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Re: Installing NetBSD 5.1.2 on a Jornada 680 - new hpcboot.exe needed?

2012-04-14T02:48:14

Sysinst pops up just like any other port -- Awesome! I'm running through
the install now. Thanks!

just get dropped at a shell prompt. There are utilities on the ramdisk
including "install" and "upgrade" in the root of the file system. But
when
the mailing list archives with that string. Any ideas?

Re: Installing NetBSD 5.1.2 on a Jornada 680 - new hpcboot.exe needed?

Izumi Tsutsui — 2012-04-14T00:49:35

Try 6.0_BETA.

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Izumi Tsutsui

Re: Installing NetBSD 5.1.2 on a Jornada 680 - new hpcboot.exe needed?

Jason Mitchell — 2012-04-13T23:15:01

The Viliv N5 is close to the same form factor, but unfortunately the 
keyboard is horrible.

Jason M.

On 04/13/2012 06:29 PM, Michael Wileman wrote:

Re: Installing NetBSD 5.1.2 on a Jornada 680 - new hpcboot.exe needed?

Michael Wileman — 2012-04-13T22:29:56


It's a shame someone doesn't make a machine with the same form factor 
but more modern power.

Mike

Re: Installing NetBSD 5.1.2 on a Jornada 680 - new hpcboot.exe needed?

Valeriy E. Ushakov — 2012-04-13T21:24:44


sysinst was never taught how to deal with quirks of hpcsh, since in a
typical setup you want dual-fs CF card with FAT partition that
contains hpcboot and FFS partition that contains the system.  

I guess there's very little motivation to invest any time in that now.
The machines are more than a decade old and are rather underpowered,
so the user base is tiny.

-uwe

CF Data corruption on Jornada 680

2012-04-13T16:11:03

Hello,

I've been seeing a strange problem with two different Jornada 680
handhelds. When copying files to a CF card in the PCMCIA slot, there is
data corruption. Basically I copy a file and then cmp the file with the
original and it doesn't match. Here's how the CF card is identified
(copied by hand):

wdc1: at pcmcia0 function 0: <TRANSCEND, TS4GCF  >
wdc1: i/o mapped mode
atabus1 at wdc1 channel 0:
wd1: at atabus1 drive 0: <TRANSCEND>
wd1: drive supports 1-sector PIO transfers, LBA addressing
wd1: 4011 MB, 8150 cyl, 16 head, 63 sec, 512 bytes/sect x 8215200 sectors

The same CF card and PCMCIA adapter work fine in a Jornada 720. Ideas as
to what the problem might be or how to troubleshoot it?

There is a strange message earlier in dmesg and the other CF card is in
memory mapped mode:

pcmcia0 at hd64461pcmcia0
pcmcia0: CIS checksum failed
pcmcia1 at hd64461pcmcia0
wdc0 at pcmcia 1 function 0: <TRANSCEND, TS1GCF100I, >
wdc0: memory mapped mode

Thanks,

Jason M.

Re: Installing NetBSD 5.1.2 on a Jornada 680 - new hpcboot.exe needed?

2012-03-30T05:42:55

Okay, it turns out that the issue was hpcboot settings. In case someone
runs into this here's the problem an the solution.

When launching hpcboot on a Jornada 680 with the install kernel and the
file system set to md, the Jornada would complain "Unable to allocate
memory". If I increased the program memory as high as it would go, the
hpcboot progress bar would get to the far right then the Jornada would
reboot and show the following error:

bootling cold
exception event code 60
TLB Miss/Invalid (store)

The solution is to set the file system to wd (even though there isn't yet
a ffs file system on the flash card.

There is one more issue. The ramdisk doesn't appear to have sysinst. I
just get dropped at a shell prompt. There are utilities on the ramdisk
including "install" and "upgrade" in the root of the file system. But when
run each utility complains "Can't open //install.md" There's nothing in
the mailing list archives with that string. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Jason M.

Installing NetBSD 5.1.2 on a Jornada 680 - new hpcboot.exe needed?

2012-03-29T14:30:03

Hello,

    Apologies if this shows up twice. I'm having trouble getting the
NetBSD 5.1.2 install kernel to boot on a Jornada 680. The hpcboot
progress bar gets all the way to the end and then the screen goes
black and the Jornada reboots. The list email pasted below suggests
that a new copy of hpcboot.exe would solve my problems. Does anyone
have a copy?

Thanks,

Jason M.

I recall I had some trouble initially that was resolved by getting an
updated hpcboot from someone off the list.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2012, Valeriy E. Ushakov wrote:

    On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 14:37:09 -0800, Devin D wrote:

        /etc/rc.conf is not configured. multiuser boot aborted.
        Enter pathname of shell or RETURN for sh:

        I pressed the enter key and "hpckbd: unknown scan code 0x51 (10, 1)
        then i realized no matter what key I hit i get that same error wiht
        different values at the end.

        Did I do something wrong?

    Which "platform" (model) do you select in hpcboot menu?
    E.g. "Jornada 690 (

Re: Looking for help getting netbsd running on Jornada 690

Michael — 2012-01-09T21:19:30

I recall I had some trouble initially that was resolved by getting an 
updated hpcboot from someone off the list.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2012, Valeriy E. Ushakov wrote:

Re: Looking for help getting netbsd running on Jornada 690

Valeriy E. Ushakov — 2012-01-09T21:06:32


Which "platform" (model) do you select in hpcboot menu?
E.g. "Jornada 690 (US/UK)" &c.

-uwe

Re: Looking for help getting netbsd running on Jornada 690

Devin D — 2012-01-09T22:37:09

I did everything stated on the page 
http://www.netbsd.org/ports/hpcsh/howto-use.html
I put miniroot.fs , netbsd.gz , and hpcboot.exe on the card and launched 
hpcboot.
However, I do not have a serial cable for my jornada. I continued anyway 
and hit boot.
the system seems to be starting, then stops at the line:

/etc/rc.conf is not configured. multiuser boot aborted.
Enter pathname of shell or RETURN for sh:

I pressed the enter key and "hpckbd: unknown scan code 0x51 (10, 1)
then i realized no matter what key I hit i get that same error wiht 
different values at the end.

Did I do something wrong?

--Devin

Re: Looking for help getting netbsd running on Jornada 690

John Klos — 2012-01-09T19:08:12

Hi,


http://www.netbsd.org/ports/hpcsh/howto-use.html

In a nutshell, make a small partition on a CF card which has hpcboot.exe, 
a NetBSD install kernel, and a miniroot.fs. Launch hpcboot.exe, point it 
to the netbsd kernel and miniroot.fs, boot, and run through the NetBSD 
installer.

John

Looking for help getting netbsd running on Jornada 690

Devin D — 2012-01-09T21:59:27

I recently bought a hp Jornada 690 for around $60 shortly after learning 
I could run NetBSD on it.
I have read many old guides to get NetBSD running on this device, But I 
keep getting confused and getting nowhere.
I have a cf reader and another computer running Ubuntu that I have been 
using to get files onto the Jornada.

Can someone tell me how to get NetBSD running on this Jornada or link me 
to a guide on the topic?

Thanks
--Devin

Re: Looking for help getting netbsd running on Jornada 690

Michael — 2012-01-09T21:19:30

I recall I had some trouble initially that was resolved by getting an 
updated hpcboot from someone off the list.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2012, Valeriy E. Ushakov wrote:

Re: Looking for help getting netbsd running on Jornada 690

Valeriy E. Ushakov — 2012-01-09T21:06:32


Which "platform" (model) do you select in hpcboot menu?
E.g. "Jornada 690 (US/UK)" &c.

-uwe

Re: Looking for help getting netbsd running on Jornada 690

Devin D — 2012-01-09T22:37:09

I did everything stated on the page 
http://www.netbsd.org/ports/hpcsh/howto-use.html
I put miniroot.fs , netbsd.gz , and hpcboot.exe on the card and launched 
hpcboot.
However, I do not have a serial cable for my jornada. I continued anyway 
and hit boot.
the system seems to be starting, then stops at the line:

/etc/rc.conf is not configured. multiuser boot aborted.
Enter pathname of shell or RETURN for sh:

I pressed the enter key and "hpckbd: unknown scan code 0x51 (10, 1)
then i realized no matter what key I hit i get that same error wiht 
different values at the end.

Did I do something wrong?

--Devin

Re: Looking for help getting netbsd running on Jornada 690

John Klos — 2012-01-09T19:08:12

Hi,


http://www.netbsd.org/ports/hpcsh/howto-use.html

In a nutshell, make a small partition on a CF card which has hpcboot.exe, 
a NetBSD install kernel, and a miniroot.fs. Launch hpcboot.exe, point it 
to the netbsd kernel and miniroot.fs, boot, and run through the NetBSD 
installer.

John

Looking for help getting netbsd running on Jornada 690

Devin D — 2012-01-09T21:59:27

I recently bought a hp Jornada 690 for around $60 shortly after learning 
I could run NetBSD on it.
I have read many old guides to get NetBSD running on this device, But I 
keep getting confused and getting nowhere.
I have a cf reader and another computer running Ubuntu that I have been 
using to get files onto the Jornada.

Can someone tell me how to get NetBSD running on this Jornada or link me 
to a guide on the topic?

Thanks
--Devin

Re: HD6446x driver

Valeriy E. Ushakov — 2010-05-11T12:16:18


Jornada 680 (at least) doesn't use HD64461 UART at all.  Its serial
and IrDA are on-chip SCIF.

SY, Uwe

Re: HD6446x driver

KIYOHARA Takashi — 2010-05-11T05:18:19

Hi! Valeriy,

From: "Valeriy E. Ushakov" <uwe< at >stderr.spb.ru>
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 21:10:32 +0400

Yes, we need.
The important one was a clock of the AFE and the argument of
intr_establish().
COM_REGMAP is a method that is smarter than hd64461uart_{read,write}_1().

It doesn't understand whether the clock of AFE is necessary for me in
all machines.  Can you use hd64461uart with JORNADA?
Also we can judge with platid.

Thanks,
--
kiyohara

Re: HD6446x driver

Valeriy E. Ushakov — 2010-05-09T17:10:32


I guess the COM_REGMAP part of the patch does that.  Do AFE clocks
need to be enabled too?



It's been quite a long time since I looked at hd6446x manuals in any
details, so I don't remember how similar they are.  If we can really
merge them, I guess that's good.  OTOH, I wonder if the return of
investment is really that promising.



Shouldn't this be in std.hpcsh instead of the specific kernel config?



May be define a macro for this, like COM_INIT_REGS, but for the map we
use here.  You are doing the same initialization several times in this
file.



It's better not to mix KNF changes with real changes.




This looks like the real bug (fallout from splitting softc) you are
fixing.  In that case it's better to make it a separate commit.


Thanks.

SY, Uwe