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Thanks Gale,

I've been on the keyboard all day.   Spent all night last night backing up the data on the Puppy install to my main server via WiFi, all day today wiping Puppy and installing Ubu10.04LTS, configuring, and adding utilities.

Got it installed with the binaries through Synaptics, but it's running very slow and only recording about 12-15 secs of audio.  Still some bugs to work out, and might mean a compile from source, but I doubt I'll have the same problem with that as I had trying to compile under Puppy.

I'll keep the list advised.
Just scored a nice Yamaha 8-chan Mixing board, and I'm anxious to get a couple of my vintage mics wired up and do some audio production projects.  Contemplating doing some voice-overs...  We'll see how that goes.

Bruce


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    <dc:date>2012-05-23T09:13:50</dc:date>
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 09:41:41 +0100
william doran &amp;lt;william.doran3&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;hotmail.com&amp;gt; wrote:

Just to repeat an oft-made correction, Audacity only provides
inputs that your sound device does. If the sound device lacks 
"stereo mix" or "what U hear", or it has one of those but 
Windows is hiding it, then Audacity won't see any way to 
record computer playback. 

That's why reading the Manual would be good as Lin said. 
http://manual.audacityteam.org/help/manual/man/tutorial_recording_audio_playing_on_the_computer.html 

If you follow the link from there that says "Recording Computer 
Playback on Windows" - this one:
http://manual.audacityteam.org/help/manual/man/tutorial_recording_computer_playback_on_windows.html

you'll learn that "It is common on Windows 7 and Vista that not all 
recording inputs are automatically enabled" and that you have 
to enable them in the "Recording tab". Unfortunately that is too 
vague to be completely useful, but it means the "Recording tab" 
of Windows "Sound". You can get there by right-click over the 
speaker icon (by the system clock) &amp;gt; Recording Devices. Then you 
can do what the Manual says:

1    Right-click anywhere inside the Recording tab and choose "Show
disabled devices" then right-click again and check "Show Disconnected
Devices"
2   Right-click specifically over the input device you want to record
with (in this case "Stereo Mix" or whatever alternative you have), and
if visible, choose "Enable".

If it helps to have a picture:
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Mixer_Toolbar_Issues#vistacp ..

If you obtain software to really download (as opposed to record)
the audio from a YouTube video as WAV, you're all set. That
download should be in as good a quality as the source audio
being streamed (probably better, as you will not risk stream
interruptions or e-mail dings while you are recording).  

If you are actually downloading the video then there are many
ways to extract the audio from it. One is to install FFmpeg:
http://manual.audacityteam.org/help/manual/man/faq_installation_and_plug_ins.html#ffdown

then drag the video file into Audacity, then export it as a WAV. 
Or use the Audacity effects on it directly if you prefer. 




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On Mon, 21 May 2012 16:51:01 +0800
Bruce Alan &amp;lt;pinetreembr&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gmail.com&amp;gt; wrote:

Bruce, 

I am not a "Linux person". I only compile Audacity on Ubuntu so I 
can test a Linux version of it when needed. 

I gave those steps only to refute what you said that it was hard to 
compile Audacity on Ubuntu. I am not suggesting the steps will work
unmodified on Slackware clones, but if you want an "easy" way to
compile Audacity trunk (aside from if you like recent Ubuntu as an OS) 
then install Ubuntu

Basically Audacity tests the tarball on several well known distros
before releasing it, but there are far too many distros to test on
them all. The fact that Slacko are offering different sources makes 
me think that modifications are needed to make Audacity compile  
with whatever library versions they have. So if their Audacity 
sources won't compile I think they should give you a better answer 
why they don't. 

One approach may be, if their source code is documented with  
versioned dependencies, to go through PPM making sure you 
have the exact library versions required. If any libraries have 
-dev versions, you must install the -dev versions as well, as has 
been said already. 

If PPM gives an error when you install one library that you are
missing other libraries it depends on, then you must install those 
dependent libraries (including any -dev versions) before you 
continue.  

If you want to persevere with "Slacko Puppy", do they offer a
ready-compiled package of Audacity? How about this one?
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet_packages-slacko/audacity-1.3.14.pet  ? 



