http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.recreation.cars.saab.vintage hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.recreation.cars.saab.vintage/35983 <pre> --- In vSAAB-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org, Jason Bailey &lt;chickenhole&lt; at &gt;...&gt; wrote: Tom is a Saab GoodGuy[tm] to say the least! With Bonneville records and heritage collection cars -- as he says -- he's got too many. CALL HIM! "I have many more vintage Saab's for sale also, please call with any questions!! Tom Donney Fort Dodge, Iowa Cell Phone Number 515-368-7222" Ray ------------------------------------ </pre> Ray Kopczynski 2013-05-23T22:27:39 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.recreation.cars.saab.vintage/35982 <pre>What is the over under on how long until this shows up on BaT? Or maybe it is too rough being paintless... I'll be bidding! We have a couple V4's that are waiting to be done so might as well get this one through the assembly line at the same time. Any speculation on final price? under 8k? Under 5? Over 15!! Not often these come up and not one that I have seen since Sonett have started to 'pop'. I will be shocked if this breaks records given its terrible shape, but If you want, this is one of a few chances. Worries me that Tom isn't doing this one in his shop though... no upside? no time? Too many Sonett II's and he has become immune to their charm? On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Bill Trench &lt;btren-p32f3XyCuykqcZcGjlUOXw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: </pre> Jason Bailey 2013-05-23T21:58:32 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.recreation.cars.saab.vintage/35981 <pre> this will be fun to watch ------------------------------------ </pre> Bill Trench 2013-05-23T21:24:34 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.recreation.cars.saab.vintage/35980 <pre>Now up for grabs! http://search.ebay.com/181146014056 Ray Kopczynski Albany, OR ------------------------------------ </pre> Ray Kopczynski 2013-05-23T19:19:34 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.recreation.cars.saab.vintage/35979 <pre>[img]http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/UK_Sub/saabshop_zps6a4c51e6.jpg[/img] The Saab Shop is launching soon with some exciting new products specifically designed for the 2-stroke, including silicone water hoses, wrapped in authentic cloth tape to match the original 50s/60s versions, tuned exhausts, rubber door seals and much, much more! More info to follow... tell all your stroker friends!! The shop is based in the UK, but International shipping will be available. All enquiries to thesaabshop-PkbjNfxxIAQqdlJmJB21zg&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org ------------------------------------ </pre> Simon 2013-05-23T15:40:25 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.recreation.cars.saab.vintage/35978 <pre>It was one that came with the car, I can't remember the name of the fuel cell company right now (Fuel Safe?) but this was on Dick Brown's (?) car that ran in the Northeast. When checking with a local vintage racing group they said that I needed an upgrade as they do have a limited lifespan and sure enough, this one was getting really icky. Lester On May 22, 2013, at 1:58 06PM, Stefan Vapaa wrote: </pre> Lester Ewing 2013-05-22T21:00:20 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.recreation.cars.saab.vintage/35977 <pre>Just under $15,000 at today's exchange rate, and looking like it's worth every penny. Car was purchased on this date 33 years ago, and looks like it's barely been driven since. In storage ten years, yadda yadda....wow. What a beauty. http://www.blocket.se/goteborg/SAAB_96_GL_Super_UNIK_47276203.htm?aw=1 Phil </pre> Phil Lacefield Jr. 2013-05-22T19:59:20 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.recreation.cars.saab.vintage/35976 <pre>my dad once bought a cheap inflatable kayak and the sheet stated it was guaranteed for the life of the product. ------------------------------------ </pre> Bill Trench 2013-05-22T19:45:31 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.recreation.cars.saab.vintage/35975 <pre>"lifetime of your car"??? What's *that* supposed to mean? :0) Xenon --- In vSAAB-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org, &lt;m.hilvers&lt; at &gt;...&gt; wrote: ------------------------------------ </pre> xherrmann 2013-05-22T19:28:57 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.recreation.cars.saab.vintage/35974 <pre>Perhaps because it was never rated for ethanol? --Patrick On May 22, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Lester Ewing &lt;oldsaabguy-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: </pre> Patrick Quinlan 2013-05-22T19:01:14 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.recreation.cars.saab.vintage/35973 <pre>Brand X has twin tanks with custom bladers. I was told they specifically had an expected life span. The 93F has a vynal tank inside a custom made cell . That one is a "replace foam" type. Chuck 93F #251 Sent from my LG Mobile Lester Ewing &lt;oldsaabguy-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: ------------------------------------ </pre> Chuck 93F #251 2013-05-22T18:54:11 