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Re: Toolserver user phe account expired

Federico Leva (Nemo — 2012-05-21T22:23:43

Lars Aronsson, 21/05/2012 23:52:

Why can't it be moved to a MMP then?
https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/MMP

Nemo

Toolserver user phe account expired

Lars Aronsson — 2012-05-21T21:52:00

http://toolserver.org/~phe/statistics.php
now says
"403: User account expired"

This madness has to stop. Wikisource depends on this service.
I understand the German toolserver is beyond repair, but
phe's statistics scripts should be moved to proper WMF servers.

Back in April, I copied one set of phe's graphs to Commons,
where we can go for a nostalgic look at the once existing
statistics graph system that phe built, and that worked fine
until the German toolserver gang decided to ruin it,
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:ProofreadPage_Statistics

Announcement: New legal counsel

Kelly Kay — 2012-05-15T20:03:15

Kind Regards,
Kelly

Statistics fixed on all Wikisources and Wiktionaries

Federico Leva (Nemo — 2012-05-10T08:01:26

(After the new counting method, at last.)
If you see sudden variation of the statistics, this is the reason. :)

Nemo

-------- Messaggio originale --------
Oggetto: [Bug 33253] Run updateArticleCount.php on all Wikisources and 
Wiktionaries
Data: Thu, 10 May 2012 07:00:39 +0000
Mittente: bugzilla-daemon-AeOJrEpdGNeGglJvpFV4uA< at >public.gmane.org

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33253

Sam Reed (reedy) changed:

            What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
            Keywords|                            |analytics
              Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
                 URL|analytics                   |
          Resolution|                            |FIXED

--- Comment #10 from Sam Reed (reedy) 2012-05-10 09:00:39 CEST ---
Done

Wikisource on Facebook and other kinds of outreach

Lars Aronsson — 2012-03-13T09:20:24

Two weeks ago, I created a new Facebook page for Wikisource,
http://www.facebook.com/Wikisource

You can watch that page, even if you don't have an account
on Facebook.

There were already some other pages and groups, but none that
was updated or where I could post updates. The new page is
different. Whenever I recognize a Wikisourcerer among the
new fans, I make them a co-administrator of the page. The
page now has 54 fans, of which 19 are administrators. An
administrator can add new admins, post official updates in
the name of the page, i.e. Wikisource, and see statistics for
the page and its audience. This "wiki" approach to Facebook
page administration is a bit risky. Any one of the admins can
remove all the rest, hijack the page or close it down.
I'm simply assuming good faith.

Of course, not everybody uses Facebook. But then again, not
everybody uses Wikisource. This page is one channel to reach
out with information about Wikisource (or book digitization in
general) to people who use Facebook. People

Re: Wikisource presentation at Wikimania

Hélène Pedrosa-Masson — 2012-03-12T21:28:38

Le 12 mars 12 à 20:55, Andrea Zanni a écrit :

(...)

And so am I! I do hope I will go to Wikimania and that all these  
talks' proposals will take place. Aubrey, Pyb, Cristian and Amir,  
thank you for the try, anyway.

Re: Wikisource presentation at Wikimania

Andrea Zanni — 2012-03-12T20:26:19

I could do it, but just if everyone is willing to
and OK with the idea.
Maybe we have a better chance all together than alone, but, really,
I don't want to impose my view, I could actually drop my talk
and endorse yours.

Aubrey

2012/3/12 Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni< at >mail.huji.ac.il>:

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Re: Wikisource presentation at Wikimania

Amir E. Aharoni — 2012-03-12T20:18:58

2012/3/12 Andrea Zanni <zanni.andrea84< at >gmail.com>:

Just propose a panel. You can drop a line to the program team to make
sure that they understand what you want:
https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Organizing_team#Program_team

Link to the other Wikisource proposals from your own.


I will have one *slightly* technical part about WebFonts - i will
showcase how they are helping to make Wikisource a repository able of
hosting ancient (Biblical Hebrew) and very ancient (Cuneiform) texts.
I will NOT dive into scary things like HTML and JavaScript, though i
may mention words like "browser" and "dynamic loading" - but not any
more technical than that.

As for all the rest, i'll focus on Real Life.

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Re: Wikisource presentation at Wikimania

Andrea Zanni — 2012-03-12T19:55:53

Well, it seems that there's a lot going on about Wikisource :-)
I'm very happy about it.

