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[infrastructure-dev] access to the pootle server

Jürgen Schmidt — 2012-03-09T08:22:41

Hi infra structure project,

I am very active in the Apache OpenOffice project and I would like to 
become more active in the infra structure project as well.

OpenOffice is a huge project and need often support from the infra 
structure team. I think it would be good if we have more project members 
from AOO who can help here. For example at the moment it would be good 
to have more people with direct access to the pootle server and the 
command line tools.

I am currently evaluating in a VM how the AOO related tooling works and 
it would be very good if somebody could support me afterwards to setup 
the AOO pootle with the appropriate and correct data that we can start.

Translation is a very critical and important part for the long term 
success of AOO. And a strong part where we always had a good and vibrant 
community in the past. I would like to do everything that translation 
for Apache projects will be easy and smooth and that we can build a 
huger translation community.

Regards

Juergen

[infrastructure-dev] new Apache mailing list to replace this list

2011-10-28T22:38:37

[infrastructure-dev] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

Hirano Kazunari — 2011-09-28T11:17:27

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[infrastructure-dev] Re: Apache incubator project created on 6/13/2011

Louis Suarez-Potts — 2011-06-21T00:01:26

Hi all,

On 2011-06-20, at 18:01 , Kay Schenk wrote:


I wish I could. It's not that I don't want to. It's that I, at least, don't have the information I'd like. At some point, Oracle has stated on the Apache list, the domain (and I suppose all its wriggling guts) will be moved over. I doubt it will be a transplant, as I'd imagine that we all will take the opportunity to engage in productive pruning. But… yes. We are big, vaster than empires, more slow, and so on and so forth.

Keep your hats on, participate in the Apache discussions, and be there.

Louis

[infrastructure-dev] Re: possible change to current home page?

Louis Suarez-Potts — 2011-06-22T02:03:39

Hi,

On 2011-06-21, at 19:04 , Grzegorz Rajda wrote:


These are fine and fit in with the general Marketing and Why? pages. But do keep in mind, as Kay has indicated, that we are in transition mode right now and that the endpoint toward which we are heading is quit unclear. 

For instance, I'm not at all sure what will happen to the existing lists and virtual hosts; to OOo as a website at all.

Clearly, from my perspective, there will have to be a continuation of a customer-facing (user-facing) element that poses the faq you itemize and answers them. And having that ready to go is a great idea, as we can leverage what we already have.

But I don't know when all "this" will be ready.

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[infrastructure-dev] Re: possible change to current home page?

Grzegorz Rajda — 2011-06-21T23:04:38

Ok, I write to this mailing-list.

Backing to You proposal, I need to tell You about 3 sections:
- Program navigation (Download, Support, extensions, etc., main at the 
moment)
- News about program code (based on changelog summary (not-available))
- News from program world (community, non-development news etc.[exists 
in the right col])

Base questions from potential users:
- Why OOo?
- Why I need new version?
- How I can go to OOo from MS Office (auto-conversion-tool needed),
^ My organisation use MS Office. I try to contribute with other company. 
I can use ODF quick and authomatic?
^ I have small 5 person company. Why I should use OOo? Price? No! This 
receive me money from tax.
etc.

Our main page shold have:
- base native program presentation
- news from developers
- news from program world
- easy navigation (not 10000 projects, but download, screenshots, help, 
etc.)
- mirrors in must popularity hostings,
- builtin libraries for must popularity development languages,
- no borders (We need to create support for ASP, .NET and etc)

What you think about that?

[infrastructure-dev] Re: possible change to current home page?

Kay Schenk — 2011-06-21T22:07:30

Hi Grzegorz--

On 06/21/2011 03:00 PM, Grzegorz Rajda wrote:

I think MUCH of what you're proprosing/wanting to discuss MIGHT be 
taking place on the new "developer" list see

http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html

I have NOT subscribed myself but please do so, and/or look at the 
archives for the "developer" list. This is a stark contrast (right now 
anyway) to the many specialized mailing lists on the OO.o site. However, 
those are still operable but we (??) don't know for how long.

