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HankRoth — 2012-03-08T21:20:06

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HankRoth — 2012-03-08T18:52:59

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HankRoth — 2012-03-08T16:49:37

It has been awhile since I've used PNEWS-L at Yahoo. Many of you started with PNEWS long before we migrated to Yahoo. Some of you were here on the old FidoNet and some of you were with us when we used the Listserver at St Johns. 

Lately I have been playing around with some of the social networks, first Facebook and then Google plus. Like so much on the InterNUT, these were new trends; fads which run their course. I don't doubt that you have used them too and most of you are likely still there on one or more of them. I think forums are far better. The blogs didn't work out for long. You saw them come and go and the social networks will follow in that direction. If you want to really trade views, you need to do it in a forum and Yahoo still provides, IMHO, the best venue for doing that. I also have a listserver installed at inyourface.info which I use for one way communications. Some of you are on that list (and some of you are receiving this on that list). 

I have some configuration changes to make, but I t

File - Ponder This

2012-03-01T09:13:35

Are the laws of nature the same everywhere in the Universe?
Or, is our little piece of the Universe what it is because of the
environment where we live?

OR, is the Universe the way it is, our piece of it at least, just so
physicists can be here to observe it? (g) We live on a unique planet with
liquid water and our laws of nature have  adapted to this unique
environment.

I think the Universe is a big random place, very inhospitable to our
kind of life, but for other forms of life the possiblities are unlimited.

I think each pocket of space has different laws of nature and vastly
different landscapes and much more than we can imagine is possible.

Ponder this: Dark Matter is 25%. Dark Energy is 70% of the Universe. 
 And Atoms only make up about 5% of the Universe.

Ponder This:

What if to the whole of everything we are small like subatomic human particles?

Or what if we are food for aliens who seeded this rock millions of          
years ago with DNA and let it evolve and they will one day return to ea

File - Ponder This

2012-02-01T09:11:00

Are the laws of nature the same everywhere in the Universe?
Or, is our little piece of the Universe what it is because of the
environment where we live?

OR, is the Universe the way it is, our piece of it at least, just so
physicists can be here to observe it? (g) We live on a unique planet with
liquid water and our laws of nature have  adapted to this unique
environment.

I think the Universe is a big random place, very inhospitable to our
kind of life, but for other forms of life the possiblities are unlimited.

I think each pocket of space has different laws of nature and vastly
different landscapes and much more than we can imagine is possible.

Ponder this: Dark Matter is 25%. Dark Energy is 70% of the Universe. 
 And Atoms only make up about 5% of the Universe.

Ponder This:

What if to the whole of everything we are small like subatomic human particles?

Or what if we are food for aliens who seeded this rock millions of          
years ago with DNA and let it evolve and they will one day return to ea

File - Ponder This

2011-09-01T08:12:49

Are the laws of nature the same everywhere in the Universe?
Or, is our little piece of the Universe what it is because of the
environment where we live?

OR, is the Universe the way it is, our piece of it at least, just so
physicists can be here to observe it? (g) We live on a unique planet with
liquid water and our laws of nature have  adapted to this unique
environment.

I think the Universe is a big random place, very inhospitable to our
kind of life, but for other forms of life the possiblities are unlimited.

I think each pocket of space has different laws of nature and vastly
different landscapes and much more than we can imagine is possible.

Ponder this: Dark Matter is 25%. Dark Energy is 70% of the Universe. 
 And Atoms only make up about 5% of the Universe.

Ponder This:

What if to the whole of everything we are small like subatomic human particles?

Or what if we are food for aliens who seeded this rock millions of          
years ago with DNA and let it evolve and they will one day return to ea

File - Ponder This

2011-08-01T08:07:12

Are the laws of nature the same everywhere in the Universe?
Or, is our little piece of the Universe what it is because of the
environment where we live?

OR, is the Universe the way it is, our piece of it at least, just so
physicists can be here to observe it? (g) We live on a unique planet with
liquid water and our laws of nature have  adapted to this unique
environment.

I think the Universe is a big random place, very inhospitable to our
kind of life, but for other forms of life the possiblities are unlimited.

I think each pocket of space has different laws of nature and vastly
different landscapes and much more than we can imagine is possible.

Ponder this: Dark Matter is 25%. Dark Energy is 70% of the Universe. 
 And Atoms only make up about 5% of the Universe.

Ponder This:

What if to the whole of everything we are small like subatomic human particles?

