gmane.comp.cms.sakai.devel

Re: Initial Look at Some Sakai Commit Data

Sean Keesler — 2008-12-02T04:42:01

I wonder how much this tracking reflects the addition cost of developing new, innovative tools against a moving target, versus a stable tag. I remember wonder when at Syracuse if "running with the devil" was earning us more (by staying current with trunk) than it was costing us (in maintenance of code). Sean ------------------- Sean Keesler 130 Academy Street Manlius, NY 13104 sean< at >keesler.org 315-682-0830 Jon Gorrono wrote: ---------------------- This automatic notification message was sent by Sakai Collab (https://collab.sakaiproject.org//portal) from the DG: Development (a.k.a. sakai-dev) site. You can modify how you receive notifications at My Workspace > Preferences.

Re: Initial Look at Some Sakai Commit Data

Jon Gorrono — 2008-12-02T04:13:07

I had a similar reaction... I would think there would be more independence... since i get a kick out of trying to interpret graphs... pardon some of my indulgence: ...if the data points are *not* somehow entangled in an underlying layer, it suggests that the main repo activity for releases, etc may produce activity in contrib. or that the environmental conditions that lead to one aslo lead to the other. Like just before a conference (April peak) or Northern Hemisphere Fall terms (August peak)... but even the minor peaks and valleys are in synch (less so after April 2008-ish) . another possiblity is that stuff is *moving* from contrib to the main repo, but the *overall* difference btwn the two rates of the change of the slopes is close to nothing. ..one thing is clear, if I had invested in sakai commits I would have been a lot better off :) On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Clay Fenlason et.gatech.edu> wrote:

Re: Initial Look at Some Sakai Commit Data

Clay Fenlason — 2008-12-02T02:18:33

I'm curious about why the contrib ebb and tide seems to correspond so closely to svn peaks and valleys. Even if the gap starts to widen, it does so consistently. Is there a fraction of contrib modules which track the trunk? ~Clay On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 8:29 PM, csev umich.edu> wrote:

Vendor Dropping FCK Plugins

Steven Githens — 2008-12-02T01:33:06

Hello, I'm wondering how schools using extra FCK Editor plugins have integrated them with their vendor drops, especially if those FCK plugins are modules in source.sakaiproject.org. I'm wondering if the best thing to do is: - vendor drop the FCK Plugin - incorporate that into the 'reference' module vendor drop via a external or svn copy from the FCK Plugin drop. Any suggestion/ideas/links to existing practices doing it appreciated. Versioned Cheers, Steve ---------------------- This automatic notification message was sent by Sakai Collab (https://collab.sakaiproject.org//portal) from the DG: Development (a.k.a. sakai-dev) site. You can modify how you receive notifications at My Workspace > Preferences.

Re: Initial Look at Some Sakai Commit Data

csev — 2008-12-02T01:29:24

Yes - I was aware of that and wondered about that myself as I did the numbers and was doing some sanity checks - an initial look suggested that it was not significant. I will check again to make sure. One thing that I should probably do is come up with a simple way to limit it to the right part of the main SVN - perhaps I should filter anything not in .externals out - perhaps that is the right way to go. I tried to avoid making too may value judgements. This is an inexact science - I see why Ohloh sticks with trunks only. I am very open to suggestions. /Chuck On Dec 1, 2008, at 4:32 PM, D. Stuart Freeman wrote: ---------------------- This automatic notification message was sent by Sakai Collab (https://collab.sakaiproject.org//portal) from the DG: Development (a.k.a. sakai-dev) site. You can modify how you receive notifications at My Workspace > Preferences.

[apology] Join the rSmart community with the new MySakai

Nate Angell — 2008-12-02T00:33:57

[My apologies to the list for my earlier, accidental message. Here is what I wanted to invite the community to attend.] Sakai colleagues: I would like to extend a special invitation to you all to attend a webinar we are giving at rSmart where we'll introduce our new MySakai service, where individual users can run real-world Sakai pilots at no cost and connect with a community of their peers. Need help generating support for Sakai on your campus? Want to try Sakai, but don't know where to get started? Want to connect with other rSmart CLE and Sakai implementors? rSmart is relaunching its MySakai service as a user-friendly gateway for Sakai adoption. The new MySakai combines a free, hosted, online environment where individuals can try Sakai in real-life situations, along with a new community and user-driven knowledge base built with Sakai's collaboration tools and especially geared to faculty, administrators and other non-technical users. Take a guided tour of MySakai and join the discussion about fostering Sakai adoption and use on your campus and beyond. Join us for a Webinar 12:00 PM - 1:00 PM PST on Thursday, December 11, 2008 Space is limited...reserve your Webinar seat now at: https://www1.gotomeeting.com/register/514026322 After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the Webinar. System Requirements PC-based attendees Required: Windows® 2000, XP Home, XP Pro, 2003 Server, Vista Macintosh®-based attendees Required: Mac OS® X 10.4 (Tiger®) or newer -- Nate Angell Client Evangelist < at >xolotl = twitter 602.714.9677 work http://rsmart.com/ ---------------------- This automatic notification message was sent by Sakai Collab (https://collab.sakaiproject.org//portal) from the DG: Development (a.k.a. sakai-dev) site. You can modify how you receive notifications at My Workspace > Preferences.

