gmane.os.plan9.general

Re: Showing an image on an o/live window

2012-05-23T02:18:45

By the way, have you tried to write, say, canvas panel?

Kenji

Re: Showing an image on an o/live window

Nemo — 2012-05-22T12:49:10

native there means in the host os of
the pc and the namespace you had there. 


On May 22, 2012, at 2:29 PM, kokamoto< at >hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote:

Re: Showing an image on an o/live window

2012-05-22T12:34:08

Oups!

$OCTOPUS/usr/octopus/port/x/xex.b

sorry

Kenji

Re: Showing an image on an o/live window

2012-05-22T12:29:07

This may also be from the different version of inferno, too.
The $OCTOPUS/usr/octopus/port/lib/os.b file shows the
line of
system(xctx, cmd);
and the cmd= "os -d <dir> rc -c <cmd>" here.

According to my inferno man page, "os" command of the
inferno sh has -m mountpoint option, which we dont't use.
If that option is not used, the defdault is at /cmd directory
which would be linked to _local_ bin...

Too much complicated to me for now.

Kenji

Re: Showing an image on an o/live window

2012-05-22T03:22:01

I'm still confusing.

The PC file tree is exported in the inferno environment, styx, so
the exported PC's (this case Ubuntu) root is /usr/octopus, but not
/ of the ubuntu machine.

I issued the ';page' command from 9front terminal, where ';' indicates
the native OS's command.   What is 'native' here?

Actually, when I issue '!' command on the same terminal,
olive try to find the comand under the _local_ /usr/octopus/dis
directory.   I this this is reasonable, but the ';' case is not.
How do you think?

Kenji

malloc

steve — 2012-05-21T20:31:04

i posted before i got to the end of the thad,

i apologise for the noise.

-Steve

Re: /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-21T05:05:45

Ah, you are running diskless 9front machine?
If so, I might have this solution, too.
I'm not runnig diskless 9front machine now though...

Kenji

Re: /tmp dissappearance

erik quanstrom — 2012-05-21T00:46:52

create tmp sys sys 755 d

- erik

Re: /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20T21:42:17

term% ls -l /srv/cwfs.cmd
---w--w---- s 0 cinap_lenrek cinap_lenrek 0 May  5 10:27 /srv/cwfs.cmd

its write only. output of cwfs goes to /dev/cons (you can capture the
output with /dev/kmesg or /dev/kprint).

the runtime commands are described in fs(8). some commands apply only
to the stand alone kenfs (see fs(4)) filesystem (which cwfs is a port
of to plan9 userspace initialy done by geoff). the differencies are
documented in cwfs(4) manpage.

cwfs also has a config mode (when you start it with -c), then it also
reads from the console on startup until you end config mode with the
"end" command. the syntax for config mode is described in fsconfig(8).

--
cinap

Re: /tmp dissappearance

Ethan Grammatikidis — 2012-05-20T21:33:14

On Sun, 20 May 2012 15:21:48 -0600
Burton Samograd <burton.samograd< at >gmail.com> wrote:


I'm doing this today too. I found I have to type blind, I don't see the prompt or my typing until I press return. You might want to compose your commands in another window and paste. The commands are somewhat different to fossil, 'help' on the console gives a list with very terse explanations; I couldn't find a man page. The least clear command, 'duallow name' allows name to mount with rw permission.

I also don't see a chown or chgrp equivalent on the console (which might be my bad eyes), but after reading the previous thread I decided not to worry about it.

Re: /tmp dissappearance

Burton Samograd — 2012-05-20T21:21:48

Another noob question; how do you start the fs console on cwfs64x?  I
tried 'con /srv/cwfs.cmd'  but get nothing back.  The docs I can find
all relate to fossil and which doesn't look to work the same.

--
Burton Samograd

Re: Lucient Ornico PC24E-H-FC-WIFI

Burton Samograd — 2012-05-20T21:18:02

Awesome, thanks. I clicked the 'Buy Now' button and couldn't back out,
so I'm glad to know I didn't completely waste my money :)

--
Burton Samograd

Re: /tmp dissappearance

Burton Samograd — 2012-05-20T21:16:40

For now, the following works for me:

    mntgen /
    bind -c $home/tmp /tmp

I just added it to my lib/profile and everything is good now.

