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    <title>Re: Server Price Inquiry</title>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Thanks in part to Linux, and the FOSS community in general, there are a lot of Internet-based services you now get for free: email, apps, storage space, compute resources, etc.  But not everything is free.  If you are a freelance/independent consultant, you can still charge time-and-material for services you render.  How much you charge is totally up to you.


--- mike t.


On May 22, 2012 3:54 PM, "Froilan Romualdo" &amp;lt;froilanr&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gmail.com&amp;gt; wrote:

Dati nag-charge kami ng P15,000.00 sa mail server setup. Sa isang hotel. 
doing installations to the following PC type servers.
then; 
or as per call?
don't have any idea and I want to be fair to my clients.
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Google apps for email
On May 22, 2012 3:54 PM, "Froilan Romualdo" &amp;lt;froilanr-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org&amp;gt; wrote:

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    <dc:creator>Mark Anthony Delfin</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-22T10:09:55</dc:date>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Dati nag-charge kami ng P15,000.00 sa mail server setup. Sa isang hotel.

Ngayon wala na ba talagang service charge?



On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Michael Tinsay &amp;lt;tinsami1-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org&amp;gt; wrote:




&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Froilan Romualdo</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-22T05:54:11</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Another virus in Android</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.philippine/33648</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
is it js? java? is it a stack overflow? heap overflow? format string bug? rop?

only the malware writers know...

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Rogelio Serrano</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-06T05:35:56</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Another virus in Android</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.philippine/33647</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Thanks fooler. Infection still requires user confirmation. This is still
alarming given the large number of not so tech/security savy users who
clicks w/o reading.

ciao!
---

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On May 5, 2012 11:49 AM, "fooler mail" &amp;lt;fooler.mail-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org&amp;gt; wrote:

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    <dc:creator>Anuerin Diaz</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-06T02:56:08</dc:date>
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    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.philippine/33646</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
The article is either deliberately muddy, or the writer is slightly
misinformed; probably both.

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Zak Elep</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-05T06:47:46</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Another virus in Android</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.philippine/33645</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;here is how it works...

http://blog.mylookout.com/blog/2012/05/02/security-alert-hacked-websites-serve-suspicious-android-apps-noncompatible/

fooler.

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Anuerin Diaz &amp;lt;ramfree17-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org&amp;gt; wrote:
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    <dc:creator>fooler mail</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-05T03:49:27</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Gov't to set up 'private cloud' of servers to host e-mail, ICT services | Inquirer Technology</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.philippine/33644</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;another project going to wasting our money.

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:35 AM, GMAIL &amp;lt;johnalvin.galt-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org&amp;gt; wrote:

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    <dc:creator>Ari Ben</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-04T23:12:58</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Another virus in Android</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.philippine/33643</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Thanks for the info.  The article is a bit thin on information. Aside from
saying it can infect via the browser there is not much to be gained. Does
the Trojan affect all browsers or only the default?  Does it affect all
versions or only specific ones?

Google search,  here we come.  :)

ciao!
---

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On May 4, 2012 7:00 AM, "fooler mail" &amp;lt;fooler.mail-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org&amp;gt; wrote:

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    <dc:creator>Anuerin Diaz</dc:creator>
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    <title>Another virus in Android</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.philippine/33642</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;FYI

http://www.mobiledia.com/news/141837.html

fooler.
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    <dc:date>2012-05-03T22:59:59</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Gov’t to set up ‘private cloud’ of servers to host e-mail, ICT services | Inquirer Technology</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.philippine/33641</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hello John,

It is not clear in the article weather it will be delivered as IaaS,
PaaS or Saas. Can anyone shed light on this? Other comments in this
thread are pointing to SaaS but it's not indicated in the article.
Upon reading "setting up it's own cloud", I assumed it's IaaS, the
same services offered by AWS.

John

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:15 AM, John Osena &amp;lt;johnosena-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org&amp;gt; wrote:
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    <title>Re:  Gov’t to set up ‘private cloud’ of servers to host e-mail, ICT services | Inquirer Technology</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.philippine/33640</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hello PLUG,
 
I am in favor of having emails hosted and servers located in the Philippines for soveriegn reasons - especially for our government use. But I prefer our government to outsource this function to a local IT company who are more technically capable of running cloud infrastructure. Our government will save on buying hardware, licenses, salaries, connectivity and maintenance costs. More importantly, the private sector would be able to profit and provide local employment.
 