Re: My Sakai webinar

Nate Angell — 2008-12-01T23:15:55

Thanks for setting this up! I will get you the description no later than friday. Not sure who you have in mind to send to, but in all MySakai communications I think we can spread the net pretty wide to include at least: clients sandbox users CLE downloaders CLE purchase inquirers newsletter subscribers any other Sakai leads we may have we might also invite the Sakai community via lists like sakai-user< at >collab.sakaiproject.org and sakai-dev< at >collab.sakaiproject.org I will probably need a practice run in gotomeeting as I don't think I gleaned enough from the brownbag on that to lead a meeting...what's the best way to do that? On Dec 1, 2008, at 3:09 PM, Megan Perrone wrote: ---------------------- This automatic notification message was sent by Sakai Collab (https://collab.sakaiproject.org//portal) from the DG: Development (a.k.a. sakai-dev) site. You can modify how you receive notifications at My Workspace > Preferences.

Re: sakai/samigo 2.4.x missing results?

Karen Tsao — 2008-12-01T21:52:14

Hi Kenwrick, So you cannot see his record in Total Scores page? Can you run the following query? SELECT * FROM sam_assessmentgrading_t ag, sam_publishedassessment_t pa where ag.publishedassessmentid = pa.id and pa.title = :assessment_title and agentid = :user_id Do you see any records? Thanks, Karen On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Kenwrick Chan hawaii.edu> wrote: ---------------------- This automatic notification message was sent by Sakai Collab (https://collab.sakaiproject.org//portal) from the DG: Development (a.k.a. sakai-dev) site. You can modify how you receive notifications at My Workspace > Preferences.

Re: Initial Look at Some Sakai Commit Data

D. Stuart Freeman — 2008-12-01T21:32:45

I don't know that it's a grievous error, but it looks like your data includes the commits to institution specific parts of the repository like https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/oncourse/ . That will inflate the numbers for institutions that keep their local changes in central subversion, while institutions that do vendor drops are ignored. On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 06:09:26PM -0500, csev wrote:

sakai/samigo 2.4.x missing results?

Kenwrick Chan — 2008-12-01T21:14:49

Folks, We have a user that supposedly took a proctored test in samigo. Unfortunately we have no record of it and since we've have a 2.4.x version of samigo installed no events to support her taking it. Any suggestions on how I can verify and find her results? Thanks, Kenwrick ---------------------- This automatic notification message was sent by Sakai Collab (https://collab.sakaiproject.org//portal) from the DG: Development (a.k.a. sakai-dev) site. You can modify how you receive notifications at My Workspace > Preferences.

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Hugo Jacobs — 2008-12-01T18:28:05

Hi, Here's an update of the first steps towards a configurable evaluation workflow for OSP. The work requirements, concepts and examples are gathered at: http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/SAKDEV/Concepts+of+an+ev aluation+workflow This is done with help of the people who are tuning in on the weekly OSP conference call. Any suggestions of people with ideas about making a workflow 'evaluation centric' are welcome to chime in ;-) Cheers, Hugo Hugo Jacobs Business analist e-mail: hjacobs< at >loi.nl telefoon: +31 71 5451 305 of +31 6 1740 1131 [see attachment: "image001.gif", size: 2058 bytes] Attachments: image001.gif https://collab.sakaiproject.org//access/content/attachment/8d6edbeb-a491-4921-ab7b-23926e6751b0/image001.gif ---------------------- This automatic notification message was sent by Sakai Collab (https://collab.sakaiproject.org//portal) from the DG: Development (a.k.a. sakai-dev) site. You can modify how you receive notifications at My Workspace > Preferences.

Re: Become User

Matthew Buckett — 2008-12-01T15:59:41

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Mark Norton earthlink.net> wrote: tool-tool eclipse project, don't ask because I don't know.

Re: Become User

SOO KIM — 2008-12-01T15:53:40

Hi Mark, After a quick browsing my local sakai source... I found the su tool here: https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/tool/trunk/tool-tool/su/ SOO --------------------------------------------------- http://www.linkedin.com/in/kimsooil On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Mark Norton earthlink.net>wrote: ---------------------- This automatic notification message was sent by Sakai Collab (https://collab.sakaiproject.org//portal) from the DG: Development (a.k.a. sakai-dev) site. You can modify how you receive notifications at My Workspace > Preferences.

Become User

Mark Norton — 2008-12-01T15:25:04

I need to track down the Become-User application source code. Anyone know where this lives? - Mark ---------------------- This automatic notification message was sent by Sakai Collab (https://collab.sakaiproject.org//portal) from the DG: Development (a.k.a. sakai-dev) site. You can modify how you receive notifications at My Workspace > Preferences.

