please note: users< at >openoffice.org list to be retired on March 15th

Charles L. Phillips — 2012-03-02T18:24:17

 
Hello,
Sorry to learn this, but put me on the "NEW" list.
 
Let me know...
 
 
 
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