http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug/21746 <pre>ManchLUG meeting originally scheduled for tomorrow, May 22nd will be cancelled. We'll reconvene next month. If anyone would like to speak on a topic OR you would like to hear about any topics in particular, please let me know. It would be interesting to hear about what things everyone are interested in. Thanks, -Kenta _______________________________________________ gnhlug-announce mailing list gnhlug-announce-Z8c80N6yweDq5qozqU1N3A&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce/ _______________________________________________ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss-Z8c80N6yweDq5qozqU1N3A&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ </pre> kenta 2012-05-22T02:34:35 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug/21745 <pre>On Fri, 18 May 2012 20:52:48 -0400 Bill Sconce &lt;sconce-fK3IMYmwzt+qndwCJWfcng&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: News from Operations: the cookie selection is o Gingerbread cookies o Chocolate-chocolate chip cookies Do we have a volunteer to bring milk? And_don't_forget_to_bring_a_Python_project'ly yrs, -Bill _______ Sent from my virusproofed Linux PC _______________________________________________ gnhlug-announce mailing list gnhlug-announce-Z8c80N6yweDq5qozqU1N3A&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce/ </pre> Bill Sconce 2012-05-22T01:01:59 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug/21744 <pre>Next Thursday is 4th Thursday, and that means... PySIG! ABI Hub, 33 South Commercial Streen, Manchester NH 7:30 PM, with a Beginners' Session preceding at 6:30 PM Bring a project, bring a question. Find out if anyone can keep Bill from talking about *his* most recent Python project. (If any, heh.) Cookie_selection_to_be_reported'ly yrs, Bill _______ Sent from my virusproofed Linux PC _______________________________________________ gnhlug-announce mailing list gnhlug-announce-Z8c80N6yweDq5qozqU1N3A&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce/ </pre> Bill Sconce 2012-05-19T00:52:48 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug/21743 <pre>https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/579308-weekend-project-replace-active-directory-with-resara-server-and-samba4 A local Linux company getting some notice from Linux.com Thought you guys might be interested if you haven't seen the article already. Cheerio! &lt;https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/579308-weekend-project-replace-active-directory-with-resara-server-and-samba4&gt; warren _______________________________________________ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss-Z8c80N6yweDq5qozqU1N3A&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ </pre> Warren Luebkeman 2012-05-18T18:25:09 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug/21742 <pre>_______________________________________________ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss-Z8c80N6yweDq5qozqU1N3A&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ </pre> Michael Nolin 2012-05-16T14:03:23 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug/21741 <pre>Yes. I've had pretty good luck with the Keyspan HS-19US (I think that's the model). But beware of the usage.: It works great for exchanging asynchronous fixed baud rate start bit and stop bit per "byte" serial data streams But devices that are actually twiddling modem control signals instead, say, for communicating with a microcontroller doing a handshake (with short time-outs) such as my girlfriend's weather station (WS3610), or on the cheap programmers for FLASH microcontrollers (like PICs), are unlikely to deal well with the fact that you can only get one simple minded transition per USB frame (1MS for low speed, 125uS for high speed). Bill On 5/14/12, Shawn O'Shea &lt;shawn-Hguq49ilrkA&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: </pre> Bill Freeman 2012-05-15T18:30:26 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug/21740 <pre>_______________________________________________ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss-Z8c80N6yweDq5qozqU1N3A&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ </pre> Michael Nolin 2012-05-15T15:55:15 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug/21739 <pre>I suspect powering off before logging out, or not doing a proper shutdown is the root of most of the problems. Especially where cache is involved. Sounds like something isn't being cleaned up and it trips up the cache. A lot of session logic depends on a coherent cache. --Just my $0.02 --Bruce On 05/15/2012 11:37 AM, Jon "maddog" Hall wrote: </pre> Bruce Dawson 2012-05-15T15:50:49 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug/21738 <pre>This sounds to me like a race condition that causes you to run out of some critical resource while the system is starting up. There are a lot of processes that are kicked off during start up and it takes an abnormal amount of resources. After you are up and running these resources are freed up as the start-up processes die. The resource that comes to mind is virtual memory "swap" space, and it may be that you need to expand that, particularly on machines with smaller amounts of main memory. Other ideas? md On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 09:20 -0400, Michael Nolin wrote: </pre> Jon "maddog" Hall 2012-05-15T15:37:11 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug/21737 <pre>_______________________________________________ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss-Z8c80N6yweDq5qozqU1N3A&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ </pre> Michael Nolin 2012-05-15T13:20:43 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug/21735 <pre>Personally I've had great experience under Windows, Mac OS X and Linux with the Keyspan adapters (now owned by Tripplite). Like this one http://www.tripplite.com/en/products/model.cfm?txtModelID=3914 -Shawn On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Bill Sconce &lt;sconce-fK3IMYmwzt+qndwCJWfcng&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss-Z8c80N6yweDq5qozqU1N3A&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ </pre> Shawn O'Shea 2012-05-15T01:54:39 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug/21734 <pre>On Sun, 13 May 2012 23:28:05 -0400 "James A. Kuzdrall" &lt;gnhlug-VIewn3mul5HQT0dZR+AlfA&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: As one of those coincidences, I'm currently working with a piece of lab gear (a vector network analyzer) which communicates with its controlling PC via ...serial. Which works fine. RS-232, nine-pin plugs, even runs under KVM. When I bought it the manufacturer offered that "it *can* be made to work with USB-to-serial adapters, some of our customers have done it". Their wiki filled in what they didn't say -- that not a few of their customers couldn't get certain adapters to work, the drivers crashed, one chipset would not work and another chipset would work, etc. My .02 would be that "real" serial is the way to go if you can. (Fortunately all of my PCs are of such a vintage that they *have* serial ports [they mostly have floppy drives, too...] :) -Bill _______ Sent from my virusproofed Linux PC </pre> Bill Sconce 2012-05-15T01:12:02 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug/21733 <pre> Well, there's a standard device *class*..., full of *specific device* IDs for different devices of the same `nominal type' that all speak different specific protocols. It's the same case for USB scanners and cameras... which look like *they're* actually *both* lumped into the same `Image' class together: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_serial_bus#Device_classes And, no--`is my imager a camera or a scanner' is not the last question you need to answer before it'll work ;) Of course, if you're implementing either side of comms for, say, a GPS..., good luck with that--they don't even have a meaningful class--they're just `serial devices' (just like your `dumb USB serial cable'): http://gpsd.berlios.de/faq.html#conflict </pre> Joshua Judson Rosen 2012-05-14T23:39:35 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug/21732 <pre>On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen &lt;rozzin-p88Y1Plo3o1l57MIdRCFDg&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: I should learn not to underestimate the craptacularness of the pee sea industry. There *is* a standard USB device class for RS-232. Not my fault nobody uses it. ;) </pre> Ben Scott 2012-05-14T23:22:36 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug/21731 <pre>On Sun, 13 May 2012 23:28:05 -0400 "James A. Kuzdrall" &lt;gnhlug-VIewn3mul5HQT0dZR+AlfA&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote Hmmm... or, perhaps it's a hardware issue. Good to know. And that clinches it. I'll get that USR model. Thanks for the suggestion! Appreciate the offer, but, while it's for a couple of weeks, they're widely separated weeks, and, b'sides, I probably should "just have one." Thanks much for everyone's advice! (Oh, and 3G isn't an option, either -- getting a 3G connection in Omps, WV (unincorporated), is akin to tuning in a weak TV signal with rabbit ears. Except harder.) -Ken </pre> Ken D'Ambrosio 2012-05-14T04:24:14 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug/21730 <pre> I have had several USB to RS232 to serial modem setups within the last 5 years, and none of them worked very well. (We have 3 computers on dialup.) I also used a number of PCMCIA cards. They run hot, and I now have 3 of them that are dead or partially working. The US Robotics unit worked out f the box with no problems. It nearly always gets the 50666KB match despite our old silk insulated copper lines in this part of Nashua. Ken, if it is only for a couple weeks, I have a spare that you can borrow. Jim Kuzdrall </pre> James A. Kuzdrall 2012-05-14T03:28:05 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug/21729 <pre>A couple comments: On Sun, 13 May 2012 11:38:20 -0400 Ben Scott &lt;dragonhawk-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote In truth, I hadn't considered this option. The sheer (potential) simplicity makes me irked at myself for not thinking of it. Well... there is one concern I have. I recall an engineer at a previous employer (that's Eric to you, Bobby) who had issues with the USB -&gt; RS232 doohickeys; I no longer recall the details, but something, IIRC, about how it was buffered caused there to be significant delays with *some* adapters. I would find that irksome. OTOH, that was under Windows, and maybe that's not a concern for Linux? Like that sign-off. Though, really, I doubt you need to qualify an "ATH" string with a 0. And, while I believe the spec calls for one-second pauses between pluses (to prevent just plain data from escaping you into command mode), I can't think of an elegant way to show that. It's amazing that the brain retains some of that stuff, along with Star/Gemini 10X escape </pre> Ken D'Ambrosio 2012-05-14T03:15:48 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug/21728 <pre>Guilty as charged. On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen &lt;rozzin-p88Y1Plo3o1l57MIdRCFDg&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt;wrote: _______________________________________________ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss-Z8c80N6yweDq5qozqU1N3A&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ </pre> David Hardy 2012-05-14T02:20:53 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug/21727 <pre> Oh, right--"peripherals" was the word I was trying to remember, where I used "devices". Preoccupied trying to get my inbox down below 600 unhandled messages, tonight.... </pre> Joshua Judson Rosen 2012-05-14T01:47:09 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug/21726 <pre>Oh, but who doesn't really? ----- Original message ----- _______________________________________________ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss-Z8c80N6yweDq5qozqU1N3A&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ </pre> Eric Stein 2012-05-14T01:38:32 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug/21725 <pre>I do love hoppy beer, and peripherals! -Bobby On May 13, 2012 9:16 PM, "Joshua Judson Rosen" &lt;rozzin-p88Y1Plo3o1l57MIdRCFDg&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss-Z8c80N6yweDq5qozqU1N3A&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ </pre> Robert Casey 2012-05-14T01:32:32 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.org.user-groups.linux.gnhlug