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Re: Is the planned fix still planned?

Cathal Mc Ginley — 2012-05-15T16:21:27

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On Mon, 14 May 2012 20:07:11 +0200
Alfa Omega <mittslaskkonto-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:


I'm not running stock Ubuntu, so I don't know what the new issues are
that prevent Alexandria 0.6.8 (from the PPA) from running on Ubuntu
12.04. 

I guess I'll have to install/update my Ubuntu partition and see what
the issue is. If it's a small problem, it might be a matter of a week
or so. Last time there were dozens of modifications needed. In any
case, I'd like to be able to keep Alexandria ticking over for people.

I'll look into it,

   -   Cathal.
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Re: Is the planned fix still planned?

Ben Armstrong — 2012-05-14T18:32:38

There is apparently an adlibris plugin for Calibre.

Ben

Is the planned fix still planned?

Alfa Omega — 2012-05-14T18:07:11

I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 and I really miss Alexandria. It's my favorite
book collection manager and the only one I've found that works with
adlibris.  Are you still planning to update the software?

Best regards

Chris
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Alexandria PPA / Precise

Kip Warner — 2012-05-09T00:05:02

Hey Cathal,

Ever since I upgraded to Ubuntu Precise (12.04), it's been dreadfully
lonely without your incredible library management software to manage my
collection. Is there any possibility you will update the build recipe at
the Alexandria PPA for a Precise build target?

Take care,

Re: List of Features

Cathal Mc Ginley — 2012-03-21T13:57:15

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On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 12:26:05 +0100
Add User <adduser.org-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Hi, thanks for your interest in these projects. You're just the kind of
user I'm writing Palatina for. In particular, I hope you can help with
user-interface design - even pencil sketches of what the various
windows and dialogs might look like - at some stage in the future.


Yes, I will be concentrating almost exclusively on Palatina in
future. In fact, I've already re-written Palatina from the ground up
again (in a new language, Scala).

I won't be adding any new features to Alexandria, just doing (very)
occasional bugfixes to keep it working until Palatina has an
Alexandria-like user-interface and is ready to release.


Palatina already distinguishes between an Edition, and a Copy of a book.


Agreed. I need to sketch the user-interface for this.


Possible in Palatina, but not yet coded.
 

I have designed Palatina with this idea in mind. ALL properties can be
specific to individual users, not just reviews, notes and reading
status. You can even set your own title for a book that only you
can see.

I haven't thought much about security & privacy for this feature,
though. In the simple case, when Palatina is set up for "home" use, you
could be able to view all properties set by all users, but when it's
set up for "library" use all user-specific properties will be private.


I've improved how thumbnails are handled in Palatina, including
pre-creating thumbnail images in a range of sizes and storing them in
the database. So far, the layout seems to be much more stable.
 

I'm not sure I know what you mean by this point. But Palatina's database
is very flexible and distinguishes between:

 * Work: e.g. "Oliver Twist" by Charles Dickens.

 * Edition: e.g. the "Penguin Classic" edition of "Oliver Twist";
   0141439742

   * Different printings of that edition (perhaps with different cover
     image, but the same ISBN)

 * Copy: any number of physical copies of a particular edition of
   "Oliver Twist"

If an ISBN returns data for several printings, I can download and store
the data (temporarily) and ask the user to choose the correct printing
at any later time. (This is possible, but not yet supported by the
code. Again, I'd need to design the user-interface for this to be easy
for the user.)

I will be using OpenLibrary as a data source, too.


Agreed. I intend to make the data-capture part of Palatina much more
streamlined for rapid (and data-safe) addition of multiple books.
 

I'll check if GIF import is possible. (I think it will be.) Palatina
stores its cover images (and thumbnails) as PNGs in the database. I
don't think SVG will work, though.
 
 
I'll try to be more careful about character encodings. All text will be
stored as UTF-8 in the database, so it's a matter of ensuring the
metadata source character encoding is what we expect.

 

Oops! This is because I was doing small bugfix releases. I'm normally
better about stuff like that. 0.6.8 is the recommended version of
Alexandria.


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List of Features

Add User — 2012-03-18T11:26:05

(First of all excuse for my poor english)

Hello, I am just new in the media library world. Some needs in my life
given me at Alexandria.

I ve been reading the mailing list archive and I consider to rewrite a list
of features already requested and new features.

I also know about project Palatina that have already some features
requested for Alexandria. I don't checked the code (neither Alexandria or
Palatina so I can't tell about features in the code structure, adn I am
aslo not the better analyser -just amateur one-).