 
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I'm disappointed to learn that you're trying to manipulate the audio 
from a video. You never mentioned that in your initial message. Had I 
understood that, I wouldn't have answered as I did, because all my 
suggestions were assuming that you had already had an audio file. I 
don't think you will be able to open a Youtube video directly with Best 
Practice - that program is made to use with WAV, MP3 or other audio  
files, not video.

Your real task is to capture the audio from a video. Than you can play 
it, manipulate it, whatever, in any way you want. There's a page in the 
manual titled "Recording audio playing on the computer". Have you read 
it? It may be relevant to what you're trying to do:

http://manual.audacityteam.org/help/manual/man/tutorial_recording_audio_playing_on_the_computer.html

I understand that you may get frustrated, but your first job is to 
clearly state your question, your intent, and what you've done so far, 
all in specific detail. For example, you don't say how you manage to 
"download a favorite Youtube video." That's important information, 
because we need to know the format of the downloaded file. Otherwise 
people have to assume things that may not be relevant, which wastes 
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hiya Lin and to all the Audacity folk who have kindly sent me offers and 
suggestions . May I say thank you all in what has been a frustrating time 
for me .    I am taking up with the  -  best practice source.net offer to 
try and sort out what has become a mess.
I intend to Download a favourite You Tube video ,to the best practice , and 
us their Effects to manipulate Tempo and ,and Pitch .
Sincere thanks to you all again  Bill Doran

-----Original Message----- 
From: william doran
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:41 AM
To: Discussion list for Audacity users
Subject: Re: [Audacity-users] video problem (now pitch manipulation)

Hi There Lin  , Firstly , many thanks for your remarks which I do take on
board , and you might like to know a little about my 'STRUGGLE ' ,
I have found a way - at least  with one of my keyboards to alter the pitch
by a semitone and at the moment ' live with it ' whilst I seek to
record to a manipulative wave form and from there select small parts at will
as required for further study .  With respect - This is my Topic .
It certainly is enough for me --   Anyway back to my problem .  Okay , I
have a video of say Oscar Petersen running . - I do not know what sort of
file it is , so I cannot open it with Audacity . It is the getting it into
Audacity that appears to me to be a stumbling block .
The 1.3 version has a ' What You Hear '  option from what I understand from
various people who have kindly e-mailed me , but this is not on
the new 2.0 version .
There is no ' Video problem ' - All I am after is Recording the Audio from
this video in Waveform .
Lin  Thanks once again , I will go through your suggestions and let you know
of any success .   Sincerely Bill Doran

-----Original Message----- 
From: Lin Sprague
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 7:37 PM
To: Discussion list for Audacity users
Subject: Re: [Audacity-users] video problem (now pitch manipulation)

On 21 May 2012 at 8:19, william doran wrote:


You don't say what you've been doing, so it's not possible to say what
you're doing wrong.

After opening the file with Audacity, I can easily select any portion
of the WAV and choose Change Tempo from the Effect menu. Then choose
Change Pitch from the same menu.

That said, I don't consider Audacity to be the best tool for this job,
since you can't manipulate the tempo and pitch in real time. For a
practice tool, I like to use my regular sound file player, Foobar2000,
with the Soundtouch plugin. It's got separate sliders for pitch, tempo,
and rate. And even more convenient choice might be the $50 program, The
Amazing Slow Downer (http://www.ronimusic.com/). It can slow down and
re-pitch music, and you can loop sections while doing it. Since I'm
cheap, I've instead been using "Best Practice"
(http://bestpractice.sourceforge.net/), a similar free utility that
does most of the same stuff, although it's a bit buggy. Good enough for
my purposes.

