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Re: Announcing 2 New Community Fellows

Siko Bouterse — 2012-05-23T20:00:50

Hi Richard and all,
I checked into the liability and benefits questions with our HR department
and WMF's Chief of Finance and Administration, and here is some more info
from them:

Individuals who have been awarded Fellowships from the Wikimedia Foundation
are covered by the insurance of the Wikimedia Foundation for work done as
part of their Fellowship agreement.

If they are in the United States, through third party service, the
Wikimedia Foundation is able to provide health insurance. If they reside
outside the United States, then the Wikimedia Foundation provides a
financial supplement to enable the Fellowship recipients to cover their own
health insurance.

If a Fellowship recipient is traveling on behalf of the Wikimedia
Foundation, outside of their home country, then they are provided with
travel accident insurance by the Wikimedia Foundation.

Hope this helps!  If you're looking for more specifics on WMF's HR
practices, I might suggest we take the conversation off-list and can try to
put you in touch

Wikipedia Academy, Berlin: Programme and Registration

Nicole Ebber — 2012-05-23T16:30:45

(Appologies for cross posting)

From 29 June until 1 July 2012 the Wikipedia Academy (#wpac2012) [1]
will take place in Berlin, under the theme “Research and Free
Knowledge”. For the first time, Wikimedia Deutschland organises this
conference in cooperation with Freie Universität Berlin [2] and the
Humboldt Institute for Internet and Society [3]. This year, we lay the
focus on research on, with and within Wikipedia and invite researchers
who scientifically deal with Free Knowledge and its implications for
research and society to participate in the conference.
The Wikipedia Academy is aimed to address an international audience.
The conference language is English.

On Friday and Saturday the conference will be set at Freie Universität
Berlin, School of Business & Economics, Garystrasse 21. The event
venue for Sunday will be announced soon.

== Registration ==
For participation you have to register for a participant pass in
advance. The online registration
(http://wikipedia-academy.de/2012/wiki/Registrati

Re: Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

Cristian Consonni — 2012-05-23T10:17:46

2012/5/21 David Gerard <dgerard-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org>:

Two gemstones, thanks for poiting those out.

Cristian

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Re: Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

geni — 2012-05-23T07:55:08

Why? Thats not going to help people who want to see game of thrones
without an HBO subscription or want to see avengers without paying.
Telling people they are legitimately grab early friends episodes isn't
going to stop them acquiring copies of the big bang theory.

Re: Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

geni — 2012-05-23T07:52:11

Most of the world was on life+50 or greater before the latest round of
US copyright extensions and before 1989 the US didn't really engage
with international copyright very much.

Of the various common copyright terms Life+70 tends to have more to do
with Germany and the EU than anything else. Life+50 tends to be due to
a mix of laws acquired from various empires (the most useful map when
dealing with copyright is often
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:European_Empires.svg) or the bern
convention. The US might try and get countries to enforce their laws
but the actual terms are more likely to be colonial relics (although
why north korea's copyright law looks so German will remain a mystery)

Re: Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

David Gerard — 2012-05-23T07:46:38



Well, actually it was for the benefit of printers. As is reflected in
copyright today, which is for the benefit of publishers.




I think this is a straw man rendering of the position, but I do think
that forcibly tearing down the whole edifice would be a vast
improvement in the world.




That's why a term that doesn't blatantly take the piss might have a
chance, yes. 14 years may be all they end up getting.


- d.

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Re: Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

Keegan Peterzell — 2012-05-23T07:40:59

I think the larger point is that regard for copyright coming to a death
knell by the internet, and the care from Nobody is how people make money
based on this concept.  Should musicians less rely on publishing rights and
yield them to CC and publish them on Wikisource, and rely on touring and
willing-to-pay agreements with commercial use?  That's just an example, we
have the recent issue of bringing United States tax-payer funded research
being released under strict commercial licensing in order to make money for
publishers and not the researchers or the source of the funds.  It's about
letting go of the old source of economics for publishers and embracing a
new model.

Re: Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

George Herbert — 2012-05-23T07:33:02

Why?

The whole idea of copyright - as the US started seeing it, in our
constitution and thence onwards, is properly rewarding creative people
for their efforts.  Free content and culture and information -
Wikipedia included - is great.  I don't see any need to forcibly tear
down the whole edifice of commercial paid arts in the process.

In particular, the public has no problem with individual musicians and
writers being rewarded for their efforts.  Trying to overcome that
would mean making enemies out of most of the populace on this when we
don't have to.

The authors I've talked to about this see books turned into films in
the 8-10-15-20 year timeframes and want at least that much, and also
notice that the Tolkein estate are making out like bandits from the
recent trilogy, which was far longer downstream.


Nobody's made a big public case for any shorter term.

That's a mistake.  The whole CC and free content movement needs to
step up.  We need Cory and other luminaries advocating for a sane
term, and 14

Re: Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

Keegan Peterzell — 2012-05-23T07:29:41

Non-sarcastic reply, it's not about the US or harmony.  It's about
understanding, and the expectations of understanding international
copyright law through the web is a high specialized skill not even really
developed.  We have regular copyright complaints to Wikimedia sites from
people that lack a general understanding of the national and international
copyright rights. Often times these are questions that no lawyer I know can
genuinely answer, because there isn't one for their particular country.  We
just have to wing it and explain what we know.