So I list the features request and what I seen:

1- Add the possibility to have more than 1 book (palatina capable).

Actually, if you want to add a duplicate ISDN, I think in future the GUI
should ask you if you want to add a copy of the book. And add an option (a
tag or someting) for the user to identify between the copies (imagine the
user put fiscally a letter A for the first copy and a letter B for the
second copy, so the user would set these options in Alexandria, so if he
borrow the copy A, he know that copy B is/should be still somewhere in the
library).

I don't seen the code, but an ugly and fast way should be adding new
file/database only for managing duplicates books.


2- Add the possibility to identify the origin of the book.

Imagine that a friend of a the user borrow him a book, he whould insert
that book in the database and let him know who borrowed it (borrow, gift,
give, whatelse...).

3- Add the possibility of multiple users (reviews, reads, etc).

I don't know about yours family, but in my house we are 6 at home. You can
focus this feature in multiple ways.
For example:

Big familiy at home: you practicaly don't interested in which book is
reading or have readed you brother, but it's possible you want to know the
review of him about the book just reading is review instead of asking him
(he is at this moment at work).

Public Library: normally you don't need to read reviews of others (perhaps
sometimes) but you want to know which reader have any pariculary book, from
which time ago have it, or if they have more than one. Actually you can see
a list of loaned books, but not the name. Public Libraris apps have
noramlly a list of loaned books per users or per total.

Implementation of this is more difficult.

4- View like icons better arrangment of images.

Actually, if you set this view option, if the image is larger than other
ones... you have an ugly des-arranged visualitation. It should be good to
fit images with a predefined width (or something else) to prevent
malformation of the columns.

5- Universal database storage like OpenLibrary.

I think this is possible but I not sure if OpenLibrary is the perfect
system. With OpenLibrary you can have duplicate books with duplicates
images. I think it can be possible to do that with a semi-automatic
insertion to Alexandria. If there are more than one possible ISDN with
diferent results, you can show a preview window to the user with all of
theme and let him to choose what data you want to use.

6- Auto-insertion of book without matches.

Actually, if there is no matches with the ISDN or titles searchs, it stops.
I think it should be good to add a button (or directly redirects users) for
performing a manual insertion instead to lets user to close the windows,
and open manual instertion option (one click is better than 3 or 4 clicks)

7- GIF implementation for book images.

I only tried with JPG and GIF. JPG is working, GIF not. I don't know if
Alexandria is PNG and SVG compatible for book images.

8- Auto-insertion of book retrieving external information with characters
errors.

In my language, we use áéíóú and another characters (UTF-8), so the system
put symbols and other stuff like a diferent encoding charset.

9- Up-to-date home page.

Actually the latest available stable version at homepage section is 0.6.7
and in the section download is the version 0.6.6 (like last stable) and in
mailing list we can obtain 0.6.8 (but I don't know if it is considerad
stable or not).
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Re: The number of books in collection

Cathal Mc Ginley — 2012-01-06T20:36:06

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On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 15:40:08 +0400
Сидоров Святослав <sidsv< at >mail.ru> wrote:


There are no "hard" limits. But the performance is NOT good on
collections larger than a few hundred books.

One way around this is to make several smaller "Libraries" (maybe
subdivided according to location, or subject) with one or two hundred
books in each.

But in all honesty, I cannot recommend Alexandria for a library of this
size. It's just not stable enough, and it's much too slow for large
collections. Perhaps you can try the alternative programs GCStar or
Tellico.

I am (once again) working on a new program (Palatina) which should
overcome these shortcomings, but it will be many months before it is
useful for ordinary users. I would like to be able to test Palatina on
libraries of several thousand books when it's ready - may I contact you
then to try it?

Hope this helps,

   -   Cathal.

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The number of books in collection

Сидоров Святослав — 2012-01-06T11:40:08

Hello guys!

We have a big home library about 3000 books. Does Alexandria have any limits on the number of books that can be added to collection?

Best regards,
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Re: The number of books in collection

Cathal Mc Ginley — 2012-01-06T20:36:06

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On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 15:40:08 +0400
Сидоров Святослав <sidsv< at >mail.ru> wrote:


There are no "hard" limits. But the performance is NOT good on
collections larger than a few hundred books.

One way around this is to make several smaller "Libraries" (maybe
subdivided according to location, or subject) with one or two hundred
books in each.

But in all honesty, I cannot recommend Alexandria for a library of this
size. It's just not stable enough, and it's much too slow for large
collections. Perhaps you can try the alternative programs GCStar or
Tellico.