Or what if we are food for aliens who seeded this rock millions of          
years ago with DNA and let it evolve and they will one day return to ea

Re: [wormhole] Leave the Middle Class and Seniors Alone - Tax the Rich

Robert Blau — 2011-07-30T21:00:09


Better idea: Eliminate all taxes on PRODUCTIVE activity, and instead tax
 
only UNproductive activity -- monopoly and special privilege, especially
 
monopoly, hoarding, and speculation in LAND (in the broadest sense of
the word, including all natural resources). Fund social security,
universal medical care, and anything else you want out of the economic
RENT on the natural world that currently goes (illegitimately,
counterproductively, and without any justification) into private hands
who do absolutely nothing to earn it.
 
See:
http://geonomics.org
http://course.earthrights.net
http://hgchicago.org
 
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  Hank Roth, on the InterNUT since 1982 
Past (post) Command

File - Ponder This

2011-07-01T08:14:38

Are the laws of nature the same everywhere in the Universe?
Or, is our little piece of the Universe what it is because of the
environment where we live?

OR, is the Universe the way it is, our piece of it at least, just so
physicists can be here to observe it? (g) We live on a unique planet with
liquid water and our laws of nature have  adapted to this unique
environment.

I think the Universe is a big random place, very inhospitable to our
kind of life, but for other forms of life the possiblities are unlimited.

I think each pocket of space has different laws of nature and vastly
different landscapes and much more than we can imagine is possible.

Ponder this: Dark Matter is 25%. Dark Energy is 70% of the Universe. 
 And Atoms only make up about 5% of the Universe.

Ponder This:

What if to the whole of everything we are small like subatomic human particles?

Or what if we are food for aliens who seeded this rock millions of          
years ago with DNA and let it evolve and they will one day return to ea

Why We Chose The Flathead Valley Of Montana by Chuck Baldwin, June9, 2011

2011-06-18T12:13:31

Interesting essay . . .

From: chuck-CX6omTrctCYLrFzoaVRRbVaTQe2KTcn/< at >public.gmane.org(Chuck Baldwin) Date: Fri, Jun 10,
2011, 12:43pm To: robert-blau-cOGeTnvA3KleoWH0uzbU5w< at >public.gmane.org Subject: Why We Chose The
Flathead Valley Of Montana by Chuck Baldwin, June 9, 2011 

Why We Chose The Flathead Valley Of Montana By Chuck Baldwin 
June 9, 2011 

Archived column: 
http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/home/?p=3662 

Last weekend, we had people visit us here in the Flathead Valley of
Montana from at least eight states: Oregon, Washington, Arizona, New
Mexico, Colorado, Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. And since my family and
I moved here last October, people have moved here from at least a dozen
states. And many more are in the process of moving or trying to move. 

As I was speaking with an out-of-State guest last Sunday, he asked me,
what was it that made you decide to move to Montanaâs Flathead
Valley, as opposed to Idaho or some other State? Of course, that is a
very fair question. I will attempt to answer

Slipping into Newspeak

2011-06-18T02:51:41

[dailywritingtips.com]

Slipping into Newspeak 
Posted: 16 Jun 2011 07:59 AM PDT
 
One of the scariest things I've read lately is this comment in a
language forum:
"America is based on the tradition of divergent thinking? There was a
time when nuances were important; larger vocabularies were needed. 
These vocabularies will soon be superfluous as we move into an age where
communications are devised and sent in the most efficient manner
available." (Emphasis added.)

Anyone who has read George Orwell's 1984 will hear in this comment an
echo of the character Syme's conversation with Winston about the
shrinking size of the Newspeak dictionary:

"We're getting the language into its final shape.  We're destroying
words  scores of them, hundreds of them, every day. We're cutting the
language down to the bone. The Eleventh Edition [of the Newspeak
dictionary] won't contain a single word that will become obsolete before
the year 2050."

Rules of grammar that contribute to precision of thought are already
breakin

File - Ponder This

2011-06-01T08:30:26

Are the laws of nature the same everywhere in the Universe?
Or, is our little piece of the Universe what it is because of the
environment where we live?

OR, is the Universe the way it is, our piece of it at least, just so
physicists can be here to observe it? (g) We live on a unique planet with
liquid water and our laws of nature have  adapted to this unique
environment.

I think the Universe is a big random place, very inhospitable to our
kind of life, but for other forms of life the possiblities are unlimited.

