http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/45291 Ok.. here it goes again... While everyone is looking for being part of community, getting more people to actually participate, why are we struck in this archaic mode of making rules that no one except a few really cares about? I freely admit that I actually find top postings easier to read.. I know the current status first and then to find history I can scroll down as much as I want instead of scrolling every time. As admin, you are of course at liberty to make up your rules.. but can we look at those rules in an objective way and figure out if the rules actually help the community? RFC 1855 was last updated on Oct 1995, when internet was the domain of a select few... I am not saying old RFCs are invalid, but this one is. It is talking about netiquette in Victorian times. I think it is time we face the facts and decide where we should be wasting our time and energy - Getting more people to switch to Linux/FOSS and not use pirated MS software or stop people from posting to ILUGC, hoping agains Vaidhyanathan Mayilrangam Gopalan 2008-05-14T07:15:13 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/45290 Thanks. Basically, even though the students are interested, they are handicapped because of lack of basic skills required for a foss project. Some example i can quote are: * Lack of knowledge of SVN. (its one of basic operations in any FOSS project) * Lack of knowledge of IRC * Lack of knowledge of Colloboration softwares. (like wiki, Project Management etc) So, we need to build a few skilled persons in the college, if we intend to encourage students to take up projects in FOSS. Regards, Senthil _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-request-nW3y/O4m2H6nF1JIJmvOGw< at >public.gmane.org with "unsubscribe <password> <address>" in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc senthilraja P 2008-05-14T07:06:22 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/45289 In Ubuntu we have, Self Appointed Benevolent Dictator for Life ;-) -- ஆமாச்சு _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-request-nW3y/O4m2H6nF1JIJmvOGw< at >public.gmane.org with "unsubscribe <password> <address>" in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ் 2008-05-14T07:02:16 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/45288 Putting the admin of the WBUT mirror (which would be straining by now) in cc: _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-request-nW3y/O4m2H6nF1JIJmvOGw< at >public.gmane.org with "unsubscribe <password> <address>" in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 2008-05-14T06:31:48 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/45287 Since we are seeing too many "top-posting" and "not removing unwanted text" mails in the list, it is good to use the same weapon(RFC 1855 violation) to teach them... It reminds me the Tamil proverb - "To take out thorn, use thorn" -Ashok __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-request-nW3y/O4m2H6nF1JIJmvOGw< at >public.gmane.org with "unsubscribe <password> <address>" in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ashok sezhiyan 2008-05-14T06:16:03 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/45286 2008/5/13 Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon< at >thenilgiris.com>: If admins themselves need to bend the rules, then how can we expect members to follow? That does not mean I'm advocating top posting. In the same way top posting is irrittating, shouting is also irrittating. Cheers Praveen Praveen A 2008-05-14T06:13:53 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/45285 On 14-May-08, at 11:30 AM, Praveen A wrote: admins are permitted to shout - are you by any chance advocating top posting? Kenneth Gonsalves 2008-05-14T06:12:18 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/45284 2008/5/13 Bharathi Subramanian <sbharathi< at >midascomm.com>: What about shouting in the list? Is it also in the "RFC 1855"? Cheers Praveen Praveen A 2008-05-14T06:00:40 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/45283 PLEASE STOP TOP-POSTING TO THE LIST and REMOVE UNWANTED TEXT BEFORE REPLY TO THE LIST. IF YOU DON'T KNOW, "WHAT IS TOP-POSTING?" PLEASE READ THE "RFC 1855" FROM THE NET. Bharathi Subramanian 2008-05-14T05:46:43 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/45282 I would be having a copy of Fedora 9 in couple of days so if someone is in need of it, send me an email (off-list) . Cheers Balaji Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester Get Involved: http://fedoraproject.org/en/join-fedora On 5/14/08, swapan karmakar <skrhce2005-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ< at >public.gmane.org> wrote: _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-request-nW3y/O4m2H6nF1JIJmvOGw< at >public.gmane.org with "unsubscribe <password> <address>" in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc "G" 2008-05-14T05:32:21 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/45281 2008/5/13 swapan karmakar <skrhce2005< at >hotmail.com>: http://www.zyxware.com/requestcd Should have it soon. They charge 15 ruppees per cd and 25 ruppees per DVD plus shipping cost of 35. Cheers Praveen Praveen A 2008-05-14T05:28:45 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/45280 Hi the mirror list returned by http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?path=pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/i386/os/ gives ftp://mirror.wbut.ac.in/pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/i386/os as first mirror and is dead jigdo fails repeatedly... Thanks & regards Gowthaman _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-request-nW3y/O4m2H6nF1JIJmvOGw< at >public.gmane.org with "unsubscribe <password> <address>" in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc Gowthaman Basuvaraj 2008-05-14T05:23:49 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/45279 