By the way, it would be better if you started your own topic, rather
than riding on someone else's. Your question has nothing to do with
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi There Lin  , Firstly , many thanks for your remarks which I do take on 
board , and you might like to know a little about my 'STRUGGLE ' ,
I have found a way - at least  with one of my keyboards to alter the pitch 
by a semitone and at the moment ' live with it ' whilst I seek to
record to a manipulative wave form and from there select small parts at will 
as required for further study .  With respect - This is my Topic .
It certainly is enough for me --   Anyway back to my problem .  Okay , I 
have a video of say Oscar Petersen running . - I do not know what sort of
file it is , so I cannot open it with Audacity . It is the getting it into 
Audacity that appears to me to be a stumbling block .
The 1.3 version has a ' What You Hear '  option from what I understand from 
various people who have kindly e-mailed me , but this is not on
the new 2.0 version .
There is no ' Video problem ' - All I am after is Recording the Audio from 
this video in Waveform .
Lin  Thanks once again , I will go through your suggestions and let you know 
of any success .   Sincerely Bill Doran

-----Original Message----- 
From: Lin Sprague
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 7:37 PM
To: Discussion list for Audacity users
Subject: Re: [Audacity-users] video problem (now pitch manipulation)

On 21 May 2012 at 8:19, william doran wrote:


You don't say what you've been doing, so it's not possible to say what
you're doing wrong.

After opening the file with Audacity, I can easily select any portion
of the WAV and choose Change Tempo from the Effect menu. Then choose
Change Pitch from the same menu.

That said, I don't consider Audacity to be the best tool for this job,
since you can't manipulate the tempo and pitch in real time. For a
practice tool, I like to use my regular sound file player, Foobar2000,
with the Soundtouch plugin. It's got separate sliders for pitch, tempo,
and rate. And even more convenient choice might be the $50 program, The
Amazing Slow Downer (http://www.ronimusic.com/). It can slow down and
re-pitch music, and you can loop sections while doing it. Since I'm
cheap, I've instead been using "Best Practice"
(http://bestpractice.sourceforge.net/), a similar free utility that
does most of the same stuff, although it's a bit buggy. Good enough for
my purposes.

By the way, it would be better if you started your own topic, rather
than riding on someone else's. Your question has nothing to do with
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Thanks again Gale,

Checked out that link, got SVN (and it's assoc libraries 'ruby' and 'tk') installed, seemed to run fine, but does anyone have a suggestion for a similar tool to 'apt-get' ?  That utility is not available under this distro (like I said, the distro is built mainly on Slackware, hence the "Slacko Puppy" name).  Not sure if installing the ACTUAL 'apt-get' utility would drop stuff in the proper architecture on a semi-Slack tree.

Would 'gslapt' fill the purpose needed by 'apt-get' ?
If so, any thoughts on cmd-line for that ('gslapt') ?

The actual utility used on this distro is called 'Puppy Package Manager', executable name 'ppm'.

Taking this one step at a time.
The 'big book' way...

TA,
     BA

On Mon, 21 May 2012 03:22:43 +0100
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;

You don't say what you've been doing, so it's not possible to say what 
you're doing wrong.

After opening the file with Audacity, I can easily select any portion 
of the WAV and choose Change Tempo from the Effect menu. Then choose 
Change Pitch from the same menu.

That said, I don't consider Audacity to be the best tool for this job, 
since you can't manipulate the tempo and pitch in real time. For a 
practice tool, I like to use my regular sound file player, Foobar2000, 
with the Soundtouch plugin. It's got separate sliders for pitch, tempo, 
and rate. And even more convenient choice might be the $50 program, The 
Amazing Slow Downer (http://www.ronimusic.com/). It can slow down and 
re-pitch music, and you can loop sections while doing it. Since I'm 
cheap, I've instead been using "Best Practice" 
(http://bestpractice.sourceforge.net/), a similar free utility that 
does most of the same stuff, although it's a bit buggy. Good enough for 
my purposes.

By the way, it would be better if you started your own topic, rather 
than riding on someone else's. Your question has nothing to do with 
"video problems".



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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi , I am attempting to ; Record the Audio from a favourite say , pianist and be able to select small sections of the wavefile on screen , so that I can
slow the playing down without losing the pitch , and then manipulate the pitch ( fine tuning ) , for further study – ( I am learning piano ) .
I have Audacity 2.0  - Windows 7 – FFmpeg . and have had some very helpful advice ,and many thanks for this , but none seem to work for me ,and since I am losing lots of practise time , I am fast considering it to be a lost cause .   Sincerely  Bill Doran


From: bob cavanaugh 
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 7:21 PM
To: 'Discussion list for Audacity users' 
Subject: Re: [Audacity-users] video problem

1.       My goal was to record audio from a dvd to Audacity and paste it into my radio show. 

2.       2. I recorded the audio and attempted to paste it into my other project that is my radio show. 

