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Re: (Re-)introducing Wikimaps

Maarten Dammers — 2013-05-04T15:22:01

Small update:
* Tim managed to get into the prototype machine on labs so he can 
install things (or might already have done that)
* Susanna and I submitted a talk about this for Wikimania, see 
https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Wikimaps

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Re: (Re-)introducing Wikimaps

Susanna Ånäs — 2013-04-26T18:29:28

Great news, Tim & Maarten!

I'll be following what you come up with.

Cheers,
Susanna


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Re: (Re-)introducing Wikimaps

Maarten Dammers — 2013-04-26T18:12:44

Hi Tim,

Op 25-4-2013 15:38, Tim Waters schreef:
I'm quite happy that we now have a bigger group of people who are 
interested in doing something with this!
Sorry for not following up earlier on this.
Oh great, that should get us started. Do you have an account at 
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page ? If you create one, we 
can give you access to our test instance.
You might want to consider going to 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Amsterdam_Hackathon_2013 . It has a 
waiting list now, but I might be able to squeeze you in.

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(Re-)introducing Wikimaps

Tim Waters — 2013-04-25T13:38:55

Hi folks,

Just a quick introduction.
I am also involved with historical maps,  OpenStreetMap and the OHM
project in general

I'm also the developer behind mapwarper.net  - I've chatted with
Maarten and a couple of others from wikimedia in the past at assorted
conferences about effectively putting mapwarper on the wikimedia
toolservers - and am glad that this project seems to be gathering some
interested again.

Please do count me in for any help you may need to install this code
(https://github.com/timwaters/mapwarper) , any questions and anything
else you may encounter if you choose to go ahead with using mapwarper.

Cheers,

Tim Waters

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Re: (Re-)introducing Wikimaps

Susanna Ånäs — 2013-04-17T16:47:16

MapWarper http://mapwarper.net/ is basically the key option for the
Wikimaps concept to do the georeferencing. There are others, such as the
Georeferencer, http://www.georeferencer.org/, used by the British Library
http://www.bl.uk/maps/ project, but the source code is proprietary, though
heavily influenced by MapWarper 1. Should the development of the MapWarper
be continued?

If one wants to install an open source GIS environment, the way to go is
QuantumGIS, http://www.qgis.org/.

But I am by no means a GIS expert, instead a maps enthusiast.

Best,
Susanna

1 http://www.dlib.org/dlib/november12/fleet/11fleet.html


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Re: (Re-)introducing Wikimaps

Kai Krueger — 2013-04-17T16:12:42

You might want to have a look at http://mapwarper.net/
That page looks like it can georeference and tile old scanned maps.

<http://mapwarper.net/>


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Re: (Re-)introducing Wikimaps

Susanna Ånäs — 2013-04-17T11:15:11

Hi Tim,

Please do forward to the list, I in fact thought you had already done so. I
will start working on the project page I promised.

Let's meet in Amsterdam!

Best,
Susanna


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Re: (Re-)introducing Wikimaps

Lars Aronsson — 2013-04-17T05:42:48

Do you know how to georeference scanned maps?
I have plenty of scanned maps of Sweden that are
out of copyright. A few are uploaded to Commons,
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Generalstabskartan_s%C3%B6dra_1880
but there are plenty more. And I haven't taken the
time to learn how to do something intelligent with them.

Re: (Re-)introducing Wikimaps

Tim Alder — 2013-04-16T21:22:34

Hello Susanna,
really nice to see.
Please forwarding your mail to historic OpenStreetMap project:
Email: historic< at >openstreetmap.org
Mailinglist archive: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic
Wiki-page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OHM

They use OpenStreetMap techniques (JOSM, PostGIS, Mapnik,...) to create 
a vectorize database for historical content and have now the first test 
system online:
http://www.ohmap.org/?lat=47.6088&lon=-122.32834&zoom=15

I see a great potential if we can use OSM to reference historical maps , 
than historic-OSM can use these maps to vectorize elements and at the 
end we can use some of the elements in our articles (WIWOSM).