Re: Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

Keegan Peterzell — 2012-05-23T07:24:52


Doesn't matter the nation, David.  Nobody cares[1].

1. < http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Nobody_cares >

Re: Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

David Gerard — 2012-05-23T07:21:39




That is, of course, not the case: the US raises the term then works
very hard to get its copyright laws "harmonised" internationally. So
that is actually the reason.


- d.

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Re: Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

geni — 2012-05-23T07:16:45

However for most of the world their copyright terms are as they are
for other reasons.

But this is all irrelevant. The title of this thread is pretty much
correct. People don't care about copyright. The idea that this is due
to the length is pretty laughable when you look at what copyrights
they are most likely to break.

Re: Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

John Vandenberg — 2012-05-23T00:37:49

People dont care about Sonny Bono, so it wont get any prominence.
Most people dont care about copyright.  Most people do have kids and
do know who Mickey Mouse is.  Tar Mickey Mouse with the actions of his
protectors and the world will listen.

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Amory Meltzer <amorymeltzer-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Fwd: [Internal-l] CSBS 2012 - Results

phoebe ayers — 2012-05-22T16:47:24

Forwarding to Wikimedia-l

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Date: Sun, May 20, 2012 at 11:45 AM
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To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed
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Hi all,

I would also like to note that WMF's Board of Trustees has voted to
approve the nominations of Alice and Patricio to the WMF BoT
(effective the Wikimania Board meeting).  The Board looks forward to
welcoming Alice and Patricio and expresses deep gratitude for the
diligent work of Arne and Phoebe.

Thanks,
Matt

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Re: Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

Amory Meltzer — 2012-05-22T15:46:49

Less Mickey Mouse, more Sonny Bono.  Beloved cartoon characters from
everyone's childhood are harder to campaign against than one of Cher's
ex-husbands.

~A


On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:31 PM, John Vandenberg <jayvdb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

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Re: Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

John Vandenberg — 2012-05-22T06:31:49

I agree.  What problems does Wikipedia face?  Some of the Wikipedia,
and other projects, allow non-free media where they are necessary to
support the goals of the project.  Some projects don't allow non-free
media, but most of our mission can be adequately achieved with plain
text, and should be obtained in pure text in order to meet the needs
of people with vision impairments that mean they can't see images.

A limit on copyright increases our pool of resources at some point in
the future (5 years, 14 years, etc) as no government will attempt to
push existing works into the public domain by having a retroactive new
copyright duration.

My bet is that our firm commitment to CC-BY-SA will mean that the
copyright landscape will be quite different in 14 years.

If we want to have an extra impact, I think we should campaign to
redefine January 1 as (Anti-)Mickey Mouse Day, and promote it as the
day that Mickey Mouse Act / Disney has prevented the commons from
being enriched.  We could list all of the works whic

Re: Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

Mike Dupont — 2012-05-22T04:46:43

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Kirill Lokshin
<kirill.lokshin-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

very good point, basically the bsd.
but look people, are you saying that wikipedia editors should limit
its own copyright to 14 years? how would that work practically?

Would it be possible to add clauses like that to to license? would
that be incompatible with cc-by-sa?

[Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 8,Issue 21 -- 21 May 2012

Wikipedia Signpost — 2012-05-22T02:01:52

From the editor: New editor-in-chief
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-05-21/From_the_editor

News and notes: Two new Wikimedia fellows to boost strategies for tackling major issues
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-05-21/News_and_notes

WikiProject report: Trouble in a Galaxy Far, Far Away....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-05-21/WikiProject_report

Featured content: Lemurbaby moves it with Madagascar: Featured content for the week
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-05-21/Featured_content

Arbitration report: No open arbitration cases pending
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-05-21/Arbitration_report

Technology report: On the indestructibility of Wikimedia content
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-05-21/Technology_report


Single page view
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signpost/Single

PDF version
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik

Re: Office hours about the new mobile site and other mobile work at the WMF

Steven Walling — 2012-05-22T01:10:38


Excuse me, Friday is not the 23rd. It's the 25th!

Office hours about the new mobile site and othermobile work at the WMF

Steven Walling — 2012-05-22T01:08:40

Hi everyone,

This Friday the Wikimedia Foundation's mobile team will be hosting an IRC
office hours to talk about the new version of the Wikipedia mobile site,
along with other upcoming updates to the way readers and contributors
experience the projects on mobile devices.

This is the first office hours with Phil Chang, the product manager for
mobile, since the Foundation has worked to release new versions of the
mobile site, iPhone app, and the Android app. If you're interested in those
projects and future work on mobile contributions, I highly encourage
attending. :)

We'll be in #wikimedia-office from 18:00-19:00 UTC, Friday the 23rd. As
usual, docs are on Meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours

Re: Study: Nobody cares about your copyright

Johan Jönsson — 2012-05-21T23:48:46

2012/5/22 Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi-hi6Y0CQ0nG0< at >public.gmane.org>:


Yes. Very much so.

//Johan Jönsson
--
http://johanjonsson.net/wikipedia

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