Generally,  the points you make here are well taken. Perhaps a new, 
easier to use structure is what is being talked about on the new list. 
Just from a quick review, there is a LOT of discussion going on.

Anyway, I will take your advice and just go ahead and make this change 
and a quick one to the News page as well. I just feel if we want to 
continue as a cohesive open source project, we need to INFORM better. 
Although I know about the proposed handoff by Oracle to the ASF, I did 
not know it had been done. I accidentally tripped over this.

thanks for your response. On your comments, I'm not well-versed enough 
in what is happening RIGHT NOW to comment further.

Please join the new developer mailing list and get involved so we can 
all look forward to our 20th birthday! :)

[infrastructure-dev] Re: possible change to current home page?

Grzegorz Rajda — 2011-06-21T22:00:16

Good evening,

For all people OOo was a death project. In first review You proposal 
haven't changes, then You can do it, without request for aproval (I'm 
think).

Last changes in infrastructure (Oracle, LibreOffice etc.) needs from us 
new goals to create reborn release of OOo. I have some ideas and proposals.

1. Easy structure:
- one page in native languages (auto-detect language, use right strings)
- one repository for code (if somebody can commit, they can do something 
for whole source code, one method, without individual keys)
- one bug-tracker for any language with bugs merging (developers who 
know english and navive lang should merge bug reports.)
- one code, one standard, one development guide for everyone. (should 
have specification of interface planing/create and programming)

Result:
- openoffice.org - in native language direct
- openoffice.org - easy to use one support (language automatic)
- openoffice.org - have only required and optional files in source code 
repository
- openoffice.org - have easy to contribute web interface (for example 
for translating [web, help, etc.])
- openoffice.org - easy to programmers contribution,
- openoffice.org - is best than MS Office in all releases!

2. In future:
- every day we have new developers
- every day we have more optimized algorithms
- every day we have best closed standards reverse engineering
- every day we have more happy users
- every day we win in all categories with our competition!

We can do it together! How You think?

[infrastructure-dev] possible change to current home page?

Kay Schenk — 2011-06-21T21:03:00

Folks--

I would like to replace the current OO.o home page with this one

http://www.openoffice.org/index_new.html

so we could get information out to folks who continue to navigate to the 
existing site.

thoughts? comments? I took out the 3.3 availability item

And...we should probably do a quick edit of the News page as well

my first foray into SVN --- wheee! :)

[infrastructure-dev] Re: Apache incubator project created on 6/13/2011

Kay Schenk — 2011-06-21T16:08:24


On 06/21/2011 08:31 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote:

OK, thanks. I will do this...

[infrastructure-dev] Re: Apache incubator project created on 6/13/2011

Raphael Bircher — 2011-06-21T15:31:12

Hi Kai and others

Yes, we talk at the moment over the migration to apache. Ta ASF has 
there owen infrastructure project. But first you have to become a apache 
commiter. We have always a podling site and a mailing list on the apache 
project. Please read 
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html to 
subscribe it.

Make a short introduction about your self and the work can go on.

Greetings Raphael

To subscribe:

Am 21.06.11 17:05, schrieb Kay Schenk:

[infrastructure-dev] Re: Apache incubator project created on 6/13/2011

Kay Schenk — 2011-06-21T15:05:39

Hi Lous....

OK, will do and thanks for the update. So confusing....

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts <luispo< at >gmail.com>wrote:

[infrastructure-dev] Re: Apache incubator project created on 6/13/2011

Louis Suárez-Potts — 2011-06-21T00:00:23

Hi all,

On 2011-06-20, at 18:01 , Kay Schenk wrote:


I wish I could. It's not that I don't want to. It's that I, at least, don't have the information I'd like. At some point, Oracle has stated on the Apache list, the domain (and I suppose all its wriggling guts) will be moved over. I doubt it will be a transplant, as I'd imagine that we all will take the opportunity to engage in productive pruning. But… yes. We are big, vaster than empires, more slow, and so on and so forth.

Keep your hats on, participate in the Apache discussions, and be there.