[Fwd: Unable to find out validation code for creating new user]

2008-12-01T12:13:46

---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Unable to find out validation code for creating new user From: indrani< at >bohiyaanam.com Date: Thu, November 27, 2008 9:03 am To: sakai-dev< at >collab.sakaiproject.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, I am trying to find out validation for creating a new user in sakai. If you don't enter user detail in the form and click on "Save Details" button while creating new user, you see an alert on top of the form. Can't find out corresponding code which is executing on click event. If I see the page source, I find following line:

But can't locate the file specified in action attribute. I need to also find out following information: -> Where is the corresponding java script file. -> What happened after java script validation and how user details get saved into database. -> How can I trace the flow? -> What all files gets executed for creating a new user. I have looked at the .vm files from "C:\sakai-src-2.5.3\user\user-tool\tool\src\webapp\vm\user", but cannot understand them. Is there any book for learning .vm programming? Please, give me adequate direction on this situation. Best Regards, Indrani Nondy ---------------------- This automatic notification message was sent by Sakai Collab (https://collab.sakaiproject.org//portal) from the DG: Development (a.k.a. sakai-dev) site. You can modify how you receive notifications at My Workspace > Preferences.

Initial Look at Some Sakai Commit Data

csev — 2008-11-29T23:09:26

I am preparing for my social computing course (SI301) in the winter - so I am doing some playing with tools using Sakai Commit data as my playground. I have a few graphs up (more coming) and an SQLite3 database to play with here: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~csev/sakai/data/ There are three cool graphs so far. Main SVN versus Contrib Monthly commits to both repositories Monthly commits to the main SVN I produce the graphs using Python scripts reading SQLite3 databases and display them using the Google Visualization API. It would be much appreciated if someone took a look at the actual data in the database and let me know if there were some grievous errors in my data. /Chuck ---------------------- This automatic notification message was sent by Sakai Collab (https://collab.sakaiproject.org//portal) from the DG: Development (a.k.a. sakai-dev) site. You can modify how you receive notifications at My Workspace > Preferences.

Re: Does anyone know what "empty revision for padding" means w.r.t. view SVN?

2008-11-29T16:00:21

This will typically occur when the contents of one repository are imported into another (via svndump) with the option enabled to preserve revision numbers. If the dump was filtered to only include certain paths, the modifications performed at a certain revision number will be "missing". Cheers, A. Quoting csev umich.edu>: ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ---------------------- This automatic notification message was sent by Sakai Collab (https://collab.sakaiproject.org//portal) from the DG: Development (a.k.a. sakai-dev) site. You can modify how you receive notifications at My Workspace > Preferences.

Does anyone know what "empty revision for padding" means w.r.t. view SVN?

csev — 2008-11-29T14:19:12

As an example: https://source.sakaiproject.org/viewsvn?view=rev&revision=23281 Is this perhaps a tag that was deleted? /Chuck ---------------------- This automatic notification message was sent by Sakai Collab (https://collab.sakaiproject.org//portal) from the DG: Development (a.k.a. sakai-dev) site. You can modify how you receive notifications at My Workspace > Preferences.

rWiki prepopulated pages

Daniel Merino — 2008-11-28T11:26:15

Hi, everybody. We have a problem with the rWiki's prepopulated pages. AFAIK the Wiki's prepopulated pages (e.g. the Notation Tips or the Help Page) are generated at the course creation's time, in the preferred language of the user that creates that course. The i18n works well at creation's time, but after that, these pages are always shown in the same language, doesn't matter the user's preferred language. I wonder if could be possible to change this behaviour and generate these prepopulated pages each time the user logs in, in his preferred language. Or still better (but more difficult, I think) to generate these pages just one time in all the available languages and after that, load the right one looking the user's preferred language. Thanks in advance.

Re: log4j settings for mysql profiling

Stephen Marquard — 2008-11-27T16:30:13

Hi, Thanks, that was a good clue. Some further digging in the connector-j source shows that mysql is logging to log4j (or via commons-logging) with an instance name of "MySQL", so to get this to work requires a connection string like: url< at >javax.sql.BaseDataSource=jdbc:mysql://localhost:3306/sakai?useUnicode=true&characterEncoding=UTF-8&useServerPrepStmts=false&profileSQL=true&logger=com.mysql.jdbc.log.CommonsLogger together with sakai.properties: log.config.count=2 log.config.1=DEBUG.org.sakaiproject.util.RequestFilter log.config.2=INFO.MySQL Together with KNL-80, and a log4.properties like this (KNL-81): log4j.appender.Sakai.layout.ConversionPattern=%d{ABSOLUTE} %t %5p %F:%L %c{1}:%L - %m%n it gives an end-to-end list of all the db queries associated with a specific http request as well as total elapsed time. Cheers Stephen On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Stephen Marquard uct.ac.za> wrote: Have you told the MySQL profiling to use the log4j logger with the connection property logger=com.mysql.jdbc.log.Log4JLogger?

Re: log4j settings for mysql profiling

Matthew Buckett — 2008-11-27T15:28:24

On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Stephen Marquard uct.ac.za> wrote: Have you told the MySQL profiling to use the log4j logger with the connection property logger=com.mysql.jdbc.log.Log4JLogger?