gmane.text.xml.cocoon.devel

Re: Where is Cocoon 3 going to?

David Crossley — 2008-12-02T01:55:04

I too was concerned when i saw new patches to re-implement something that Cocoon has already spent years developing. A little bit of discussion is a good thing. It enables the rest of the community to feel that they are still in touch with the direction of the project. -David

Re: Where is Cocoon 3 going to?

David Crossley — 2008-12-02T01:39:01

Thanks for your comments. Very important. It would be better if we all heard those explanations here on the dev list. Please encourage your collaborators to join us. -David

Re: [vote] Release Cocoon 3.0.0-alpha-1

Grzegorz Kossakowski — 2008-12-01T20:59:28

David Legg pisze: I wish it had been a party. ;-) Some of us are doing freaky-crazy probability theory these days! Anyway, it would be good if more people could find some time and test this work even briefly. It's has an alpha status and lots of warnings so it does not have to be perfect.

Re: [vote] Release Cocoon 3.0.0-alpha-1

Grzegorz Kossakowski — 2008-12-01T20:54:14

Reinhard Pötz pisze: Tested already Maven artifacts, and now distribution artifacts. Everything looks fine, here is mine: +1

[C3] What's the purpose of StatusCodeCollector?

Grzegorz Kossakowski — 2008-12-01T17:54:10

Hello, The subject says all. I would like to know something about this class and convert this knowledge into some documentation. Introduction of ThreadLocal always deserves at least a few bits of explanation.

Re: [vote] Release Cocoon 3.0.0-alpha-1

Peter Hunsberger — 2008-12-01T15:53:17

Sorta bad timing for those of us in the US: I haven't had a chance to even glance at the artifacts and I won't until I get caught up from Thanksgiving.. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:35 AM, David Legg searchevent.co.uk>wrote:

Re: [vote] Release Cocoon 3.0.0-alpha-1

David Legg — 2008-12-01T15:35:17

Has everyone gone to a party that I don't know about?... or maybe we're all waiting for someone else to vote first ;-) Regards, David Legg Reinhard Pötz wrote:

[cocoon3] Creating idea configuration

Reinhard Pötz — 2008-11-29T17:26:56

I set the version of the maven-idea-plugin to 2.2 in the root POM. I hope that this solves your problem.

[cocoon3] Added a root POM

Reinhard Pötz — 2008-11-29T17:00:49

I added a minimal root POM but left as many settings as possible in the parent POM. HTH

Re: Where is Cocoon 3 going to?

Simone Tripodi — 2008-11-28T15:50:52

Hi everybody, I'm the younger person - in therms of cocoon's experience - who recently joined Reinhard and Steven in their enthusiasm about Cocoon3. Please let me spend my 0.2€ too, feel free moving this email in the spam or trash box :) Just a prelude: I've never experienced using oldest Cocoon's release, but months ago, while I was working on an important OpenID provider (for the biggest Italian Telecommunication company), I had the need to generate , manipulate, validate, transform and serialize large XML data set in various format. So I felt the need to use a solid framework able to help me in a quick and clear way... so, the miracle happened when I found "accidentally" the Reinhard's blog. My first word was just a "wow!", so I wrote an email to him. I was totally charmed, not only about Cocoon, but above all the collaborative way that both Reinhard and Steven demonstrated in explaining me how the new Cocoon works, helping me in adopting it in the way to resolve my problems and involving me in the de

Re: [vote] Release Cocoon 3.0.0-alpha-1

Reinhard Pötz — 2008-11-28T09:59:21

[vote] Release Cocoon 3.0.0-alpha-1

Reinhard Pötz — 2008-11-28T09:53:38

I've prepared the artifacts for the release of Cocoon 3.0.0-alpha-1. You can find the staged files for all modules (sources, binaries, javadocs, checksums, gpg signatures) at http://people.apache.org/builds/cocoon/ SVN tags of all these artifacts can be found at http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/cocoon3/tags/ The general distribution artifacts (tar, zip) can be found at http://people.apache.org/~reinhard/cocoon-staging/ I want to stress again that this is an alpha release. This means that we are free to change contracts without following any deprecation rules. This majority vote stays open for _at least_ 72 hours.