Louis

[infrastructure-dev] Apache incubator project created on 6/13/2011

Kay Schenk — 2011-06-20T22:01:00

Folks --

Please see

http://incubator.apache.org/projects/openofficeorg.html

so...what does this mean in terms of the current site -- which is HUGE!

[infrastructure-dev] Serious Extension site problem (Help!)

TJ Frazier — 2011-05-11T19:17:03

Help!

1) Much of the Extensions site is inaccessible, including the "Contact 
Us" link, all giving "Connection reset" error. Hence the message here.

2) The new (2011-05-10) Khmer dictionary extension has bad metadata. 
Writer's automatic extension update shows a new English dictionary 
available, but what downloads is the Khmer dictionary, instead, with bad 
results for hyphenation. The existing English dictionary is lost.

[infrastructure-dev] Re: Changes in the OOoWiki backend

Clayton — 2011-05-04T12:08:42

We are running an older MediaWiki engine (it's not the most current 
release), but I don't think that this is the issue.  Spammers tend to 
blitz in waves.  We've had a long quiet time prior to the current Spam 
wave.  It's quite possible the Wiki is being targeted, but I don't think 
the reasons are related ot any vulnerabilities in the Wiki engine.

C.

[infrastructure-dev] Re: Changes in the OOoWiki backend

Clayton — 2011-05-04T10:50:45

New users can create accounts as usual... it's just that there is a 4 
day period after confirming their account that they cannot edit pages. 
There are no other limitations that I've added... other than the 4 day 
wait, it's the same as before... so don't tell people not to create 
accounts if they need them.

I'm not sure what else we can do here to combat Spam... we've got 
recaptcha, a regex filter for keywords, a bad behavior extension, email 
confitmation, another spam trap extension, and still there is loads of 
SEO link spam.  Lately there has been more spam than legit editing.

If this is too disruptive, I can of course remove the restrictions or 
reduce the wait time.

I'm also open to any other ideas if the community doesn't like this 
solution :-)

C.

[infrastructure-dev] Re: Changes in the OOoWiki backend

Alexandro Colorado — 2011-05-04T10:55:46

I wonder if we are being targeted or maybe is a big vulnerability found on
mediawiki that is now being exploited internetwide by spammers. Have you
check with the security alerts of mediawiki?

[infrastructure-dev] Re: Changes in the OOoWiki backend

Clayton — 2011-05-04T10:52:17

New users can create accounts as usual... it's just that there is a 4 
day period after confirming their account that they cannot edit pages. 
There are no other limitations that I've added... other than the 4 day 
wait, it's the same as before... so don't tell people not to create 
accounts if they need them.

I'm not sure what else we can do here to combat Spam... we've got 
recaptcha, a regex filter for keywords, a bad behavior extension, email 
confitmation, another spam trap extension, and still there is loads of 
SEO link spam.  Lately there has been more spam than legit editing.

If this is too disruptive, I can of course remove the restrictions or 
reduce the wait time.

I'm also open to any other ideas if the community doesn't like this 
solution :-)

C.

[infrastructure-dev] Re: Changes in the OOoWiki backend

Alexandro Colorado — 2011-05-04T10:43:58


Thanks for looking out clayton, should I try to push my users to create
accounts just in case, or should they do the opposite and wait a few days
until they create new accounts?

[infrastructure-dev] Changes in the OOoWiki backend

Clayton — 2011-05-04T07:01:11

There as been a lot of link spam on the OOoWiki the past few days.  I'm 
tired of chasing it, and I imagine the other Admins are too.... so I've 
added some code to the LocalSettings.php file to block all edits and 
page creation to new confirmed accounts.  After a 4 day "cooling off 
period" then the new user accounts will have edit and page creation 
rights.  Hopefully this is long enough that the Spammers get bored and 
leave... but new users come back.

There are very very few new legitimate users compared to spam accounts 
anyway... and of those new legitimate users maybe one per month actually 
edits a page.  The impact of this change on legitimate users should be 
very low.

See: 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Wiki_maintenance/LocalSettings.php_modifications#Block_new_users_from_editing_or_creating_new_pages_for_4_days 
for details of the change.

C.