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.recreation.cars.saab.vintage/35972 <pre>Ah, ok. I stand corrected. I haven't heard of that happening before. Was it one you commissioned and owned throughout its life? Or was is pre-used? On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Lester Ewing &lt;oldsaabguy-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt;wrote: </pre> Stefan Vapaa 2013-05-22T18:58:06 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.recreation.cars.saab.vintage/35971 <pre>Not mine, the bladder turned into a gooey substance, fuel leaked right out. Had to be thrown away and the fine folks who made it did not keep any plans/SN's prior to the three units made after mine. Hence the plastic one in the Quantum. No really, it failed. Lester On May 22, 2013, at 12:00 38PM, Stefan Vapaa wrote: </pre> Lester Ewing 2013-05-22T17:54:25 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.recreation.cars.saab.vintage/35970 <pre>Ford Pintos has a bladder added...but not for rust Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Lester Ewing &lt;oldsaabguy-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: </pre> Harry 2013-05-22T17:33:09 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.recreation.cars.saab.vintage/35969 <pre>No, not the bladder. The foam does deteriorate and needs to be replaced after 10 years or so. That's easily done through an access hole and should be scheduled as preventive maintenance. The bladder itself is more or less a lifetime component though. On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Lester Ewing &lt;oldsaabguy-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt;wrote: </pre> Stefan Vapaa 2013-05-22T17:00:38 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.recreation.cars.saab.vintage/35968 <pre>...but the bladder will deteriorate over time and you won't know it until you replace your filter/pump for the umpteenth time. Had it happen to the Quantum with it's custom cell/bladder. I've tried liners with poor results (Professionally applied) Bugeye folks swear by putting in a bunch of nuts and bolts and mildly soapy water and boiling over the family grill for a while and then sloshing around and pouring out. Braze / weld as needed. Similar to what Ken suggested. Lester On May 22, 2013, at 9:06 35AM, Stefan Vapaa wrote: </pre> Lester Ewing 2013-05-22T16:48:22 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.recreation.cars.saab.vintage/35967 <pre>Well, Fredrik should wash up after himself, shouldn't he??? On May 21, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Phil Lacefield Jr. wrote: </pre> SAABNUT 2013-05-22T14:27:29 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.recreation.cars.saab.vintage/35966 <pre>Techniques for restoring tanks are wide ranging. Some are easier, some are more effective, some are pure entertainment. There is one technique that I haven't heard mentioned yet, perhaps because of the expense involved. You can send your tank to a fuel cell manufacturer and have them fabricate a custom bladder that will fit inside your tank. Externally, the tank appears stock but internally you have a puncture resistant bladder (and optional anti-slosh foam) that is in effect a brand new tank (that never rusts) inside of the old one. While the stock tank is not as sturdy as a modern fuel cell enclosure, safety is still significantly increased. While I've never done this, I know it is possible. On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 1:51 AM, SC &lt;scrocker1-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: </pre> Stefan Vapaa 2013-05-22T14:06:35 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.recreation.cars.saab.vintage/35965 <pre>+1 on gravel. An industrial dryer at a laundromat can be substituted for a cement mixer. Box the tank with lots of padding and bring moving blankets to fill the empty space in the dryer. For rust, you might try Google'ing articles on rust removal using molasses. Some of my friends have tried that with good results, and it's biodegradable. Liners can be a mixed bag. Sometimes I think they are more useful to encapsulate/capture existing small particles than to prevent future corrosion. ---SC --- In vSAAB-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org, "Ken" &lt;hardhatz&lt; at &gt;...&gt; wrote: ------------------------------------ </pre> SC 2013-05-22T05:51:29 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.recreation.cars.saab.vintage/35964 <pre>They were released this morning, and early indicators (I've been reading the Swedish media lots this morning, they're salivating all over it) point towards trumped-up witch-hunt charges, since they can't go after Victor himself directly. It's a load of crap, basically. Phil On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Patrick Quinlan &lt;pjq-ee4meeAH724&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: </pre> Phil Lacefield Jr. 2013-05-21T20:19:56 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.recreation.cars.saab.vintage/35963 <pre>And so it goes... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22608343 ------------------------------------ </pre> Patrick Quinlan 2013-05-21T20:17:48 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.recreation.cars.saab.vintage