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Even manual adding of HIDs takes only a few minutes as a one-time operation (how many new dialogs do you write per week?). Yes, I think that this is the right way to go. For the existing src files the removal of auto-HIDs isn't a problem, all files have been converted already. Implementing a new resource format and using it for new UI probably won't take longer than switching the existing code base to string based resource IDs. Regards, Mathias </pre> Mathias Bauer 2010-10-25T07:18:01 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.interface/108 <pre> should have been "org.openoffice.help://*" ... Ciao Frank </pre> Frank Schönheit 2010-10-22T19:19:56 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.interface/107 <pre>Hi Mathias, Which is the ugly part of the (otherwise great) change :-\ If the layout manager, and the XML based dialog format, will not come to our code base soon (Christian??!), it might be worth thinking of another change: replace resource IDs with strings. The advantage (besides getting rid of those ugly .hrc files) would be that the resource compiler could again generate auto-help-ids, e.g. from Dialog "MyCoolDialog" { PushButton "Apply" { ... } }; , it could generate something like "org.openoffice.org://dialogs/&lt;module&gt;/MyCoolDialog" and "org.openoffice.org://dialogs/&lt;module&gt;/MyCoolDialog/Apply" as help IDs/URLs ... Well, yes, having an XML-based resource format, where resource elemtns have string identifiers, too, would remove the need for such a change to the resource compiler ... Ciao Frank </pre> Frank Schönheit 2010-10-22T19:14:14 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.interface/106 <pre> Replace the number by a string, I gave an example on the wiki page. Look at the existing helpid.hrc files, it should be easy to understand. Let's assume you have HelpId = HID_FOO_BAR; in your src file and #define HID_FOO_BAR SC_HID_START+4711 or so in your helpid.hrc file. With the changes in cws changehid this won't compile anymore as the rsc thankfully points developers to all places that still use numbers instead of strings. The easiest way to get your compiled would be to just change the hrc file to #define HID_FOO_BAR "SC_HID_FOO_BAR" (assuming that the file belongs to the sc module). That's all. The same applies if you have code like SetHelpId( HID_FOO_BAR ); If controls shall be accessible to auto tests or help content, they now will need to get a HID assigned explicitly, the auto-HID feature of the resmgr is gone. That's the small price to pay for getting rid of the ridiculous HID compilation process and all the problems related to the use of hid.lst. Do you think that I should explain that more detailed in the wiki? 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