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Re: Lum Hats in Paradise

2012-05-23T12:59:56

I'll have to reserch Hansard for that one...

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Re: A V Denham

Roger Bamkin — 2012-05-23T10:07:44

Its the community's job to improve the wiki projects. WMUK didn't put a pin
in the map to chose Monmouth. The board backed "a man with a plan". It does
this frequently and I believe the offer is open to ladies too.

A person, a university, a club or a business can suggest that the board
fund work in line with our mission. There are a large number of cities that
could do with more attention. We now have a model of what a town might look
like when its (kind of) "finished" And we know that we can do the mission
one town at a time.

Roger

On 22 May 2012 22:35, Gordon Joly <gordon.joly< at >pobox.com> wrote:

Call for contributions to a open knowledgemanifesto for Wales

Fae — 2012-05-23T09:29:06

I have started <http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Open_Knowledge_manifesto_for_Wales>
and would appreciate some thought and expansion. With our current
contacts in Wales, we are in a position to lobby the Welsh Assembly
Government to adopt firm open knowledge policies for future heritage
funding criteria. Having a Wales-specific document in our back pocket
supported by our community would be incredibly helpful and may avoid
future Welsh heritage projects being unnecessarily locked down with
license restrictions.

* Blog post about Monmouthpedia day -
http://faenwp.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/monmouthpedia-case-study-of-open.html
* Interview on BBC World Update on iPlayer at
<http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/p00rzzmw> < at >8'40'' (for the next
7 days)

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Re: A V Denham

Gordon Joly — 2012-05-22T21:35:56

No. Just good PR?

Gordo


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Re: Lum Hats in Paradise

HJ Mitchell — 2012-05-22T13:53:48

Brian, that's is fantastic.

Obviously, I would hope a group of librarians might be able to recognise inline citations, but that they're so keen (and don't see Wikipedia as the root of all evil)  is brilliant.

If you need a seasoned Wikipedian to lead a training session up there (for librarians or the general public or both), I'd be happy to make the journey.


Harry


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Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Lum Hats in Paradise
 

I remember Tam Dayell (I think it was him) had a little comic speech during the Thatcher years asking people to imagine Libraries had not been invented. 

He then pretended he was pitching to the Minister for culture.

It went:
" I want to build some big new buildings
Really?
Yes , and allow anyone to visit them.
Really? What sort of people?
Everyone. 
Why?
Well, I am going to fill them with

Re: Lum Hats in Paradise

Jon Davies — 2012-05-22T13:25:58

I remember Tam Dayell (I think it was him) had a little comic speech during
the Thatcher years asking people to imagine Libraries had not been
invented.

He then pretended he was pitching to the Minister for culture.

It went:
" I want to build some big new buildings
Really?
Yes , and allow anyone to visit them.
Really? What sort of people?
Everyone.
Why?
Well, I am going to fill them with books.
Ah - a sort of bookshop!
No - we will let people take the books without paying for them..."

It went on and on but you get the idea.

Well done the people of Edinburgh and I will cc this to Fae in case he has
not seen this string as he is so keen to get work in Scotland going.

Jon

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:38 PM, <brian.mcneil< at >wikinewsie.org> wrote:

Re: Lum Hats in Paradise

2012-05-22T13:25:04

David,

I can't get on a bus without hearing Polish, Czech, Arabic, and many
more well-known European languages. These people are also 'hardened
regulars' in terms of turning up in local libraries.

The one I count as 'most awesome' is that the library staff, with zero
input from Wikimedians, have figured out the more little [1][2][3] etc,
the more reliable and article is, and those are links to sources that
should be used as references.

I intend to be _particularly_ bold if I properly get some of the
council/library staff onside and ask them to push for all publications
to be put out under CC-BY. I suspect I can do a 'Jedi Mind Trick' on our
couple of Green councillors and get them to agree to such. At-issue is
persuading a few more that using such could cut costs (suckers like me
will take loads of photos for free) and the open-access of the documents
will see the message more widely spread.



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Re: Lum Hats in Paradise

David Gerard — 2012-05-22T13:12:15



I think you've just become the local office ;-p





That is *absolutely brilliant*. Newbies creating Wikipedia articles
with lots of book references? It's hard to get better than that!


- d.

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Re: Lum Hats in Paradise

2012-05-22T12:38:18

Jon,

The point is be nice, and respectful, to the library staff. I was having
to stop laughing when Fiona was telling me that "they know a good
Wikipedia article by the number of cited references". Without any input
from us they've figured out how to judge article quality - they are
people we want to recruit.

I've done 'stubs' on Leith Library[1], Stockbridge Library[2], and
McDonald Road Library[3]. 

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leith_Library
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockbridge_library
[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald_Road_Library

The 7th of July is the 125th anniversary of Andrew Carnegie laying the
foundation stone for Edinburgh's Central Library. If there's anything we
can do to get them main page mentions (DYK?) then we'll have an entire
city's ibrary staff onside.

