http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wiktionary hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wiktionary/1300 <pre>Dear colleagues! I added section about using Wiktionary data in natural language processing tasks to the Wikipedia article "Wiktionary". You are welcome to extend this section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiktionary#Wiktionary_data_in_NLP Best regards, Andrew Krizhanovsky. _______________________________________________ Wiktionary-l mailing list Wiktionary-l&lt; at &gt;lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiktionary-l </pre> Andrew Krizhanovsky 2013-05-10T09:55:54 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wiktionary/1299 <pre>Apologies for cross-posting! ======================= NLP &amp; DBpedia Workshop 2013 ======================= Free, open, interoperable and multilingual NLP for DBpedia and DBpedia for NLP: http://nlp-dbpedia2013.blogs.aksw.org/ Collocated with the International Semantic Web Conference 2013 (ISWC 2013) 21-22 October 2013, in Sydney, Australia (*Submission deadline July 8th*) ********************************** Recently, the DBpedia community has experienced an immense increase in activity and we believe, that the time has come to explore the connection between DBpedia &amp; Natural Language Processing (NLP) in a yet unpreceded depth. The goal of this workshop can be summarized by this (pseudo-) formula: NLP &amp; DBpedia == DBpedia4NLP &amp;&amp; NLP4DBpedia http://db0.aksw.org/downloads/CodeCogsEqn_bold2.gif DBpedia has a long-standing tradition to provide useful data as well as a commitment to reliable Semantic Web technologies and living best practices. With the rise of WikiData, DBpedia is step-by-step relieved f</pre> Sebastian Hellmann 2013-04-30T11:45:10 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wiktionary/1298 <pre>Hello, Based on the feedback I got from the community, I have made my final proposal. Since only 3 days are left, I urge everyone to kindly reply as early as possible. My proposal can be found here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Rahul21/Gsoc Thanks in advance, Rahul _______________________________________________ Wiktionary-l mailing list Wiktionary-l&lt; at &gt;lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiktionary-l </pre> Rahul Maliakkal 2013-04-28T21:10:19 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wiktionary/1297 <pre>I have been working on a pronunciation recording extension as a part of my Summer Code Project.https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Rahul21/Gsoc Could you people take a look at the UI Mockups that i have made and give me some suggestions or feedback as to how would you want the tool to be deployed? Thanks in Advance Rahul _______________________________________________ Wiktionary-l mailing list Wiktionary-l&lt; at &gt;lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiktionary-l </pre> Rahul Maliakkal 2013-04-27T18:00:50 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wiktionary/1296 <pre>Hello, I am Rahul Maliakkal , a 3rd year Computer Science student ,i wish to apply for GSOC 2013 edition. Based on the feedback and suggestions received i have improved my proposal as i like to call it* v2.0 .* Please do have a look at it https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Rahul21/Gsoc Continue to keep the suggestions and feedback pouring in. Thanks, Rahul _______________________________________________ Wiktionary-l mailing list Wiktionary-l&lt; at &gt;lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiktionary-l </pre> Rahul Maliakkal 2013-04-13T13:25:47 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wiktionary/1295 <pre>Le 2013-04-10 19:40, Federico Leva (Nemo) a écrit : As a side work, could you spend some time on gathering information on the state of speech synthesis free sofwares ? You can check https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiktionary_future#Speech_synthesis. for a longer explanation of this topic. </pre> Mathieu Stumpf 2013-04-11T10:08:52 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wiktionary/1294 <pre>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/04/13 02:22 PM, Sebastian Hellmann wrote: ... wav, being lossless and uncompressed, is popularly used as a 'staging format' by many varieties of software. It is likely Rahul is interested in using wav because that is the raw output codec of an existing js recording library, and so the script would not need to further process the data. I believe you might guess from the wav standard being included in the wikibook on FOSS Open Standards that while the standard is maintained by Microsoft and IBM, it is not encumbered by licenses for writing tools to use it. On the other hand, Commons does not currently allow wav files. "On Wikimedia Commons, the file types we accept are: Ogg (using FLAC, Speex, Opus or Vorbis codecs), WebM (using Vorbis), or MIDI (with extension .mid)"[1] Rather than spend time petitioning commons to support wav files, I would suggest the tool be implemented with the current regime. Keeping the format-shifting a modular system may allow </pre> Amgine 2013-04-10T22:19:22 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wiktionary/1293 <pre>Well, I guess this should be researched quite well, before investing time in this feature: from http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/FOSS_Open_Standards/Comparison_of_File_Formats#WAV So who wants "wav" files actually, they are normally very large as well. The legal status is not so obvious. Maybe you even need a lawyer to judge this correctly. Again, is .wav really so popular, that it justifies the effort? All the best, Sebastian Am 10.04.2013 19:40, schrieb Federico Leva (Nemo): </pre> Sebastian Hellmann 2013-04-10T21:22:50 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wiktionary/1292 <pre>Rahul Maliakkal, 10/04/2013 19:27: Context: "Pronunciation Recording Extension" https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Rahul21/Gsoc Is the reason that the dependencies you found all require this format? Nemo _______________________________________________ Wiktionary-l mailing list Wiktionary-l&lt; at &gt;lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiktionary-l </pre> Federico Leva (Nemo 2013-04-10T17:40:30 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wiktionary/1291 <pre>[Apologies for cross-posting] Dear fellow DBpedians, I am very excited to announce that DBpedia and DBpedia Spotlight have again been been selected for the Google Summer of Code 2013!!! If you know energetic students (BSc,MSc,PhD) interested in working with DBpedia, text processing, and semantics, please encourage them to apply! More details can also be found on the blog post here: http://blog.dbpedia.org/2013/04/10/dbpediaspotlight-accepted-google-summer-of-code-2013/ On behalf of the DBpedia GSoC team, Dimitris Kontokostas </pre> Dimitris Kontokostas 2013-04-10T15:48:33 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wiktionary/1290 <pre>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 As per requests, here are some links: Bug #46610 - Pronunciation recording tool[1] A tool to record brief snippets of sound, uploading them to commons and inserting the sound file into the article. There is a draft GSOC proposal[2]. The student is seeking mentorship regarding the proposal, and is often available on IRC in #mediawiki, nick Rahul_21. Bug #36881 - Wiktionary needs usable API[3] Discussion about how best to leverage Wiktionary data via mw api or a standalone api. Probably the best suggestion is to implement at least partial DICT[4] support based on on-the-fly article parsing. Mark Hershberger wrote up a GSOC project proposal for 2013[5] Amgine [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46610 [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Rahul21/Gsoc [3] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36881 [4] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2229 [5] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#Make_Wiktionary_d</pre> Amgine 2013-04-08T16:38:49 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wiktionary/1289 <pre>Le 2013-04-05 20:48, Amgine a écrit : Oh, great! If you have some relevant links, please share them on the meta page. :) </pre> Mathieu Stumpf 2013-04-08T08:43:53 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wiktionary/1288 <pre>Le 2013-04-05 19:44, Sebastian Hellmann a écrit : I would present that in an other way which would to say that this page try to adress the problem with long term perpectives, but with real concrete goals. Sure you can't reach the one solution that will make everybody happy, but making people talk together of their specifics issues and expectations from wikitionaries is a path which I think worth to be explored. To my mind, this should help us to have a better overview of various linguistic knowledge people are expecting to find in wiktionnaries, and how to improve the transmission of this knowledge between each chapters. As it is said on the page, this is not a trivial problem, because it asks to gather a lot of linguistic expertise, as well as think about the UX we want to provide to end users and facilitate for third parties. Yes and no. Sure if you don't count with the wikisyntax, there are no specific structure imposed to wiktionnaries chapters. But in practice, you know that they did a</pre> Mathieu Stumpf 2013-04-08T08:41:03 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wiktionary/1287 <pre> An issue that is related to Wiktionary parsing is the automatic creation of Wiktionary entries by bots. I have used a bot to create inflection entries, but only for Swedish words in the English Wiktionary, and not for main entries with definitions. What attempts of that kind have been made, and what software or data structures have they used? Could that work be generalized and coordinated? </pre> Lars Aronsson 2013-04-07T11:54:00 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wiktionary/1286 <pre>Thank you for the paper. I like the overview in this paper and the clear description of Wiktionary parsing difficulties. In the beginning of the wikokit development I thought about Finite-state machine in order to extract data, but it was very complex for me, and Wiktionary data formatting are too various in kind or quality :) So, I selected usual procedural programming with short pieces of regular expressions. But you project proves that Finite-state machines could be used in non-trivial situations. Great! </pre> Andrew Krizhanovsky 2013-04-07T07:46:44 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wiktionary/1285 <pre>Hi Andrew, some statistics are in here: http://svn.aksw.org/papers/2012/JIST_Wiktionary/public.pdf I executed a SPARQL query on the store to do these statistics: http://downloads.dbpedia.org/wiktionary/stats_2013_04_06.csv We tried to honor ELE[1] for extraction, so most likely, if the the Wiktionary page deviates from ELE, then results are not so good for it. I assume you are familiar with SPARQL, because of your D2R mapping for wikokit. Here is the query: Select ?g ?p count(?p) as ?count where { Graph ?g { ?s ?p ?o } } group by ?p ?g order by desc (?g) desc(?count) It takes to long to run over http. If you are interested in more difficult statistics and calculations, I can also give you better access to our service (maybe even ssh access). All the best, Sebastian [1] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Entry_layout_explained Am 05.04.2013 18:13, schrieb Andrew Krizhanovsky: </pre> Sebastian Hellmann 2013-04-07T04:53:12 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wiktionary/1284 <pre>Hi Andrew, actually the tools to solve this problem are in place: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/house#English-abode links to a sense, the highlighting is there, also if you go to Editing Gadgets you can enable "Enable definition editing options." to add glosses. This was created by Yair_rand and it allows you to connect senses with the help of glosses such as "abode". However, this has not received any uptake by the Wiktionary community. The idea is to have something like (on http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/house#English-establishment) # {{senseid|en|establishment}}An [[establishment]], whether actual, as a pub, or virtual, as a website. Particularly restaurant, casino, or financial or trading company. ... * {{sense|establishment}} [[shop]] ... {{trans-top|an establishment}} But these do not occur frequently. For senses these seem to be available however: http://wiktionary.dbpedia.org/resource/as_soon_as_possible-English-Adverb-1en Query: http://wiktionary.dbpedia.org/sparql select * where {Graph</pre> Sebastian Hellmann 2013-04-05T13:57:56 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wiktionary/1283 <pre>Thank Sebastian, for quick reply. Can you count - how many senses and synonyms were successfully extracted from English Wiktionary and Russian Wiktionary, i.e. how many senses and synonyms are available now in DBpedia Wiktionary? It will be interesting to compare with number of senses and synonyms extracted from Wiktionaries by wikokit parser, see http://code.google.com/p/wikokit/#Statistics Best regards, Andrew. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Sebastian Hellmann &lt;hellmann&lt; at &gt;informatik.uni-leipzig.de&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ Wiktionary-l mailing list Wiktionary-l&lt; at &gt;lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiktionary-l </pre> Andrew Krizhanovsky 2013-04-05T16:13:22 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wiktionary/1282 <pre>DBpedia Wiktionary - is very interesting project! Is it possible to get list of synonyms for the first meaning of the noun "dog" now? http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dog#Synonyms Best regards, Andrew Krizhanovsky. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Dimitris Kontokostas &lt;kontokostas&lt; at &gt;informatik.uni-leipzig.de&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ Wiktionary-l mailing list Wiktionary-l&lt; at &gt;lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiktionary-l </pre> Andrew Krizhanovsky 2013-04-05T09:23:19 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wiktionary/1281 <pre>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 One is being written up by the student. The other is a project idea still looking for a student. Amgine On 05/04/13 03:25 PM, Sebastian Hellmann wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRX1gYAAoJEBGze5c9ley6ciIH/RVCBcqK4yNLZGXHMGcZQk7u Pi9Yk4+GJ6vV/ayFNZDyqqvxYyAdu9D0/CJwPIjvAWrIVG2Xj7JLWM9l1liGgjgJ r85UFHKODk3Z3O9dkcieAKQcIBDn8UJjNACvep3f2JPmlOjLJeXLtM+0Jgo6sHvX gGjHqBZx3lwnbdDFKRgO5sxCOOQPvn4vstJ5wfAVnUVpCwqP3dkhNOI+m8luNvBZ OchGrxKlNGt8JxDvwW7Z530v5/EKtyl2UUJjXuxw/BBUWu/EIv61jiloVDJMOW/R 6icCYdu84xv5t+fl2r4s/sVgP8VtfhirH+CUd+CuEkhrm3XH+PoTA03XsmgkshU= =RZBR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Wiktionary-l mailing list Wiktionary-l&lt; at &gt;lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiktionary-l </pre> Amgine 2013-04-05T23:02:48 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wiktionary/1280 <pre>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 There are several Wiktionary proposals for GSOC. I'm aware of another for pronunciation recording from wiktionary pages, and one to create a DICT-like api either as an extension to MW api or as a special page extension. Amgine On 05/04/13 10:44 AM, Sebastian Hellmann wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRXxx2AAoJEBGze5c9ley6M4QH/1PdSnexBUBj+8BWr8LMBrao WJAzSwMowGsxi+27DcC1VxqWocGgFEbiJ8OTezN47SbcDpQu1QAQOIvq/iU0fgeE zNdV8zLf2C+BH4Ods1Qm6LcPi3efWx4GHtr07BQjmUB/1iW2qZ1adyPu32C6SfTU hsmEnYxDFAXoXSnfJtTZN8SFC4licZykHzJMQke2nibexVPfbkv4s202pCU+Uey1 YyZkWYFzw8cDInODME2OgHIbzEiACq99bsrB2U+1p/aikIt1p5qsBG7k2qkuMUaA XoIF8EvjVt2dkuwTnVCeK8O1XlizgaDmx7uURZOMO7CCTGBqB845zUNowvvveCM= =okg4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Wiktionary-l mailing list Wiktionary-l&lt; at &gt;lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman</pre> Amgine 2013-04-05T18:48:22 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.org.wikimedia.wiktionary