I think each pocket of space has different laws of nature and vastly
different landscapes and much more than we can imagine is possible.

Ponder this: Dark Matter is 25%. Dark Energy is 70% of the Universe. 
 And Atoms only make up about 5% of the Universe.

Ponder This:

What if to the whole of everything we are small like subatomic human particles?

Or what if we are food for aliens who seeded this rock millions of          
years ago with DNA and let it evolve and they will one day return to ea

File - Ponder This

2011-05-01T08:36:52

Are the laws of nature the same everywhere in the Universe?
Or, is our little piece of the Universe what it is because of the
environment where we live?

OR, is the Universe the way it is, our piece of it at least, just so
physicists can be here to observe it? (g) We live on a unique planet with
liquid water and our laws of nature have  adapted to this unique
environment.

I think the Universe is a big random place, very inhospitable to our
kind of life, but for other forms of life the possiblities are unlimited.

I think each pocket of space has different laws of nature and vastly
different landscapes and much more than we can imagine is possible.

Ponder this: Dark Matter is 25%. Dark Energy is 70% of the Universe. 
 And Atoms only make up about 5% of the Universe.

Ponder This:

What if to the whole of everything we are small like subatomic human particles?

Or what if we are food for aliens who seeded this rock millions of          
years ago with DNA and let it evolve and they will one day return to ea

File - Ponder This

2011-04-01T08:48:44

Are the laws of nature the same everywhere in the Universe?
Or, is our little piece of the Universe what it is because of the
environment where we live?

OR, is the Universe the way it is, our piece of it at least, just so
physicists can be here to observe it? (g) We live on a unique planet with
liquid water and our laws of nature have  adapted to this unique
environment.

I think the Universe is a big random place, very inhospitable to our
kind of life, but for other forms of life the possiblities are unlimited.

I think each pocket of space has different laws of nature and vastly
different landscapes and much more than we can imagine is possible.

Ponder this: Dark Matter is 25%. Dark Energy is 70% of the Universe. 
 And Atoms only make up about 5% of the Universe.

Ponder This:

What if to the whole of everything we are small like subatomic human particles?

Or what if we are food for aliens who seeded this rock millions of          
years ago with DNA and let it evolve and they will one day return to ea

File - Ponder This

2011-03-01T09:48:40

Are the laws of nature the same everywhere in the Universe?
Or, is our little piece of the Universe what it is because of the
environment where we live?

OR, is the Universe the way it is, our piece of it at least, just so
physicists can be here to observe it? (g) We live on a unique planet with
liquid water and our laws of nature have  adapted to this unique
environment.

I think the Universe is a big random place, very inhospitable to our
kind of life, but for other forms of life the possiblities are unlimited.

I think each pocket of space has different laws of nature and vastly
different landscapes and much more than we can imagine is possible.

Ponder this: Dark Matter is 25%. Dark Energy is 70% of the Universe. 
 And Atoms only make up about 5% of the Universe.

Ponder This:

What if to the whole of everything we are small like subatomic human particles?

Or what if we are food for aliens who seeded this rock millions of          
years ago with DNA and let it evolve and they will one day return to ea

John Dewey on Henry George, from 1924

2011-02-09T18:27:59

[Posted at taxshift <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/taxshift>]

John Dewey on HG, from 1924 

        Posted by: "Wyn Achenbaum" wyn-WLSjfFmUuNUybS5Ee8rs3A< at >public.gmane.org
lvtfan   Date: Mon Feb 7, 2011 2:38 pm ((PST)) 

I'm reading a monthly California Single Tax Journal called Tax Facts,
and came across this in the April, 1924 number.   (The abridgment
described in the blurb which follows it is for Anna George deMille and
Louis Post's abridgment of P&P, a copy of which I recently bought on
ebay, for the minimum bid of $5 or so -- signed by AGdM.) 

JOHN DEWEY ON A GREAT BOOK 

Owing to the fact that certain extremists and fanatics have tried to
read into Henry George's works ideas that he never intended to convey, a
great many people who never read them have gotten the     notion
that he advocated Socialism, Communism, Bolshevism, or some    
other wild plan that would destroy private property. As a matter of fact
Henry George was an individualist, a democrat, and believed most
emphatically i

File - Ponder This

2011-02-01T10:06:26

Are the laws of nature the same everywhere in the Universe?
Or, is our little piece of the Universe what it is because of the
environment where we live?