3.       3. What I expected to happen was that the audio from the video was supposed to be pasted where I wanted it, moving the audio already in that track forward. Then I would have to time shift the other tracks forward by the amount that the third track was extended by. 

4.       4. What actually happened was the audio didn’t appear to be pasted in, despite the undo record showing that I had pasted audio in. 

From: Reid Zak [mailto:reidzak&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 4:42 PM
To: Discussion list for Audacity users
Subject: Re: [Audacity-users] video problem

 

So, here are some troubleshooting questions:

1. What is your goal?

2. What steps did you take to achieve the goal?

3. What was supposed to happen?

4. What actually happened?

 

--Reid

 

 

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:06 PM, bob cavanaugh &amp;lt;bobdavcav&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;comcast.net&amp;gt; wrote:

Yes. 

 

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Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 8:21 PM


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Subject: Re: [Audacity-users] video problem

 

So, you attempted to use Audacity to record the show. Did that work? Were you able to play it back in the initial Audacity window you used for recording it?

 

--Reid

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 5:49 PM, bob cavanaugh &amp;lt;bobdavcav&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;comcast.net&amp;gt; wrote:

I should also mention that I pasted it into an empty project with no problem. What’s going on here? 

 

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Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 3:31 PM
To: 'Discussion list for Audacity users'
Subject: [Audacity-users] video problem

 

Audacity 2.0, Windows 7. I used stereo mix to record audio from a video that was playing in Windows Media player, with the intent of pasting it into my radio show. However, Audacity seems to be acting as if it wants nothing to do with this audio. Whin I pasted it in, it didn’t play, and Audacity wouldn’t record it either.


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On Sun, 20 May 2012 11:10:23 -0700
"bob cavanaugh" &amp;lt;bobdavcav&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;comcast.net&amp;gt; wrote:

Audacity would stop recording as soon as you pressed Play in the other 
project. It would also stop playing in one project as soon as you
pressed Play in another project so as to start playback in that project.

It isn't really safe at the moment for Audacity to have two streams
going on in two different projects. 



There isn't any known reason why you cannot paste between projects,
so it's very hard to comment as to why the paste apparently did not
work. 



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Just to add that Chris also wrote to feedback&amp;lt; at &amp;gt; and I understand 
from Chris that the issue is with the slideshow program, not 
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 12:10:54 +0800
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Compiling Audacity on Ubuntu should need only these steps:
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;1.       My goal was to record audio from a dvd to Audacity and paste it
into my radio show. 

2.       2. I recorded the audio and attempted to paste it into my other
project that is my radio show. 

3.       3. What I expected to happen was that the audio from the video was
supposed to be pasted where I wanted it, moving the audio already in that
track forward. Then I would have to time shift the other tracks forward by
the amount that the third track was extended by. 

4.       4. What actually happened was the audio didn't appear to be pasted
in, despite the undo record showing that I had pasted audio in. 

From: Reid Zak [mailto:reidzak&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 4:42 PM
To: Discussion list for Audacity users
Subject: Re: [Audacity-users] video problem

 

So, here are some troubleshooting questions:

1. What is your goal?

2. What steps did you take to achieve the goal?

3. What was supposed to happen?

4. What actually happened?

 

--Reid

 

 

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wrote:

Yes. 

 

From: Reid Zak [mailto:reidzak&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 8:21 PM


To: Discussion list for Audacity users

Subject: Re: [Audacity-users] video problem

 

So, you attempted to use Audacity to record the show. Did that work? Were
you able to play it back in the initial Audacity window you used for
recording it?

 

--Reid

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wrote:

I should also mention that I pasted it into an empty project with no
problem. What's going on here? 