Disclosure: My company provide email hosting and virtual server hosting to government offices already on a non-cloud infrastructure. Our servers are located in Vitro Data Center and IPVG.
 
Cheers!
John


________________________________
From: Dan Sweeney &amp;lt;dsweeney-CdjcK7sRb8tWk0Htik3J/w&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org&amp;gt;
To: Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical Discussion List &amp;lt;plug-cunTk1MwBs9kibMonLAN/Q&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org.org.ph&amp;gt; 
Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 8:18:53 PM
Subject: Re: [plug] Gov’t to set up ‘private cloud’ of s&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>John Osena</dc:creator>
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    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.philippine/33639</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Paolo,

They have servers here in the Philippines and in the USA.. Think they might actually add a second site here in the Philippines for redundancy.

http://www.noaccess.com/~dsweeney/Current-May-2012-backbone-s.pdf

Dan
On May 2, 2012, at 8:20 PM, Paolo Falcone wrote:


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    <dc:creator>Dan Sweeney</dc:creator>
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    <title>Re: Gov’t to set up ‘private cloud’ of servers to host e-mail, ICT services | Inquirer Technology</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.philippine/33638</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I am well aware of ArcusIT and their PisoCloud program, and that they
Windows and Linux servers and other SaaS stuff.

They, like other local hosting providers, would become relevant to
this government private "cloud" (urghh) if their servers are situated
in the country.

My point is actually more on - it won't really matter whether
proprietary or FOSS solutions are used, as strengths of each platform
can be leveraged depending on circumstances. What matters most is if
the solution can be delivered properly and promptly.

Paolo

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Dan Sweeney &amp;lt;dsweeney&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;noaccess.com&amp;gt; wrote:



&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Paolo Falcone</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-02T12:20:32</dc:date>
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    <title>Re:  Gov’t to set up ‘private cloud’ of servers to host e-mail, ICT services | Inquirer Technology</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.philippine/33637</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;if this is MS, then i wonder if "help make the delivery of services to
the public more efficient" will hold

On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 21:59 +0800, Danny Ching wrote:

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Ben Adrian Sarmiento</dc:creator>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hey Paolo,


arcusit.ph

Linux, IBM, Microsoft etc etc..

Dan
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    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.philippine/33635</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi Rob,

arcusit.ph

nuff said.

Dan
On May 2, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Robert Locke wrote:


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    <dc:creator>Dan Sweeney</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-02T07:07:56</dc:date>
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    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.philippine/33634</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;As long as the solution is hosted on Philippine soil, it gives DOST
the leverage to wring necks when shit hits the fan. I can imagine MS
giving in to a local partner who would request to have a private
install of Office 365 on government servers in the Philippines, same
also with the other competitors in this space like Oracle, IBM, EMC
and the like.

I don't see Google establishing data centers for Philippine government
contracts just yet. Nor do I see them willing to sell Google Apps in
an appliance like the Google Search Appliance pizza box. If that
happens though... kudos to them and their tech partners. Government
contracts are lucrative.

It would've been nice if there are local providers willing to fork the
time, money, manpower and like for things like HIPAA, BS 7799/ISO
27001 using a free software stack or hybrid solutions employing FOSS
and proprietary technologies, but they should have existed years ago
and not just today. Integration and development do take time and
expertise and not just going p&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Paolo Falcone</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-02T04:53:01</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Gov't to set up 'private cloud' of servers to host e-mail, ICT services | Inquirer Technology</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.philippine/33633</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hahaha! Philipping Govt on their own cloud....must be a server farm of oven
toasters....

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[mailto:plug-bounces-cunTk1MwBs8iFSDQTTA3ONd+tgCGH7ND&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Rogelio Serrano
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:14 AM
To: Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical Discussion List
Subject: Re: [plug]Govt to set up private cloud of servers to host
e-mail, ICT services | Inquirer Technology

its microsoft. i can expect nothing else from our government...

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:02 AM, Robert Locke &amp;lt;roblocke-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org&amp;gt; wrote:
http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/01/google-wins-35-million-u-s-government-contr
act-over-microsoft/
http://technology.inquirer.net/10555/govt-to-set-up-private-cloud-of-servers
-to-host-e-mail-ict-services



&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
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    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.philippine/33632</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;its microsoft. i can expect nothing else from our government...

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:02 AM, Robert Locke &amp;lt;roblocke&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gmail.com&amp;gt; wrote:



&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
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I see your article and raise you:

http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/01/google-wins-35-million-u-s-government-contract-over-microsoft/

;-)

Rob


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