OR, is the Universe the way it is, our piece of it at least, just so
physicists can be here to observe it? (g) We live on a unique planet with
liquid water and our laws of nature have  adapted to this unique
environment.

I think the Universe is a big random place, very inhospitable to our
kind of life, but for other forms of life the possiblities are unlimited.

I think each pocket of space has different laws of nature and vastly
different landscapes and much more than we can imagine is possible.

Ponder this: Dark Matter is 25%. Dark Energy is 70% of the Universe. 
 And Atoms only make up about 5% of the Universe.

Ponder This:

What if to the whole of everything we are small like subatomic human particles?

Or what if we are food for aliens who seeded this rock millions of          
years ago with DNA and let it evolve and they will one day return to ea

File - Ponder This

2011-01-01T10:11:29

Are the laws of nature the same everywhere in the Universe?
Or, is our little piece of the Universe what it is because of the
environment where we live?

OR, is the Universe the way it is, our piece of it at least, just so
physicists can be here to observe it? (g) We live on a unique planet with
liquid water and our laws of nature have  adapted to this unique
environment.

I think the Universe is a big random place, very inhospitable to our
kind of life, but for other forms of life the possiblities are unlimited.

I think each pocket of space has different laws of nature and vastly
different landscapes and much more than we can imagine is possible.

Ponder this: Dark Matter is 25%. Dark Energy is 70% of the Universe. 
 And Atoms only make up about 5% of the Universe.

Ponder This:

What if to the whole of everything we are small like subatomic human particles?

Or what if we are food for aliens who seeded this rock millions of          
years ago with DNA and let it evolve and they will one day return to ea

New Theory of Cosmology

2010-12-02T03:36:07

Cosmic Rebirth  

Most cosmologists trace the birth of the universe to the Big Bang 13.7
billion years ago. But a new analysis of the relic radiation generated
by that explosive event suggests the universe got its start eons earlier
and has cycled through myriad episodes of birth and death, with the Big
Bang merely the most recent in a series of starting guns.

That startling notion, proposed by theoretical physicist Roger Penrose
of 
the University of Oxford in England and Vahe Gurzadyan of the Yerevan 
Physics Institute and Yerevan State University in Armenia, goes against
the 
standard theory of cosmology known as inflation.

The researchers base their findings on circular patterns they discovered 
in the cosmic microwave background, the ubiquitous microwave glow left
over 
from the Big Bang. The circular features indicate that the cosmos itself
circles through epochs of endings and beginnings, Penrose and Gurzadyan 
assert. The researchers describe their controversial findings in an
article 
posted at ar

File - Ponder This

2010-12-01T09:25:29

Are the laws of nature the same everywhere in the Universe?
Or, is our little piece of the Universe what it is because of the
environment where we live?

OR, is the Universe the way it is, our piece of it at least, just so
physicists can be here to observe it? (g) We live on a unique planet with
liquid water and our laws of nature have  adapted to this unique
environment.

I think the Universe is a big random place, very inhospitable to our
kind of life, but for other forms of life the possiblities are unlimited.

I think each pocket of space has different laws of nature and vastly
different landscapes and much more than we can imagine is possible.

Ponder this: Dark Matter is 25%. Dark Energy is 70% of the Universe. 
 And Atoms only make up about 5% of the Universe.

Ponder This:

What if to the whole of everything we are small like subatomic human particles?

Or what if we are food for aliens who seeded this rock millions of          
years ago with DNA and let it evolve and they will one day return to ea

Mouseland run by the cats

2010-11-03T01:58:44

Mouseland run by the cats 

The Premier of Saskatchewan gave the following speech in 1944 when
running for office. It is quite apt in today's America: 

"This is the story of a place called Mouseland. Mouseland was a place
where all the little mice lived and played, were born and died. And they
lived much the same as you and I do. 

They even had a parliament. And every four years they had an election.
Used to walk to the polls and cast their ballots. Some of them even got
a ride to the polls. 
And got a ride for the next four years afterwards, too. Just like you
and me. And every time on election day all the little mice used to go to
the ballot box and they used to elect a government. 
A government made up of big, fat, black cats. 
Now if you think it strange that mice should elect a government of cats,
look at the history of Canada for the last 90 years and maybe you'll see
they weren't any stupider then us. 

Now I'm not saying anything against the cats. They conducted their
government with dignity. They