See you in Amsterdam.
Greeting kolossos

BTW: I hope we get really soon a decision from the foundation that we 
will have a full OSM database at WMlabs. We need it.


Am 16.04.2013 22:50, schrieb Susanna Ånäs:


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(Re-)introducing Wikimaps

Susanna Ånäs — 2013-04-16T20:50:52

Hi Everyone!

My name is Susanna Ånäs and I am active in the Finnish Wikimedia. We have a
cooperation project going with the Finnish National Archives with their
historical maps and this has given us the opportunity to look anew at the
Wikimaps environment.
http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiprojekti_Historialliset_kartat/In_english

Wikimaps was introduced as a concept by Maarten Dammers
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Multichill/Wikimaps. The idea is to
combine environments in Wikimedia to form a maps environment for scanned
(historical) maps. I introduced the idea at GLAM-Wiki in London and I have
my presentation slides on Sideshare at
http://www.slideshare.net/susannaanas/glam-wiki-wikimaps.

A test environment is planned to be put up for testing for the Amsterdam
Hackathon, more info to follow. Let's put up a Wikimaps page in
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wikimaps and gather material
there (Feel free to start, I have not yet had the time :)

Please let's discuss the project

Crowd-Beitrag in der SZ

Catrin Schoneville — 2013-04-03T10:45:59

Hallo zusammen,

gerade einen Artikel aus der SZ gefunden. OSM wird genannt - wen es
interessiert (leider nur als pdf)....

Grüße! Catrin.

Re: IP Renumbering of the complete Toolserver cluster (fwd)

Marlen Caemmerer — 2013-04-02T08:21:15

Hello,

unfortunatelly maintenances regarding this topic are not finished yet.
It turned out configuring both IP ranges on the head nodes / balancers is way 
to complicated.
Additionally not all other hosts have been renumbered.

Thats why I announce the maintenance of the following hosts for

tomorrow 1800 UTC - 2100 UTC

hemlock.toolserver.org.
clematis.toolserver.org.
willow.toolserver.org.
hawthorn.toolserver.org.
submit.toolserver.org.
daphne.toolserver.org.



On Friday I will do a really big maintenance and renumber the head nodes 
(damiana & turnera) and the web servers (ortelius & wolfsbane)

1900 UTC - 2359 UTC (hope to not need this window completely)

Since a lot of testing has to be done I really appreciate any help you can give 
here.



Kind regards
 Marlen

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Re: IP Renumbering of the complete Toolserver cluster

Kai Krueger — 2013-03-22T19:57:28

Speaking of IPv6 and IP renumbering, I noticed that despite the general 
good support of IPv6 on the toolserver, the tile / web server doesn't 
seem to have an IPv6 DNS entry?

Oh, I see there is a ticket regarding this ( 
https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-1195 ). Have those issues by any 
chance resolved them selves through general software updates and it is 
possible to enable the AAAA record again?

Kai

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Re: IP Renumbering of the complete Toolserver cluster

Maarten Dammers — 2013-03-22T19:15:48

Op 22-3-2013 10:43, Daniel Kinzler schreef:
Yeah, good luck. But why are you doing this exactly? I assume ipv6 won't 
be affected?

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Re: IP Renumbering of the complete Toolserver cluster

Daniel Kinzler — 2013-03-22T09:43:51

Wow, best of luck :/

IP Renumbering of the complete Toolserver cluster

Marlen Caemmerer — 2013-03-22T09:06:05

Hello,

Toolserver needs a complete change of the officially assigned IP addresses.
Every accessible service will be involved.

This involves several maintenances that will cause interruptions.
The maintenances will also cause interuptions for OSM.

To see if everything comes up correctly reboots will be necessary on all regarding servers.

I will start with parallel IP setup at the load balancers/head nodes damiana and turnera.