 

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Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 3:31 PM
To: 'Discussion list for Audacity users'
Subject: [Audacity-users] video problem

 

Audacity 2.0, Windows 7. I used stereo mix to record audio from a video that
was playing in Windows Media player, with the intent of pasting it into my
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do with this audio. Whin I pasted it in, it didn't play, and Audacity
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;The recording and the track I pasted it into were both stereo. When I tried
to paste it in, it appeared there was nothing there, yet I could undo the
paste. I don't remember if it was just silence or if it just continued with
playing the tracks, I seem to remember it was the latter, but I can't
remember for sure. I thought it had to do with the fact that I was pasting
into the middle of an audio track, but I decided to select all tracks and
copy them all into a separate project, where the audio from the video would
go at the end, and it still didn't work. The next thing I tried was to play
the project while recording into the project that is my radio show. I
started the recording, then I pressed Alt Tab to go over to the other
project to press play. When I came back to my radio show and played it back,
the only thing there was my screen reader as I tabbed between projects in
the beginning. Also what was weird was that I could not undo the record,
which I usually can. Since I had saved the project just before I did all
this, I closed the project and it did not prompt me if I wanted to save the
changes. When I reopened the project the recording was gone. I repeated the
process with the same results as before. 

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From: gale&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;audacityteam.org [mailto:gale&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;audacityteam.org] 
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 6:52 PM
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On Fri, 18 May 2012 15:30:47 -0700
"bob cavanaugh" &amp;lt;bobdavcav&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;comcast.net&amp;gt; wrote:

Why not install FFmpeg:
http://manual.audacityteam.org/help/manual/man/faq_installation_and_plug_ins
.html#ffdown

then import the audio from the video? That way you don't lose any quality or
get a beep in it when your e-mail arrives.  



Are the Media Player recording and your show both stereo? You cannot paste
stereo into mono and should hear an error for that. 

Was there an error read out when you pasted? 



Unfortunately we can't see over your shoulder,  so please be as precise as
possible. What is the length of the selection you tried to paste? Did you
place the cursor in the track in your show before pasting? In that case you
should be able to hear it at once by pressing SPACE.
   
Did you have the track unmuted and the volume turned up when you tried to
play the paste? 

You can also try undoing all the steps and starting the paste over again. If
you want to hear the steps, choose View &amp;gt; History.
Tab into the Action table then use up arrow to select the step 
you want to go back to, then choose OK.   




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Bruce Alan &amp;lt;pinetreembr&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gmail.com&amp;gt; wrote:
 
 
 

I'm running the beta version of Fedora, 17.  I compile audacity from
subversion.  I just updated to the latest version, 11743, and it
compiled and runs just fine.  It blew through the place you had your
error without even slowing down.

Some points:

These are all much *newer* than are found in F17, 6, 2, and 6
respectitely.  I suspect they don't exist, or if they do are in alpha
version. That leads me to believe that the packagers of audacity for
*your* distro customized it in order to get it to compile.  It isn't
surprising you didn't find these libraries on the web.

The error you are getting is indicative of a change in API for a
library.  I see that you are using gtk2, and the latest version of gtk
is 3.  Since gtk3 is an extensive rewrite of gtk2, and gtk2 is no
longer being maintained, this is probably the cause of your problem.
Why didn't the configure pick this up?  Because it probably checks a
gtk2 function that didn't change its signature in the update to
gtk3.  If this is true, it is a bug, as it should have flagged that
you were using an incompatible gtk library during configure.  Note that
I didn't do extensive checking here, so this could be wrong.

If you want to make audacity compile on your distro, I think you will
have to do a *lot* of work to put in place the libraries in the
versions audacity needs.  You might be able to get away with putting a
bunch of symbolic links to the existing libraries for some of it,
pretending they are the libraries audacity is looking for.  But I don't
think that will work for all the changes needed.

Do you have all the development packages for your libraries installed?
They are usually called -dev or -devel and have the header files the
compiler needs to put in function calls.

It seems to me that the cause of your problem is in the packages
available for your distro.   If, as your rant suggested, this was a
widespread problem on multiple distros, there would be significant
discussion on the web.  That there isn't suggests to me that it works
on other distros.  And it's worked for me on Fedora through multiple
versions.

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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Being lazy and not having read this thread completely ... do you have
the "dev" versions of the needed libraries installed. For example, on
ubuntu, there is a libstdc++ and libstdc++-dev (version numbers
omitted). To compile programs you need the "dev" versions.

