gmane.text.txt2tags

Re: hyphens, dashes and friends

Aurelio Jargas — 2013-04-12T21:46:37

 I just insert the Unicode characters directly in every place: sites,
emails, texts, documents. I'm doing this for years, with no compatibility
problem. I'm glad the world is not ASCII anymore :)

On the Mac, I just hold the Alt key when pressing the hyphen to get an en
dash (–) and hold Alt+Shift for the em dash (—).

In iOS keyboard it's easier: just hold the hyphen key and both dashes
appear as options.

Don't know about Linux and Windows, but there should be similar keystrokes.


On Friday, April 12, 2013, Forgeot Eric wrote:

Re: hyphens, dashes and friends

Forgeot Eric — 2013-04-12T13:55:03

hello,

for my part I use:

- triple hyphen --- for em dash (which I convert to — with txt2tags)
- single hyphen - for everything else (I don't make difference between hyphen and en dash)


and of course double hyphen for strikethrough with txt2tags




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Objet : [t2t] hyphens, dashes and friends
 


Many years ago, when I was in school, I used LaTeX for writing all my papers.  From that, I developed the following habits for hyphen/dash usage:

    - A single hyphen for combined words: "blue-green"
    - A double hyphen for numerical ranges: "50--100"
    - A triple hyphen---in other words, a dash---as a grammatical construct, as in this bullet point

Of course, LaTeX transformed those strings of hyphens into lines of increasing length for the printable output.  But I personally adopted the convention even for plain text (such as emails), an

hyphens, dashes and friends

Matt Garman — 2013-04-11T21:26:54

Many years ago, when I was in school, I used LaTeX for writing all my
papers.  From that, I developed the following habits for hyphen/dash usage:

    - A single hyphen for combined words: "blue-green"
    - A double hyphen for numerical ranges: "50--100"
    - A triple hyphen---in other words, a dash---as a grammatical
construct, as in this bullet point

Of course, LaTeX transformed those strings of hyphens into lines of
increasing length for the printable output.  But I personally adopted the
convention even for plain text (such as emails), and now it's virtually
impossible for me to not do that.

And for what it's worth, I've noticed that the auto-correct features in
Microsoft Outlook seems to follow somewhat similar rules... I haven't taken
the time to figure out exactly what does what, but there is definitely a
distinction between hyphens and dashes.

I can't seem to find if there is any similar convention in txt2tags.  In
fact, the double hyphen gets interpreted as strikethrough.  So I was just
wonderi

Re: txt2tags in a python script

gui b — 2013-04-10T04:35:39

Thanks a lot !

txt2tags is really awesome :)


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Re: txt2tags in a python script

Florent Gallaire — 2013-04-10T00:28:54

Works for txt2tags 2.6, but the trunk is broken (since the template patch).

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:58 AM, Aurelio Jargas <verde-BzGtnO0gxzrR7s880joybQ< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Re: txt2tags in a python script

Aurelio Jargas — 2013-04-09T23:58:22

Yes, you can. Please see the two samples in the samples/module directory.

https://code.google.com/p/txt2tags/source/browse/trunk#trunk%2Fsamples%2Fmodule

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013, gui b wrote:

Re: txt2tags in a python script

gui b — 2013-04-09T17:59:39

Ok thanks

So we can't import txt2tags and call a function for generate the output?


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Re: txt2tags in a python script

Forgeot Eric — 2013-04-09T12:35:23

yes, you can do this:

echo -e "\n\n\n==Hello==\n//blabla//" | txt2tags -t html -


and if you want to write the html output:

echo -e "\n\n\n==Hello==\n//blabla//" | txt2tags -t html - > out.html

(from http://txt2tags.org/userguide/TheThreeUserInterfacesGuiWebandCommandLine.html)


    Eric



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Objet : [t2t] txt2tags in a python script
 

Hi, 
 
I would like to create a python script that uses a variable as input for txt2tags without the creation of a t2t file. Is it possible?
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txt2tags in a python script

gui b — 2013-04-09T11:19:04

Hi,

I would like to create a python script that uses a variable as input for
txt2tags without the creation of a t2t file. Is it possible?

Thanks
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Re: Interpreted marks in title tags and named links

Galen Menzel — 2013-04-04T20:31:28


Well, my main source of sadness here is that as soon as we start putting in
specific ways to generate a backend tag (<\1> in this case), we lose the
backend-independence that is one of the main selling points of txt2tags.

Though maybe it's just that my expectations are off.  What's the feeling of
the t2t community?  Are nontrivial t2t documents generally created with a
specific back-end in mind?

galen


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Re: Interpreted marks in title tags and named links

Aurelio Jargas — 2013-04-04T19:58:51

Hi Galen,

I'm sorry this makes you sad, but it's a design decision made to keep the
program simple.