I will do this next Thursday, 28th March 20-22 h UTC.

The next maintenances will involve the login servers, web and mail servers.
They will happen at Friday, 29th March 20 - 22h UTC and Sunday, 31th March 20 - 22h UTC.

I hope everything will work after that.

Cheers
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Re: What's going on

Daniel Schwen — 2013-03-15T16:14:20

OpenSeaMap does not look ready for production. I get tons of broken
tiles there. We'd have to host the tiles ourselves.
To be honest I do not think that it is a good idea to start hosting
tons of different tilesets, just because they are there.
I'd start of with the bare minimum and focus on what is important for
encyclopedic applications. The location of shipping lanes and
individual marker buoys (or whatever those are called) does not strike
me as information that i terribly relevant for our average reader.

That being said, we should definitely have this discussion once we
have an initial setup deployed. THEN we can gather feedback from the
users and think about broadening our map offers.

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Re: What's going on

Markus — 2013-03-15T14:58:28

Hello Tim,


Great news!


I would suggest to include also www.OpenSeaMap.org

In OpenSeaMap, Wikipedia is already integrated:
http://map.openseamap.org/map/?zoom=11&lat=36.0238&lon=-5.46748&layers=BFTTTTTFFTT0FF

Best regards,
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What's going on

Tim Alder — 2013-03-13T21:23:13

Hello,
we had a meeting[1] where we talk about map related stuff. There were 
two groups of things we want to move from toolserver to Wikimedia 
foundation infrastructure, one is production system the other is all the 
other beautiful experimental stuff:

*Production system: This system will be maintained by the mobile team 
together with operations. The render stack will be designed for max. 
output and high stability. So the actual plan is to have four render 
servers (Mapnik/mod-tile) using shared object storage(Ceph) for 
metatiles and a caching layer in front of them (Varnish).
At beginning the most import style is OSM-default. Other styles like 
OSM-no-labels, multilingual styles, Wikiminiatlas-style and hikebikemap 
comes perhaps later.

*Experimental system: For this we will use Wikilabs together with an 
external OSM-database server. The database layout will be the same as on 
toolserver. The database server will take longer (we calculate with 
around 2 months and then more time to move) so we will

Fwd: List of tools on the toolserver - Help needed

Kolossos — 2013-02-19T17:29:47

Hello together,
please add also your OSM-tools to this list:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Toolserver/List_of_Tools

Use "OpenStreetMap" as type in the table.

I believe we really need an actual overview to get a good place in new 
foundation environments for map stuff.

9-10th March will be a meeting with the foundation, afterwards we will
know more about the future of OSM at Wikimedia.

Styles that we are rendering are in my eyes a different topic, but we 
have also to talk which styles are still active, have which priorities.
(An update to Mapnik 2  will be necessary.) It would be also interesting 
to talk about new ideas for styles.

Greetings Kolossos


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[Maps-1] wiki travel released soon

Florian LAINEZ — 2013-01-11T10:51:10

Hello,
I'm Florian, a french OpenStreetMap contributor.
I see that wiki voyage will be soon launched, and it's definitely a maps
oriented project.

I noticed that the geographical coordinates are displayed top right-hand
corner but for very few articles (ex.
New-York<http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/New_York_City>OK but
Stuttgart <http://fr.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Stuttgart> no).
On every page there is a link to the wikipedia article:
[[Wikipedia:Stuttgart]]
And as you probably know most of the wikipedia pages are already geolocated
with their coordinate and also with their OpenStreetMap's object.

Suggested action: import wikipedia coordinates to wiki voyage. I think
their is no maintenance problem because geographical places usually don't
move ^^

Other topic: their no mini-map top right-hand corner next to the
coordinates as on wikipedia.

Least but not last: their is a lot of pointed out places within the pages
but none of them are geolocated
ex.: *Tour Eiffel and its Parc du Champ de Mars, Les Invalides, Musé