--
Burton Samograd

Re: /tmp dissappearance

Charles Forsyth — 2012-05-20T20:59:34

the hostowner might not have permission to write in / on the file system
(ie, it's not like unix's "root")
if you try the mount -c /srv/boot /n/boot method:
   h% mount -c /srv/boot /n/boot
   h% ls -ld /n/boot
   d-rwxrwxr-x M 62152 adm adm 0 Mar  2  2010 /n/boot
on my system, i'd need to be adm or someone in group adm. you can add
yourself to
group adm (perhaps not always wise, but i suppose sometimes it's
reasonable), but you need
to use the file system console for that as well.

that's why it's usually easier to create it via the console, as suggested.

On 20 May 2012 21:49, andrew zerger <rhoyerboat< at >gmail.com> wrote:

Re: Reading gmail

Ethan Grammatikidis — 2012-05-20T20:50:23

On Sat, 19 May 2012 22:06:05 +0100
Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth< at >gmail.com> wrote:


You all should chuck your ipads and get palms from about 10-12 years
ago. I loved the onscreen keyboard in my m515. I used it with the
stylus, taptaptaptap, fast entry with practially no mistakes, perhaps
fewer than I make on a keyboard, and this from someone who has trouble
writing due to poor muscle control. With a 160x160 pixel transflective
screen it was usable in bright sunshine too; I used to sit on the Downs
texting my friends. Getting a Zaurus was the worst thing for my social
life. :)

I'm thinking of pairing the palm with my Kindle in a folding case, but
haven't got any real ideas for it other than using the Palm for text
entry and maybe using the original calendar which was nice -- simple
and efficient. I like to write when I'm out in the countryside where
laptops mean neck strain and my Zaurus makes my thumbs ache.

Re: /tmp dissappearance

andrew zerger — 2012-05-20T20:49:43

Well, my hostowner user cant seem to fudge the /tmp either (not by any sane
means such as unmount or rm) if that might reveal anything (including
anything about my own installation, which is admittedly mostly neglected).
Im on qemu-kvm and bell's plan9.iso rather than anything 9front, however

(practical side of me wonders irresponsibly if a reboot would make the
issue go away)
(and why does everytime i get inspired on this OS the contrib directory
goes down and I can't browse? lol)

On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Rudolf Sykora <rudolf.sykora< at >gmail.com>wrote:

Re: /tmp dissappearance

Rudolf Sykora — 2012-05-20T20:36:43

Somewhat related thing might have also been discussed here:

https://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.plan9/browse_thread/thread/2a2ef30c02d77067?pli=1

Re: /tmp dissappearance

steve — 2012-05-20T20:34:06

a simpler way might be to:

    mount -c /srv/fossil /n/fossil
    mkdir /n/fossil/tmp

always assuming you are using fossil and you have write permission in /
which probably means you must be hostowner.

-Steve


On 20 May 2012, at 07:04 PM, Anthony Sorace <a< at >9srv.net> wrote:

Re: Lucient Ornico PC24E-H-FC-WIFI

Antonio Barrones — 2012-05-20T20:27:10

I have that card and it works without problems. It is an orinoco silver pcmcia.
I have another similar, lucent Orinoco, but this time is a Compaq
WL110 and this doesn't work, it is the PCE24E-H-JP

Antonio

Re: /tmp dissappearance

David du Colombier — 2012-05-20T18:27:26

The "/active" part is not mandatory.
It assumes / is /active by default.

Re: Changing ownership of files or chown is missing

Anthony Sorace — 2012-05-20T18:07:32


it's simply not part of the model. we tend to use groups for many
things modern unixes use "special" users for. also our tools tend
to be less paranoid about such things.

you've discovered the most general-purpose alternative already:
copy the file. if you need something beyond that, you need to be
on the file server console (wstat, or srv a permissive version of
the tree).

anthony