I am (once again) working on a new program (Palatina) which should
overcome these shortcomings, but it will be many months before it is
useful for ordinary users. I would like to be able to test Palatina on
libraries of several thousand books when it's ready - may I contact you
then to try it?

Hope this helps,

   -   Cathal.

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The number of books in collection

Сидоров Святослав — 2012-01-06T11:40:08

Hello guys!

We have a big home library about 3000 books. Does Alexandria have any limits on the number of books that can be added to collection?

Best regards,
     Svyatoslav.





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Re: The number of books in collection

Cathal Mc Ginley — 2012-01-06T20:36:06

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On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 15:40:08 +0400
Сидоров Святослав <sidsv< at >mail.ru> wrote:


There are no "hard" limits. But the performance is NOT good on
collections larger than a few hundred books.

One way around this is to make several smaller "Libraries" (maybe
subdivided according to location, or subject) with one or two hundred
books in each.

But in all honesty, I cannot recommend Alexandria for a library of this
size. It's just not stable enough, and it's much too slow for large
collections. Perhaps you can try the alternative programs GCStar or
Tellico.

I am (once again) working on a new program (Palatina) which should
overcome these shortcomings, but it will be many months before it is
useful for ordinary users. I would like to be able to test Palatina on
libraries of several thousand books when it's ready - may I contact you
then to try it?

Hope this helps,

   -   Cathal.

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Сидоров Святослав — 2012-01-06T11:40:08

Hello guys!

We have a big home library about 3000 books. Does Alexandria have any limits on the number of books that can be added to collection?

Best regards,
     Svyatoslav.





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Pre-announcement : Alexandria 0.6.8 has beenreleased

Cathal Mc Ginley — 2011-11-15T22:07:51

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Another very quick release, Alexandria 0.6.8

http://rubyforge.org/frs/?group_id=205&release_id=46374

This should now run on Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot)

It's also installable from the Alexandria Team PPA
https://launchpad.net/~alexandria-team/+archive/ppa

A proper announcement should follow soon.


Several providers are broken, but Amazon works.

The "Acquire from Scanner" dialog maximises when scanning with a CueCat
(regression).

Also, Alexandria is very "crashy" at the moment, which I don't
like! I feel like every click is going to break something. So, if you
encounter any *reproduceable* crashes, please reply-all to this message
and I'll try and tackle problems quickly.

Cheers,

   -   Cathal.
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[ANN] Alexandria 0.6.7 bugfix release / amazonsupport fix

Cathal Mc Ginley — 2011-11-07T14:15:16

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Another change to the Amazon API broke support in Alexandria, so I made
a quick bugfix release. Release nootes are here:

http://alexandria.rubyforge.org/news/2011-11-03--0.6.7-released.html

Note: this will install on versions of Ubuntu *before* 11.10

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Alexandria broken on Ubuntu 11.10

Cathal Mc Ginley — 2011-11-07T14:25:58

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I've put up a nicely-formatted version of this message on the
Alexandria website:

http://alexandria.rubyforge.org/news/2011-11-07--ubuntu.html

But I'll include the text version here for convenience (and the
mailing-list archive).


Alexandria has been removed from the Ubuntu package repositories for
the new 11.10 (oneiric) release. This is because the alexandria package
depends on old ruby-gnome2 packages which have been dropped from Ubuntu.

The reasons behind this are a little complex, and took me a while to
work out, so I shall go through them.

* In the course of developing GTK+3, the GTK+ developers decided to
  tidy up [1] libraries of unrelated modules. So, for example, libgnome
  was refactored and classes like Gnome::Program were pulled out into
  Gtk::Application in the main libgtk library. Similarly, the
  functionality of libglade2 is now provided by Gtk::Builder. And use
  of libgconf2 is discouraged (without any simple drop-in replacement,
  as far as I can tell so far).

* The Ruby/GNOME2 team, with limited resources, cannot keep supporting
  soon-to-be discontinued libraries. So, coming up to their recent
  1.0.0 release, they marked [2] libgnome2-ruby, libgconf2-ruby and
  libglade2-ruby (and many others) as deprecated. This means [3]
  “considered obsolete but still available for use, though planned to
  be phased out”.

* Debian dropped [4] all the deprecated packages from Debian Testing in
  July 2011, since they are “unmaintained upstream”. This also meant
  that any packages which depended upon them had to be dropped,
  including Alexandria. [5]

* Ubuntu, which takes most of its software packages from Debian,
  followed suit in not including the deprecated Ruby/GNOME2 packages,
  and therefore also had to drop Alexandria in the 11.10 release. [6]

Since the three deprecated packages Alexandria needs have been removed
from the Ubuntu repositories, any attempt to simply install the latest
Alexandria deb package will fail due to broken dependencies.

Therefore, to get Alexandria up and running on Ubuntu again I must do
some combination of these:

* Re-write parts of Alexandria so it no longer requires those libraries.

* Re-package some dependencies and make them available on the
  Alexandria Team PPA.

This is the current plan. Where possible, I will use re-writing, which
should lead to fewer maintenance worries in the future. Keep an eye on
the mailing-list [7] for progress reports.


How did I miss this?

* I haven't been working on Alexandria for many months.

* I don't use the latest Ubuntu. I use Trisquel GNU/Linux, which is
  based upon an older version of Ubuntu.

* I'm not subscribed to any of the relevant Debian mailing-lists to
  which notifications were sent. 

* The Debian maintainers of Alexandria
  did not contact the Alexandria mailing-list or leave a bug report on
  the tracker on RubyForge. So I had no knowledge of the problem until
  #29415 [8], #29418 [9], and #29419 [10] were posted on the tracker a
  few days ago.


   -   Cathal Mc Ginley


[1] http://live.gnome.org/LibgnomeMustDie
[2] http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/980605
[3] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/deprecated
[4] http://lists.debian.org/debian-ruby/2011/07/msg00049.html
[5] http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/alexandria.html
[6] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot
[7] http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/alexandria-list/
[8] http://rubyforge.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=865&aid=29415&group_id=205
[9] http://rubyforge.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=863&aid=29418&group_id=205
[10] http://rubyforge.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=863&aid=29419&group_id=205

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Re: Alexandria under OS X

Kip Warner — 2011-10-22T00:25:31

That I did not know. Interesting.


Actually, despite what people might have suspected in my original post,
I'm glad they aren't using that proprietary platform. I just wish the
person I am trying to help was off of it too.


It sounds like one of those things that probably won't work after
several hours of having tried. Even if it did, it's probably too
cumbersome for the person I am trying to help to go through.


We always love the work you've been doing and I am very grateful for it.
If it wasn't for Alexandria, I'd have a lot of books still loaned out
that I would have forgotten.


It's alright. I'd offer to help, but I don't personally have access
either. Thanks anyways.

Re: Alexandria under OS X

Cathal Mc Ginley — 2011-10-21T20:38:48

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On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 17:05:43 -0700
Kip Warner <kip-24cx7Q+jQVit/hvpvFFPbQ< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:


Way back, Alexandria was designed to play well on OS X, with a
platform-specific user-interface and everything. That became dated, and
was removed since none of the active developers used the platform.

It *should* be possible to install Ruby-GNOME2 on a Mac, but I haven't
seen anyone who's tried it with Alexandria.

I'm the current maintainer for Alexandria, although I haven't touched
the project for months due to my own computer problems (now resolved).
I hope I can start putting in some bug-fixes soon.

As for OS X support, I don't have access to the platform, but I could
work with someone who was willing to collaborate remotely to get it up
and running.

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Alexandria under OS X

Kip Warner — 2011-10-19T00:05:43

Hey folks,

I don't use OS X myself, but someone I know of does and would benefit
from Alexadria. Has anyone in the past attempted successfully to get
Alexandria running under it?

PS Please cc me as I don't believe I am on the list.

Crashing

Randy Santaga — 2011-08-28T22:39:27

Good Afternoon,

I recently downloaded and installed Alexandria ver 0.6.6 on Ubuntu 10.04
LTS. It has started crashing and just now I went to add a book by ISBN.
Alexandra found it on the WorldCat however it loaded the book in a
language other than english and without the blue cover. When I try to
remove the blue cover and information by clicking on the icon,
Alexandria crashes repeatedly. Any help would be appreciated.

Regards,

Randy
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Re: Will Not Allow Input of Author Information

Cathal Mc Ginley — 2011-08-24T21:59:15

On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 13:08:40 -0700
Randy Santaga <rsantaga-fVOoFLC7IWo< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:


I think this might be the issue: after entering the new name, be sure to
hit ENTER before clicking any other button. Otherwise the edit is not
registered.

   -   C.

Will Not Allow Input of Author Information

Randy Santaga — 2011-08-23T20:08:40

Good Day, while manually entering the Author's name Alexandria does not
show the recently added name. It continues to show "Author". Has anyone
come across this situation before? I am running version 0.6.5 of
Alexandria under Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.

Thanks,

Randy
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