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Re: LyX -> RFC online, work in progress

Nico Williams — 2012-05-17T20:18:13

Yeah.  Somehow it became obvious after posting.  Using <section> in
<back> actually simplified the XSLT stylesheet significantly.  I've
added PI support, and now I just need to figure the namespace issues
so I can fully script this, deal with whatever minor issues as I go.

Thanks!

Do you think the IETF tools team would like to incorporate this tool?
I'd be happy to contribute it.  I'd think that a WYISWYM tool for I-D
authoring would be somewhat desirable...

Nico
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Re: LyX -> RFC online, work in progress

Julian Reschke — 2012-05-17T20:06:21

Just put a <section> into <back>.


I think you're looking in the right place, it's just not there.

Best regards, Julian

Re: LyX -> RFC online, work in progress

Nico Williams — 2012-05-17T20:03:09

Never mind: it's section elements in the back element, following references.

Re: LyX -> RFC online, work in progress

Nico Williams — 2012-05-17T19:58:31

Actually, I can't find docs saying what should be used to produce an
appendix other than the appendix element.  E.g,
http://xml.resource.org/authoring/draft-mrose-writing-rfcs.html
doesn't say.  The page for the dev version of xml2rfc also doesn't
say.  Where should I be looking?

Nico
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Re: LyX -> RFC online, work in progress

Nico Williams — 2012-05-17T18:07:11

I've added a sample .xhtml file to my repo.  You can see sequences of
elements like:

    <h2 class="section">
      <span class="section_label">2</span> <a id="magicparlabel-93453"/>
Details</h2>
    <div class="standard">
      <a id="magicparlabel-93454"/>
Some text. Here's a protected&nbsp;space, and here's a bunch of them:
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;, see?</div>
    <h3 class="subsection">
      <span class="subsection_label">2.1</span> <a
id="magicparlabel-93455"/><a id="sub_A_sub_section"/>
A sub-section</h3>
    <div class="standard">
      <a id="magicparlabel-93456"/>
and</div>
    <h4 class="subsubsection">
      <span class="subsubsection_label">2.1.1</span> <a
id="magicparlabel-93457"/>
A sub-sub-section</h4>
    <div class="standard">
      <a id="magicparlabel-93458"/>
cool.</div>

To simplify:

<h2>section title</h2>...paragraphs...<h3>subsection title</h3>...

There's no closing of sections.


I looked and looked.  I couldn't find a recipe that supports nesting
of sections.  I ended up r

Re: LyX -> RFC online, work in progress

Julian Reschke — 2012-05-17T17:48:23

If you have a minimized example, I can try.

In general, everything is possible in XSLT 1.0, it just can get very 
painful. Grouping is a weakness.


xml2rfc was supposed to warn about the absence of the PI just for a 
transition period; I guess this should be fixed in the TCL code.

Best regards, Julian

Re: LyX -> RFC online, work in progress

Nico Williams — 2012-05-17T17:41:34

I added screenshots just now.


I know :)  I'll get to that...  since it's only a warning and renders
fine...  I had many more warnings earlier, not to mention errors.

BTW, you seem to know a lot about XSLT...  I had to resort to XSLT 2.0
and some ugly twists to handle conversion of h2, h3, and h4 elements
into section elements.  Any ideas for how to do that in XSLT 1.0?  I
couldn't find any recipes general enough (i.e., covering nested
sections).


No, I have to add that too.

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Re: LyX -> RFC online, work in progress

Julian Reschke — 2012-05-17T17:28:48

Indeed. Don't use <appendix>.


Do you have the PI set at all?


Best regards, Julian

LyX -> RFC online, work in progress

Nico Williams — 2012-05-17T17:20:41

https://github.com/nicowilliams/lyx2rfc

It works well enough that I can actually write a lengthy I-D (in
progress) that xml2rfc (old version) formats with minimal complaints:

xml2rfc: warning: <appendix/> element is deprecated, use <section/>
instead around input line 422
xml2rfc: warning: <?rfc symrefs=?> now defaults to "yes" around input line 436

Also, I need to add various metadata to cover PIs like whether to
generate toc and so on, but it's really quite functional now.

I suppose I should include a screenshot, but, there's plenty at
lyx.org to get started with.

Note that normally I'm very much a VIM in a screen(1) kind of a
person.  I just got tired of <xml/>, what can I say.  LyX doesn't have
VI keybindings, which sucks for me, but I still want to try this out
for a while.

Nico
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Re: Odd error: xml2rfc: error: list doesn't contain element 4 around input line 168

Julian Reschke — 2012-05-12T08:23:41

Source file?


Best regards, Julian

Re: Odd error: xml2rfc: error: list doesn't contain element 4 around input line 168

Nico Williams — 2012-05-12T08:21:20

I solved the problem.

I now have a LyX XHTML->xml2rfc XSLT that works, albeit with lots of
warnings.  I do need to move to the newer xml2rfc, fix the warnings,
...  I'll do that tomorrow.

Thanks for reminding me to move to the new xml2rfc version.

Nico
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Re: Odd error: xml2rfc: error: list doesn't contain element 4 around input line 168

Tony Hansen — 2012-05-12T02:32:31

What's the new version of xml2rfc say?

     Tony Hansen

On 5/11/2012 9:08 PM, Nico Williams wrote:

Odd error: xml2rfc: error: list doesn't contain element 4 around input line 168

Nico Williams — 2012-05-12T01:08:15

xml2rfc: error: list doesn't contain element 4 around input line 168

Even if I remove all <list> elements I still get this.  What's it mean?