Unlike most of the UK, Edinburgh City Council left libraries in the
hands of the public. The response to surveys was that £300,000 was put
_back_ into the library budget. I think the city deserves recognised for
th

Re: Lum Hats in Paradise

Jon Davies — 2012-05-22T12:15:59

I hope we will be jumping at your offer! Brilliant work,

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:03 PM, <brian.mcneil< at >wikinewsie.org> wrote:

Lum Hats in Paradise

2012-05-22T12:03:05

Hola! From a non-Wikipedian Wikimedian - in Edinburgh - who is delighted
with the response from some tentative outreach work.

I spend around an hour this morning touring Edingburgh's Central Library
with Fiona Myles, took around 150 photos of the interior of the
building, and _hope_ I've laid the groundwork for us to work far more
closely in future.

I have, dependent on copyright, a verbal agreement to get high-res scans
of the plans of the building (A Carnegie Library), a keen interest to
have librarians briefed on Wikipedia - if not outright encouraged to
contribute, and the possibility of running recruitment/induction
sessions in Edinburgh. Which, for the unwashed masses, is a UNESCO City
of Literature.

Given the piss-poor representation up here in Scotland, I think that's a
major win. My next job, as interim 'cowboy liasion' between Wikimedia UK
and Museums Galleries Scotland is to get a few councillors calling for
all publicly funded publications to be under a CC-BY license.

Any, and all, encouragem

Re: A V Denham

Charles Matthews — 2012-05-22T11:20:16

<snip>

I can't speak for that. Clearly many UK Wikimedians do, but the
chapter is not directly concerned with content (as such).

Edward, you linked to your wiki at http://www.logicmuseum.com/, and I
wish you well with this project. As I understand it from
http://www.logicmuseum.com/wiki/The_Logic_Museum:Copyrights, the
content there is copyleft, but not released under Creative Commons?

Charles

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Re: A V Denham

Thomas Dalton — 2012-05-22T11:15:44

News Flash: Wikipedia isn't finished yet! Film at 11!

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A V Denham

Edward at Logic Museum — 2012-05-22T09:30:47

Gordon writes Time to return another "town"..... how about this quaint 
little hamlet (started as WikiProject in 2002)?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_London

How ironic.  I had several London articles deleted or cut short as a result 
of the absurd 'community ban' that is still in force.  One article, about an
important London landmark and institution, is still deleted, and I am still 
waiting for someone to spot the fact and act - that was two years ago.  The
article about the London Greyfriars 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greyfriars,_London was restored after deletion 
by Sandstein, but was only half completed.  You can see roughly what the 
completed version would be like here 
http://www.logicmuseum.com/wiki/Greyfriars,_London (although the section on 
the library would not be appropriate for Wikipedia).

Wikipedia has no article on the Carmelite friary in London
http://www.logicmuseum.com/wiki/Carmelite_friary,_London, and the list of 
Franciscan friaries in England 
http://en.wiki

Re: Toolserver questions

Tom Morris — 2012-05-21T19:23:54


Well, I'm also http://toolserver.org/~tom/ ;-)

And I'm in London tomorrow and Wednesday, and for the next few Wednesdays.

Re: Toolserver questions

Richard Symonds — 2012-05-21T16:43:43

No - not quite that technical! Also still very much at a preliminary stage,
so if we need German support we'll skype them in or the like - I can't
really justify travel expenses from Germany for such a short meeting.

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Re: Toolserver questions

geni — 2012-05-21T16:30:16

Depending on how technical it is you may be better off paying to bring
someone in from germany.

Toolserver questions

Richard Symonds — 2012-05-21T16:28:37

Is there anyone in the London area who is particularly au fait with
Toolserver who would be available for a meeting around late may/early June?
We can pay reasonable travel expenses. We're got an organisation interested
in getting involved in a partnership of sorts, but we need to work out if
it's technically feasible - and for that I need someone who uses toolserver
often, and understand the community there well.

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WMUK Board Report

Richard Symonds — 2012-05-21T15:59:25

The 2011 Board Report (as seen at the 2012 AGM) is now online at
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_UK_2011_Board_Report.ogv,
for those of you who haven't seen it.

All the best,

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Re: A V Denham

Roger Bamkin — 2012-05-21T13:33:54

The Mayor's Office have shown a tinge of interest in the past. Its the
stuff below they had difficulty with ...

However in general public bodies do not measure up to what Monmouth have
done. Monmouth have not linked QR codes to their own web site. They have
not tried to justify their last bit of IT investment (e.g. someones idea
for a 40,000 pound app that has only had 7 people use it <--- Thats my
fiction, but Ive seen similar elsewhere - you know who you are!).

Those who accessed the 100K Monmouthpedia free wifi would see no sign on,
no advertising, no landing page, no email address farming, and there is no
charge - probably forever...

You get an email from this council - it has a wikipedia link. You go to
their main office - it has a wikipedia link. Go to their museum .... you
can have a copy of any one of 10,000 images (its a very small museum)

I think I could get a plaque on Buck House..... but this is only a bit
about QRpedia and plaques. Getting people to put plaques up is cool, but we
should ask

Re: A V Denham

Richard Symonds — 2012-05-21T13:25:36

The trick is to do it like the chap who did Toynbee Tiles [1] did. That way
no-one notices until months later.

[1]  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toynbee_tiles
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