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Re: New "translation update" for pioneers (0.12.3.1 Debian related)

Roland Clobus — 2010-10-27T09:26:03

Hello list and Bas,

No CC to Debian, first Pioneers can solve this issue.

Let me try to see what is blocking 0.12.3.1 to be included in Debian.
Is it only the change in gtkbugs.c, where the check is not correct?
Or are other issues also raised?

The code

#if (GTK_MAJOR_VERSION <= 2 && GTK_MINOR_VERSION <= 18 &&
GTK_MICRO_VERSION < 2)
        GtkWidget *button;
#endif

is indead not working as intended, it should be replaced by a runtime
check (gtk_check_version), I can write that.

Bas wrote:
pioneers
need
 
It really makes sense if Debian is upgraded to also upgrade Gtk+, so a
manual requirement for the version that is shipping could solve the
problem.

What additional scenarios should be tested if we keep 2.12 as minimum?
An application built on unstable, and the executable copied to stable
and then running it? Or build a deb on unstable and install that on
stable? It will take a lot of time to set up such tests, and I don't
expect many distributions where the runtime and build time versions will
be incompatible. For me, I would rather spend that time on fixing other
bugs.

A version 0.12.3.2 can be released which fixes all issues raised/found
by Debian QA, which will eliminate the need to patch the code in the
Debian repository. (I strongly recommend that upstream has the right
code and that no distribution needs to make changes).

With kind regards,
Roland Clobus
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Re: New "translation update" for pioneers

Bas Wijnen — 2010-10-27T06:39:05

Op 26-10-10 23:29, Roland Clobus schreef:

...


Indeed, 2.20 is in testing now. However, users may only upgrade pioneers
if they want to, and not libgtk+. According to the package, this is
allowed; it requires 2.12.0. So if we don't do a run-time check, I need
to manually demand 2.18.2 or larger.

I can do this; the question remains if these changes are small enough to
be allowed a freeze exception (which is why debian-release is still in
the loop; sorry for the noise).


Yes, I will push those things in anyway. The question is if I should do
this as a Debian-specific patch to 0.12.3, or by packaging 0.12.3.1. I'd
like an answer from the release team to that.


Indeed. The translation and theme fixes should go into squeeze
(currently testing); 0.12.4 will go into wheezy (testing after the
release of squeeze).

Thanks,
Bas Wijnen

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Re: New "translation update" for pioneers

Roland Clobus — 2010-10-26T21:29:04

The patch for gtkbugs.c was included because Debian Testing (at some
time Debian Stable) includes a version that is new enough that this code
doesn't need to be present. The #if part can be removed from the patch,
it should work anyway.
The part in gtkbugs.c was also aimed at systems that have the same
runtime version or newer than the version that was used at build time
(even though that's not explicitly tested).

I still think 0.12.3.1 could be included in the new Debian Stable
release. The translations are better, and a bug that renders half the
themes unusable is fixed.

A few hours ago I announced a string freeze for 0.12.4, so the next
release of Debian can include that updated version, I hope the new
Debian Stable can include 0.12.3.1.

With kind regards,
Roland Clobus

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Re: New "translation update" for pioneers

Bas Wijnen — 2010-10-26T18:41:21

Op 26-10-10 20:14, Julien Cristau schreef:

Good catch! These sort of things are the reason I might better include
only the translations. :-)


Hmm, I suppose it is possible to run the executable with a lower version
of the library than was used to compile it. It's not using any symbols
which are new in 2.18.2, so dpkg-shlibdeps will generate a dependency on
a lower version, right? In that case we do indeed need a runtime check.

Roland, I think it's best if I make any required changes for this Debian
package, and we include them in the next release (which will not go into
squeeze) separately. What do you think?

Thanks,
Bas

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