Nico
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Re: Alternate XML schemas,or XSLTs? Latexml -> xml2rfc conversion?

Nico Williams — 2012-05-11T07:51:24

Making a lot more progress.  Thanks a lot for your help!

Re: Alternate XML schemas,or XSLTs? Latexml -> xml2rfc conversion?

Nico Williams — 2012-05-11T04:53:03

I'm actually making good progress now on an XSTL (2.0, sadly)
stylesheet to convert LyX XHTML output (which is less lossy than the
other LyX->XML and LyX->TeX->XML conversions I've tried) into xml2rfc
output.

I've to work out some issues with tables and references, and I have to
add support for more author meta-data (which I now know how to do).

Once I have this working it'd also be nice to develop a LyX layout and
class for properly displaying and printing, respectively,
Internet-Drafts/RFCs written in Lyx -- not really necessary, I know,
given xml2rfc, but for RFCs with complex math formulas and such it
might be a good idea.

LyX is a WYSIWYM -- what you see is what you mean -- editor.  It's
only missing a vi mode and it'd be my ideal editor for complex
documents.  Being able to author Internet-Drafts in LyX might make
editing I-Ds easier and more accessible for many people.

Nico
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Re: Alternate XML schemas,or XSLTs? Latexml -> xml2rfc conversion?

Nico Williams — 2012-05-03T21:43:33

The .xml output by htlatex looks like this (I had to change the URL
for docbook.dtd):

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE article PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook V5.0//EN"
"file:///home/nico/MS/Assessment/docbook.dtd" >

<!--translated from test-i-d.tex, on 2012-05-03 16:32:00,
by TeX4ht (http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/)
xhtml,docbook,html,refcaption -->
 <?xtpipes file="docbook.4xt" ?>

<article
 role="report" xmlns="http://docbook.org/ns/docbook"
xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" version="5.0"><title

<para role="maketitle"><note
role="title"><para>draft-williams-httpbis-auth-classi&#xFB01;cation</para></note>
<note role="author"><para><personname><othername>Nicolas
Williams</othername></personname></para></note>
<note role="date"><para>May 3, 2012</para></note></para><abstract

<note
 role="title"><para>Abstract</para></note>
<!--l. 17
--><para>This document proposes a classi&#xFB01;cation scheme for
HTTPbis authentication proposals,
to help with analysis and selection.</para><!--l. 19
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Re: Alternate XML schemas,or XSLTs? Latexml -> xml2rfc conversion?

Nico Williams — 2012-05-03T21:42:11

So I've got a simple test-i-d.lyx file, dead simple: it has a title,
an author, an abstract, a section and a subsection.  I export it as
LaTeX, then I run

htlatex test\-i\-d.tex xhtml,docbook " -cunihtf" -cdocbk

then I tried to apply your transform:

xsltproc --nonet ../../ws/pandoc2rfc/transform.xsl test\-i\-d.xml

but this only produces plain text output on stdout that looks like this:



draft-williams-httpbis-auth-classiﬁcation
Nicolas Williams
May 3, 2012

Abstract
This document proposes a classiﬁcation scheme for HTTPbis
authentication proposals,
to help with analysis and selection.
   0.1Introduction
0.1.1Conventions used in this document
The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL
NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and
"OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC2119.


What am I doing wrong?

Nico
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Re: Alternate XML schemas, or XSLTs? Latexml -> xml2rfc conversion?

Miek Gieben — 2012-05-03T21:21:32

[ Quoting <nico< at >cryptonector.com> in "Re: [xml2rfc] Alternate XML schemas..." ]

I did that too, right now I only edit Pandoc sources
(http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/), which is such a bless :)

See https://github.com/miekg/nsec4 for a real life example.

 Regards,

Re: Alternate XML schemas,or XSLTs? Latexml -> xml2rfc conversion?

Nico Williams — 2012-05-03T21:19:11

Oh, I'll take a look, thanks!

There's a LaTeX to DocBook XML conversion tool, TeX4ht, that I might
be able to use to convert to docbook, then I might be able to use your
pandoc2rfc tool.

I've been using VIM for years to edit xml2rfc XML, but I'm getting
bored of that :)

Nico
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Re: Alternate XML schemas, or XSLTs? Latexml -> xml2rfc conversion?

Miek Gieben — 2012-05-03T21:10:40

[ Quoting <nico< at >cryptonector.com> in "[xml2rfc] Alternate XML schemas, or..." ]

Seems like a simular route I took in pandoc2rfc
(https://github.com/miekg/pandoc2rfc). The style sheet translates from
DocBook XML to xml2rfc. Maybe you can use that as a starting point?

gtrz Miek
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Alternate XML schemas,or XSLTs? Latexml -> xml2rfc conversion?

Nico Williams — 2012-05-03T20:33:33

Has anyone written an XSLT to convert from latexml's schema to xml2rfc schema?

The latexml schema is here: http://dlmf.nist.gov/LaTeXML/manual/schema/ .

The reason I ask is that I'm wondering if LyX could be made to output
Internet-Drafts by way of exporting to tex, then applying latexml,
then postprocess with an XSLT stylesheet to convert to xml2rfc schema,
finally typeset with xml2rfc.  Then we'd have a WYSYWIG Internet-Draft
editing tool.

Nico
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