i am from andaman nicobar islands. Apart from Fedora website, where can i get Fedora 9..? Will it be available along with magazines like Digit/Linuxforyou/PCquest..? A Contributor For; LinuxForYou Magazine, & www.redhatmagazine.com. 03192236349/09933224464 _________________________________________________________________ Watch hottest Bollywood videos, clips, movie tailors, star interviews, songs and more on MSN videos. http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-in_______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-request-nW3y/O4m2H6nF1JIJmvOGw< at >public.gmane.org with "unsubscribe <password> <address>" in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc swapan karmakar 2008-05-14T05:15:27 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/45278 One Day One GNU/Linux Command ============================= sort - Sort lines of text files Summary : Sort the file contents based on options given to it. By default the output is showed in the console. Examples : $ sort -- Take the input from stdin, sort and output in stdout. $ sort myfile -o myoutput -- Sort the myfile content and store in "myoutput" $ sort -b myfile -- Ignore the leading blanks and sort. $ sort -br myfile -- Same as above but in reverse order $ sort -c myfile -- Only Check whether myfile is already sorted $ sort -f myfile -- Ignore the case and sort (a == A) $ sort -u myfile -- Sort and output only unique lines $ sort -t : -k 2,2n -k 5.3,5.4 myfile -- Sort numerically on the 2nd field and resolve ties by sorting alphabetically on the 3rd and 4th characters of field 5. Use `:' as the field delimiter Read : man sort HTH :) Bharathi Subramanian 2008-05-14T05:07:09 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/45277 On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:08 AM, Girish Venkatachalam <girishvenkatachalam-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote: Not really. In addition to BIOS data, the the kernel IDE drivers do their own hardware detection/probing. Try disabling your secondary HDD and CDROM drives in BIOS. The kernel will still detect and use these devices as usual. - Raja _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-request-nW3y/O4m2H6nF1JIJmvOGw< at >public.gmane.org with "unsubscribe <password> <address>" in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc Raja Subramanian 2008-05-14T04:05:26 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/45276 please ban this guy On 14-May-08, at 2:11 AM, Sriram Viswanathan wrote: Kenneth Gonsalves 2008-05-14T04:05:37 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/45275 வணக்கம் இளவேனிற் காலத்தின் இரண்டாவது இதழை உங்கள் முன் படைப்பதில் பெருமகிழ்ச்சி அடைகின்றோம். புத்தாண்டில் இம்முயற்சியை துவங்கிய எங்கரங்களுக்கு வலு ஊட்டும் விதமாக அமைந்த வாசகர்களின் கருத்துக்களுடன் இம்மாத இதழ் துவங்குகிறது. யுனிகோடில் கோட்டை விட்டவற்றையும் ஆக வேண்டியதற்கான தமது பரிந்துரைகளையும் நயம்பட நமக்கு, தமக்கே உரிய தனித்தன்மையுடன் எடுத்துரைக்கும் சென்னை உயர்நீத Unknown 2008-05-14T03:37:30 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/45274 Check the jumpers on your HDD. There's a 32GB Clip Limit setting jumper that needs to be changed. http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/troubleshooting_assistance/capacity_issues/ Google "hdd 32gb limit jumper" for details. - Raja PS: Please don't cross post. _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-request-nW3y/O4m2H6nF1JIJmvOGw< at >public.gmane.org with "unsubscribe <password> <address>" in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc Raja Subramanian 2008-05-14T03:27:00 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/45273 For Ubuntu Users, here is something to follow and be safe - http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/13/openssh-openssh-vulnerabilities-confirm-fix-instructions/ It is suggested to update your system with the fix available in the repos and regenerate both your user and server SSH keys. It's a PITA updating the places where you have added your keys to authorized_keys , but it's for your own safety :) H.T.H Parthan SR 2008-05-14T03:26:23 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/45272 Hello, On Tue, 13 May 2008, Roshan wrote: On reading your mail it looks very much like a BIOS problem. Most probably, the "auto" HDD configuration in your BIOS settings is not working. The live CD "kicks" the HDD system and it then acquires its "correct" settings. After that a soft reboot will work. Diagnosing this problem is probably difficult. Ask a local hardware expert to look over the cabling. Regards, Kapil. -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-request-nW3y/O4m2H6nF1JIJmvOGw< at >public.gmane.org with "unsubscribe <password> <address>" in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc Kapil Hari Paranjape 2008-05-14T01:33:00 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/45271 Hello, On Tue, 13 May 2008, Kumar Appaiah wrote: There are two different things you are mixing here: 1. Single user mode obtained by boot option "single" In this case the user *is* prompted for a password for the default installation of most systems (for example Debian). 2. Shell mode obtained by the boot option "init=/bin/sh". In this case the regular "init" is not run. Conjunction of the following: A. Use a BIOS password to disable booting except from your regular boot device. B. Use a grub password to prevent the selection of any boot option except the standard one. C. Use disk encryption "cryptsetup" to prevent someone from accessing your hard disk physically. (A) and (B) can also be replaced by D. Always use a CD/USB to boot the system. This way the system cannot be hard rebooted without your presence. For soft reboot use "kexec" which does not require the BIOS/grub. Regards, Kapil. -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, ema Kapil Hari Paranjape 2008-05-14T01:12:51 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc