gmane.os.cygwin.talk

Re: Username and Computer Name

Christopher Faylor — 2012-05-16T02:04:38

Oh yeah?!?  Oh yeah?!?  Well, ...  *yawn*

Sorry.  I got nothin'.

cgf

RE: Username and Computer Name

Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] — 2012-05-15T22:02:22

Earnie Boyd sent the following at Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:12 AM

WJM <http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#WJM>

Come on, Ernie.  You've been around long enough to know that!

(Anyway, I think that cgf has mellowed over the years so now others
must take up the slack.)

- Barry
  Disclaimer: Statements made herein are not made on behalf of NIAID.

Re: Cygwin | Cygwin Compatibility Issue report ID 386608.

Danilo Turina — 2012-05-07T10:48:54

You will be assimilated, resistance is futile...

Re: Michael Bay's next movie

Warren Young — 2012-04-27T13:53:30

One tries one's best. :)

Re: Cygwin | Cygwin Compatibility Issue report ID 386608.

Linda Walsh — 2012-04-27T09:08:35


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Now that MS is dropping their posix-compat software and pointing people at 
cygwin, seems like they are more interested in having it work... imagine that...

Re: Michael Bay's next movie

Corinna Vinschen — 2012-04-27T08:17:02

LOL.  You like it when people spill their morning coffee, don't you?


Corinna

Re: Updated: ed-1.6-1

Warren Young — 2012-04-27T02:45:18

In a recent discussion -- http://goo.gl/SYoXB -- Walter Bright mentioned 
that he still uses a customized version of MicroEmacs.  He pointed out 
that he doesn't feel the need for Emacs Lisp and such, since he can just 
add the feature to the program and rebuild it.

That's our Walter. :)


I've got a license for TextPad, too.  I'm pretty sure it's the only 
dedicated text editor I've actually found useful enough relative to free 
alternatives like Vim to pay money for.  (Not counting editors embedded 
in IDEs and such.)  I only stopped installing it on my systems because 
of its lack of updates.  I felt the need to break my dependence on it 
before I got bit by some bit rot problem.

Michael Bay's next movie

Warren Young — 2012-04-27T02:34:52

http://i.imgur.com/dU5gS.jpg

RE: Updated: ed-1.6-1

Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] — 2012-04-26T15:55:17

Christopher Faylor wrote on April 26, 2012 10:41 AM

Let's leave Ed Hitler (1894-1900) out of this.

(See Edmund http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_family#1890s et seq.)

- Barry
  Disclaimer: Statements made herein are not made on behalf of NIAID.

Re: Updated: ed-1.6-1

Christopher Faylor — 2012-04-26T14:41:10

Ok.  Someone has to say it, I guess:

Hitler.

Re: Updated: ed-1.6-1

Lee D. Rothstein — 2012-04-26T08:38:45

Long ago (circa 1979), and far away (Ball Labs, CO), I wrote a
text retrieval system in 'ed'. Shortly thereafter, I started
using MicroEmacs.

I later replaced 'ed' in the retrieval system with  'ex' and awk. (I
always disliked 'vi' -- the visual editor-wannabe.)

Before that, circa 1975, I used a programmable forms letter
system, called 'fed' on a pre-BSD (PDP 11-45?, at NASA Ames) that
used 'ed' for a very flexible form letter system, that I used to
get my job at Bell Labs.

Now, I use TextPad. Nice, but all but dead, and only single
platform -- Windows -- and missing some key features.

BTW, 'ed' is not, by far, the worst editor that I ever used.
'edlin' was worse, by far, 'and 'Inted' on the HP 21MX, was the
very worst.

Also, 'learn', a very clever computer learning system for UNIX
(TM -- some damn bunch of ganiff lawyers ;-)) and the shell
(Bourne), by Kernighan, was based, in part, on 'ed'.

'ed' -- long may it wave[r]. ;-)

On 4/23/2012 9:33 PM, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote:

 > Christophe

Re: Updated: ed-1.6-1

Christopher Faylor — 2012-04-25T14:08:36

Because I was going through my /netrel/src directory looking for updates
and 'ed' comes after 'diffutils'.

cgf

RE: Updated: ed-1.6-1

Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] — 2012-04-25T13:40:39

Christopher Faylor sent the following at Tuesday, April 24, 2012 10:36 AM

So then the next question is why did you check for an update?  :-)
The answer may provide hints for why it is still being updated.

Perhaps the ongoing maintenance of ed and that cgf checks ed for updates
are both examples of how diligent some maintainers are.

- Barry
  Disclaimer: Statements made herein are not made on behalf of NIAID.

Re: Updated: ed-1.6-1

Christopher Faylor — 2012-04-25T03:54:57

The '?' actually rotates in three-dimensions in the GUI version.

It's quite impressive.

Re: Updated: ed-1.6-1

Warren Young — 2012-04-25T03:16:25

GUI ed...ye effin gods....

When you drag and drop a text file on it, does it open the new file, 
append to the existing file, or say '?'.

No what am I saying.  Of course it says '?'.  That's what ed does.

Re: Updated: ed-1.6-1

Christopher Faylor — 2012-04-24T15:46:36

Now that you mention it, there was a lot of commentary about transitioning
to lisp in the NEWS file.

cgf

Re: Updated: ed-1.6-1

Corinna Vinschen — 2012-04-24T15:01:35

Maybe it's just some code cleanup to convert ed into a ful-fledged
GUI editor...


Corinna

Re: Updated: ed-1.6-1

Christopher Faylor — 2012-04-24T14:35:52

I think Barry expressed my incredulity a little more clearly.

I can believe that there are old configure scripts out there still using
ed but it's hard to believe that people are still uncovering enough
problems with ed to warrant multiple new releases.

cgf

Re: Updated: ed-1.6-1

Chris Sutcliffe — 2012-04-24T10:26:00

The mksh testsuite requires ed to run successfully as well.

Chris

Re: Updated: ed-1.6-1

Christopher Faylor — 2012-04-24T01:42:44

Yes, I think we have to concede that point.

cgf

RE: Updated: ed-1.6-1

Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] — 2012-04-24T01:33:45

Christopher Faylor wrote on April 23, 2012 7:17 PM

I was thinking more along the lines of "They are still finding bugs!?!?!" and
"They are still adding features!?!?!"

Can we agree that ed is a better exemplar of software that just won't go away than B20?

- Barry
  Disclaimer:  Statements made herein are not made on behalf of NIAID.