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OK...  First off, Thank You Gale for your response.
Seems I have come full circle now, as the distro people
considered my questions about trying to get the needed
libraries as "whining", the suggestion was:

"TRY A DIFFERENT DISTRO"

What a concept !!!   A distro with the needed libraries,
or a central repository to house them, instead of having
to google all over the internet and cobble them together
from different locations...  I must be KRAZY !!!
Hell...  Maybe I ought to go back to MSDOS...

So I figured, those that actually wrote and use the program
would probably have access to the three library files I need
to make the program (Audacity v2.0.0) run, should be just the
normal Slackware v13.37 libraries, but I was unable to locate
any such thing via google or any other engine, so I'm instead
pointed back to those friendly people in the distro IRC (sic).
(No Thank You)

So..  I d/l the full source code, as instructed by Gale
(thank you again Gale), and I am reminded why I don't do
compiling as much as I used to back in the Slackware v3.1
days.   Seems when Slack got to about v7.0, those that were
doing the coding seemed to get a lot sloppier and errors
started cropping up all over the place.  But it's not just
Slack that has happened to, I've had the same results from
RH, Suse, Deb, BSD, Caldera, Mandriva (Mandrake), Ubuntu,
and several others.  I'd just like to find ONE distro that
works 'out of the box' without having to get under the hood.
I don't mind getting under the hood, when it pertains to
accomplishing something special or unusual, or personalizing,
but come on...   THIS should be easy stuff...

Now, I have a habit to go on too long with rants, so I'll
hop down off the soapbox and just post my output from the
compile atttempt.  Perhaps someone here that is more atuned
with the 'modern day' foibles of 'making' can suggest what
might be wrong.  Was it 'operator error' ?

Please Please! PLEASE!!!  Don't suggest that I use a different
OS, or go buy another computer...  I've heard enough of that!
And those kind of 'helpful' people just make me want to cleanse
the gene pool.

Compile Attempt Results are here:

http://pastebin.com/CVsqdBTh

Looks good in the beginning, configure completes w/o errors.
But then comes the dreaded 'make' process...  &amp;lt;screaming&amp;gt;



On Sun, 20 May 2012 02:30:31 +0100
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From: Chris Edwards &amp;lt;cedwards155&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gmail.com&amp;gt;
Date: Sat, May 19, 2012 at 4:07 PM
Subject: Looping audio - 1.3.14-beta
To: feedback&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;audacityteam.org


Gentlemen:

I have written before, but I think to the wrong address.

I am delighted with your product and use it frequently. I have only one
problem and a 'nice to have' request.


   - I attach mp3 audio tracks to my slide shows using Audacity 1.3, but if
   there is not enough 'silence' at the end it, (not the slide show), will
   start to replay even though looping is not checked.
   - It would be great to have the flexibility to have fractions of seconds
   for image viewing time. This would improve the synchronization with the
   audio.

Thank you,

Chris Edwards
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On Fri, 18 May 2012 15:30:47 -0700
"bob cavanaugh" &amp;lt;bobdavcav&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;comcast.net&amp;gt; wrote:

Why not install FFmpeg:
http://manual.audacityteam.org/help/manual/man/faq_installation_and_plug_ins.html#ffdown

then import the audio from the video? That way you don't lose any
quality or get a beep in it when your e-mail arrives.  



Are the Media Player recording and your show both stereo? You 
cannot paste stereo into mono and should hear an error for that. 

Was there an error read out when you pasted? 



Unfortunately we can't see over your shoulder,  so please be 
as precise as possible. What is the length of the selection you 
tried to paste? Did you place the cursor in the track in your show 
before pasting? In that case you should be able to hear it at once
by pressing SPACE.
   
Did you have the track unmuted and the volume turned up when 
you tried to play the paste? 

You can also try undoing all the steps and starting the paste over 
again. If you want to hear the steps, choose View &amp;gt; History.
Tab into the Action table then use up arrow to select the step 
you want to go back to, then choose OK.   




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On Sat, 19 May 2012 14:58:35 +0800
Bruce Alan &amp;lt;pinetreembr&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gmail.com&amp;gt; wrote:

If you are trying to compile Audacity I would try the full source
tarball provided by us:
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/source  .

If you have issues with missing dependencies in distro-provided
source code, please search Google for an appropriate download 
or take it up with your distro.




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