I don't really know the procedure of selection of the talks,
but could it be possible to have/propose a "Wikisource" panel
on its own?

We would have a more technical part (Tpt and Pierre ebooks +
Cristian's wikicaptcha)
and a less technical one with me and Amir (I'm quite flexible on what
to talk about),
plus anyone who is willing to join.

Do you think it is a good idea?

Aubrey


2012/3/12 Pierre Yves Beaudouin <pierre.beaudouin-AeOJrEpdGNchT4uAktR2oQ< at >public.gmane.org>:

Re: Wikisource presentation at Wikimania

Pierre Yves Beaudouin — 2012-03-12T19:17:32

2012/3/12 Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni-MQgwKvJRKlGYZoqfULhbRA< at >public.gmane.org>:

There is also a submission from Tpt and me about ebook, microformat
and semantic.

https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Getting_ebooks_on_Wikisource_:_a_first_step_to_a_Semantic_Digital_Library_%3F

Pyb

Re: Wikisource presentation at Wikimania

Amir E. Aharoni — 2012-03-12T17:00:52

2012/3/12 Andrea Zanni <andrea.zanni< at >wikimedia.it>:

I submitted a talk about Wikisource, too:
https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/The_hundred-year_old_websites

The idea of my talk is to show how Wikisource projects are useful in
real life in surprising ways. Admittedly, some projects mentioned
there are my own pet projects. My plan was that for the Malayalam
Wikisource part i would invite a guest speaker; from what i heard
about it, this project deserves a whole talk of its own, but if no-one
else steps up, it will a part of mine.

I'm *totally* open for ideas. For example, my talk can be a part of
series of talks or of a panel. Or i could add other projects that
anybody would suggest to my talk. Or i can do a short presentation as
part of another talk, if anybody believes that this would be more
efficient.


It would definitely interest me.

It would definitely interest many more people, but you should be
careful about using too much lingo. Librarians and information
scientists will love

Wikisource presentation at Wikimania

Andrea Zanni — 2012-03-12T15:03:08

Dear Wikisourcerors,
I'm planning to go to Wikimania and submit a speech, which goes like:
*Wikisource: what we've done, what we could do better* (or "What we
got right, what we'd get better")
http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Wikisource:_what_we%27ve_done,_what_we_could_do_better

Anyway, the idea is very simple:
1. We need to talk about Wikisource at Wikimania. Period.
2. I'd like to speak about the things Wikisource is good at, and the
good framework we developed over the years (eg. the Proofread
extension)
Nonetheless, Wikisources suffers significant flaws, as a proper
metadata system (Dublin Core metadata, OAI-MPH complaint system),
which prevents us to collaborate with
other projects, as Europeana, or other digital libraries.

Now, I'm writing you to ask you if such a panel/workshop would be interesting,
and to ask you if it would be better, with your help, to create a
panel in which some of us describe the best aspects and features of
their Wikisource.

Let me know if any of you coul

Colour-coded character sets in edit box

Lars Aronsson — 2012-03-08T04:15:04

In Russian Wikisource I was looking at a book, where lists of literature
references contain a mix of Russian and German titles. This book was
OCRed for Russian, so when the print says "Barentz" in Latin letters,
the OCR text says "Вагепгг", which are Cyrillic (Russian) letters that
look similar, but actually transcribe to the nonsense "Vagepgg".

When proofreading such a text in a wiki edit box (using the ProofreadPage
extension, as Wikisource does), it would be a great help if all Cyrillic
letters (a range of Unicode characters) in the edit box could be coloured
different from the Latin ones. Is this possible to achieve with a personal
or site-wide Javascript, stylesheet or gadget?

What I would like is a gadget that allows the user to decide if Unicode
range XX to YY in the edit box should be coloured in ZZ,

Here is a diff link to the page in question,
http://ru.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%A1%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0%3AGeo_stat_rus_imp_4.djvu%2F863&diff=702229&oldid=701373

Fwd: A Digital Dawn - online today to celebrate IWD

John Vandenberg — 2012-03-07T21:03:04

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From: Donna Benjamin <donna-zaYkQS5E4Udc1SHuwSI/50B+6BGkLq7r< at >public.gmane.org>
Date: Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:01 AM
Subject: A Digital Dawn - online today to celebrate IWD
To: digitisethedawn <digitisethedawn-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org>


International Women's Day 2012

The Dawn is now available online.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/title/252

Thank you all so much for playing your part in making this happen.