Re: Test and verify Cocoon 3 alpha-1 release artifacts

Reinhard Pötz — 2008-11-27T14:30:17

Except for the SVN tagging issue I managed to route around all the problems mentioned by you. See the 'preparations section' of http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/cocoon3/trunk/RELEASE_HOWTO.txt Otherwise I would have to call 'mvn release:prepare release:perform' in the correct order for each module and manipulate the pom files accordingly.

Re: Cocoon3 commit rights

Reinhard Pötz — 2008-11-27T14:24:27

I brought up this topic because I didn't want to give the impression about the number of active committers on Cocoon. We came the conclusion that we do not want to impose any restrictions or bureaucratic hurdles just for the sake of this. So please go ahead!

Cocoon3 commit rights

Grzegorz Kossakowski — 2008-11-27T13:31:53

Hello, I recall some discussion about commit rights to Cocoon3 that should be given explicitly to existing committers. I don't remember the result of that discussion thus I ask for such a green light. I don't have anything big to commit, just a clean-up of the code (getting rid of some warnings redundant annotations, etc.). TIA.

Re: Test and verify Cocoon 3 alpha-1 release artifacts

Grzegorz Kossakowski — 2008-11-27T12:45:18

Reinhard Pötz pisze: Is this only my feeling that release plug-in does nothing useful? I mean here that it does some unintelligent editing of your POMs that: 1. Does not resolve SNAPSHOT versions to correct released versions (but to some random ones) 2. May result in corrupted POM (e.g. it can remove deployment info). Is it only me who had a bad experience with this plug-in? Thanks. I'm sorry that you have to do it manually...

Using the Cocoon integration test framework (cocoon-it-fw)

Reinhard Pötz — 2008-11-27T12:13:17

I guess you're referring to cocoon-it-fw. It consists of two parts: The first one provides Maven 2 mojos that you can use to start and stop Jetty that loads a war file during the integration test phases. The second one offers a base class for HTML unit tests. All this has no ties to Cocoon at all and can be used for any Java web application. I'd also like to understand this to give you a more specific answer to your above question.

Re: Test and verify Cocoon 3 alpha-1 release artifacts

Reinhard Pötz — 2008-11-27T11:56:54

That's a missing feature of the Maven release plugin when you do a multi-module release. The plugin only tags the root module, in our case http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/cocoon3/tags/cocoon-root/cocoon-root-3.0.0-alpha-1/ I will copy the directories manually before I call for a vote.

Re: Servlet protocol and internal pipelines

Grzegorz Kossakowski — 2008-11-27T11:50:42

Robin Wyles pisze: Ahhh, I didn't think of using scheme. It turns out that SitemapServlet (thus sitemap machinery) has this one single method to recognize that request is coming from ssf and not from browser. Still this looks a little bit dangerous so I would like to see it applied along with something like: if (we allow request by recognizing "servlet" scheme) logger.warn("Following request has been allowed to access internal-only pipeline by using not fully secure method:" + request); Of course message should little bit more relevant that this is only potential security whole which is rather hard to use. Great, as soon as you provide a good integration test I'm happy to commit it. I guess so but it's really Reinhard that is an expert in this area. BTW. Are you going to connect blocks deployed to different machines using SSF? This is something I've been thinking for a while.

Re: [c3] Why Cocoon 3 doesn't use the expression language modules from 2.2

Grzegorz Kossakowski — 2008-11-27T11:38:57

Reinhard Pötz pisze: Ok, let's see how this evolves. Ok. You skipped my point on missing tags in svn. Do you know why they are missing?

Re: Where is Cocoon 3 going to?

Bertrand Delacretaz — 2008-11-27T08:55:33

Hi, On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:31 PM, apache.org> wrote: Agree with that, although I've been (successfully and happily) building complete applications with Cocoon in the past, I wouldn't do that today anymore. But if I have to process XML data or generate various formats from XML, the above functionalities remain a good choice - ideally embeddable in today's java environments. That's why I'm keeping an eye on Cocoon 3, although I haven't been able to do more than that lately. Agree with that as well. -Bertrand