Postproc filters are the way to do it, as you already did. Maybe you could
simplify your customized mark to just {{i}} or even {i}?


On Thursday, April 4, 2013, Galen Menzel wrote:

Interpreted marks in title tags and named links

Galen Menzel — 2013-04-04T18:39:58

Hi all.

I'm trying to find a way to get interpreted marks inside a title tag or a
named link.  For example, say I want a section of my document to have the
title

Why *Wuthering Heights* should not be taught in school

Doing this the naive way

  == Why //Wuthering Heights// should not be taught in school ==

doesn't work, because marks are not interpreted inside of title tags.  The
only thing I've been able to figure out is to use a postproc filter like

%!postproc(html): "TAG{(.*?)}" <\1>

and then use this inside the title tags:

  == Why TAG{i}Wuthering HeightsTAG{/i} should not be taught in school ==

Of course, this makes me sad for many reasons.  A similar problem happens
in named links, and I'm sure in many other places where marks aren't
interpreted.  I've looked and looked and can't find a nice way to do this.
 Does anyone have any advice for me?

Thanks!

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Re: mark2tags, the new lightweight markup langage.

Bastien — 2013-04-02T05:41:01

Hi Joe,

Joe <joebsullivan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> writes:


Oh, and you forgot Org-mode!

  http://orgmode.org

I plan to write a txt2tags exporter for Org one day,
so part of your problem might be solved then :)

Re: mark2tags, the new lightweight markup langage.

Joe — 2013-04-02T04:41:58

2013-04-01T10:42:02-0700, eforgeot-Qt13gs6zZMY< at >public.gmane.org wrote: 

This prank is cruel on a guy who almost daily
thinks, "Should I use vimwiki?  Or asciidoc?  No,
I should use txt2tags and then if I need asciidoc
I can convert it.  Oh, but I also have pandoc
installed.  I should try out rst.  Who am I trying
to kid, all I really need is markdown.  Oh, but
the ordered lists are actual numbers---I hate
that.  But t2t ordered lists need a double space
after them, that's annoying.  I could use markdown
syntax with vimwiki...I need to read that
documentation..." &c., &c.  My hopes were up. ;)

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Re: mark2tags, the new lightweight markup langage.

Aurelio Jargas — 2013-04-01T22:59:13

We've had to keep it secret to avoid the competition from stealing that
great idea from us! :)

On Monday, April 1, 2013, Florent Gallaire wrote:

Re: mark2tags, the new lightweight markup langage.

Florent Gallaire — 2013-04-01T18:43:44

Excellent Eric :-)
Aurelio, you could have talked about it before !
mark2tags for the win !

Florent

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Re: mark2tags, the new lightweight markup langage.

Aurelio Jargas — 2013-04-01T18:03:17

Nice one Eric! You've made my day :)


On Monday, April 1, 2013, Forgeot Eric wrote:

mark2tags, the new lightweight markup langage.

Forgeot Eric — 2013-04-01T17:42:02

John Gruber and Aurelio Jargas, the respective founders of markdown and txt2tags, have just announced the imminent release of mark2tags, the future of wiki markup.

It will be the next industry standard, with an innovative syntax everyone will agree on.


"mark2tags, the last wiki syntax you'll ever need to learn. Period."



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Re: txt2tags generating wrong asciidoc ?

Aurelio Jargas — 2013-02-14T12:15:59

Great job Eric!

On Wednesday, February 13, 2013, Pradeep Jindal wrote:

Re: txt2tags generating wrong asciidoc ?

Pradeep Jindal — 2013-02-13T06:06:46

Thanks. That's the correct asciidoc syntax for lists. I will test further
and let you know.

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Re: txt2tags generating wrong asciidoc ?

Forgeot Eric — 2013-02-12T23:28:10

Hello Pradeep,

I don't know much asciidoc, but I think you're right. 

I've just commited some changes in the txt2tags code, can you test this one and tell me if it looks ok for you: https://txt2tags.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/txt2tags ?

Now we get 

* item
** subitem

instead of 


- item
  - subitem

Thank you for your report.





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Objet : [t2t] txt2tags generating wrong asciidoc ?
 

Hi,

I am using txt2tags version "txt2tags version 2.6 <http://txt2tags.org>" and I am using it to generate asciidoc. It seems its generating wrong asciidoc, is it a bug or something?

====test.t2t====


%!target   : adoc
%!encoding : UTF-8

- Item
  - Sub Item
====text.t2t====

generates

====test.adoc====



- Item
  - Sub Item
====test.adoc====

Notice the list markup in generated adoc.