--
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The campaign to digitise Louisa Lawson's Journal for Australian Women
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http://twitter.com/digitisethedawn

Blank status bars (bug 34821)

Lars Aronsson — 2012-03-05T08:22:56

Why are these four status bars blank? How can I get them back to colour?

http://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Special:IndexPages&key=Statesman

I wrote a bug report about it,
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34821

The bug report got assigned to ThomasV, but others tell me he has left the
project. So is anybody maintaining the ProofreadPage extension now?

Fwd: [Wikimediaindia-l] Sanskrit,scripts and Wikisource

John Vandenberg — 2012-03-05T05:34:04

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org>
Date: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 4:31 PM
Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Sanskrit, scripts and Wikisource
To: Wikimedia India <wikimediaindia-l-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r< at >public.gmane.org>

Hoi,
Today the Sanskrit Wikisource will get WebFonts support. The Sanskrit
Wikipedia already has it for some time and it works well for them.

What will be different is that in the Wikisource, it will be possible
to have original texts in the script as it was of at the time of first
publication. According to the English language Wikipedia article and
according to the Omniglot website Sanskrit is written in many scripts.

When you google for the Brahmi script, you will find several fonts
that are freely available. What is needed for us to use it in the
Wikimedia Foundation is that these fonts are freely licensed and, that
they pass the technical requirements of the Localisation team.
Obviously when a font is

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Gujurati Wikisource

John Vandenberg — 2012-03-03T09:26:19

Gerard and Robin,

It is great to see that the Proofread Page namespaces are going to
recorded & created at the beginning.  Thank you for your efforts.

The Page and Index namespaces must match the names in the Proofread
Page messages, otherwise we end up with a mess.

Gerard, would it be appropriate for the Proofread Page extension to
also define messages for the Page_talk and Index_talk namespaces , so
that they are all translated on translatewiki.net?

On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Gerard Meijssen
<gerard.meijssen-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Transclusion statistics

Andrea Zanni — 2012-02-20T08:41:29

Hi all,
is there a problem with the transclusion statistics script?
It froze 2 days ago.
http://toolserver.org/~phe/statistics.php?diff=1

Regards

Aubrey

Add the 'Book' feature to Wikisource

Aashish Mittal — 2012-02-14T11:35:00

Hello devs,

I am Aashish Mittal and am currently working on a project for creating an
'Book' extension for Wikisource/WikiBooks. There is a bug filed for this
feature (check bug 15071<https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15071>)
by the wikimedia community developers.

This extension would enable the users to group selected pages into logical
'books' and use these books as per their needs. We are currently working on
defining the scope of this project, but an initial thought to this project
defines the following deliverables for this extension:


   1. Create a book
   2. Page addition wizard (also containing search filters for finding
   particular pages)
   3. Import book metadata (where user can directly add set of pages from
   his export list)
   4. Export book metadata (export the book details containing all page
   links to a file which can be saved by user, similar to MetaBooks)
   5. Add to a book option for every page
   6. Table of contents for a book
   7. Read a book (navigate through

Fwd: [Gendergap] Statistics about gender gap

John Vandenberg — 2012-02-04T00:08:51

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From: emijrp <emijrp-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org>
Date: Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Statistics about gender gap
To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects
<gendergap-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r< at >public.gmane.org>


Here is the accumulate by project family
http://toolserver.org/~emijrp/wmcharts/wmchart0013.html Wikiquote,
Wikisource and Wikiversity are the winners.

2012/2/2 John Vandenberg <jayvdb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org>

Re: Fwd: [Foundation-l] ACTA analysis?

Klaus Graf — 2012-01-25T13:24:17

Let me be clear:

(i) It's NOT a DECISION, it was an opinion piece by Mike Godwin ("I
would recommend") and it wasn't communicated in a formal way (mailing
list, meta, etc.)

(ii) At least WS de and WP de have never accepted this opinion. There
are ten thousands - or more - of media on WMF servers not PD in the US
(not only URAA-, but also FOP- or PD-Ineligible-related).

Klaus Graf



2012/1/25 Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org>: