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Fwd: [AFRINIC-announce] AFRINIC Board Elections: Call forNominations

Adiel Akplogan — 2013-04-30T16:02:40

You may be interested.

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   You may be interested.

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   From: Babusha Radhakissoon <[1]babusha-srhSouXfoj/R7s880joybQ< at >public.gmane.org>

   Subject: [AFRINIC-announce] AFRINIC Board Elections: Call for
   Nominations

   Date: 30 April, 2013 17:33:27 PM GMT+04:00

   To: [2]announce-srhSouXfoj/R7s880joybQ< at >public.gmane.org

   Dear Colleagues,

   According to Section 13 of the AFRINIC Bylaws, the terms of following
   members occupying seats on the AFRINIC Board will expire at the end of
   June 2013:
    1. Primary: Neezar Sami (Northern Africa - Seat 1)
    2. Alternate: Khaled Koubaa (Northern Africa)
    3. Primary: Maimouna Diop (Western Africa - Seat 2)
    4. Alternate: Alioune Badara Traore (Western Africa)

   In application of the new bylaws we will also need to fill the seat of
   one of two non-regional Directors (Seat 7).

   As a result, three (3) seats on the AFRINIC Board will be open for
   election:

   A) Seat 1: From Nort

Re: Cape Town TV White Spaces trial

William Stucke — 2013-04-03T07:44:42

My pleasure, Steve.

Some useful contact people who might be in a better position to answer questions on this matter (and will hopefully forgive me for punting their names) are: -

Fortune Mgwili-SibandaPublic Policy Manager at Google South Africa
Arno HartTENET Cape Town TVWS Trial Project Manager
(Both Bcc'd on this message)

Kind regards,
 
William Stucke
ICASA Councillor
011-566-3009


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Thanks for this informative response, William.

Steve

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   > Thanks for this informative response, William.
   My pleasure, Steve.
   Some useful contact peopl

Re: Cape Town TV White Spaces trial

Steven G. Huter — 2013-04-02T14:45:45

Thanks for this informative response, William.

Steve

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Re: Cape Town TV White Spaces trial

William Stucke — 2013-04-02T08:38:18

Hi SM (who you?),

Some useful links have been provided.

While I'm not a spokesman for anyone in this matter, or on this list, I could make the following observations: -

1The radio protocol used is proprietary to the radio manufacturer. This isn't too important at this stage, as the focus on "TVWS" is about determining which spectrum can be used without causing interference, rather than how good the communication itself is, IMHO.
2The DB operates on a geo-location basis, rather than actively sensing in terms of "Cognitive Radio" principles
3ICASA and Sentech have supplied Google with data on what spectrum is supposed to be used where (TX power, antenna height, location, angle, type, etc.) Google have analysed this (not a trivial task, in contrast to someone's "face palm" comment on a TechCentral article), which involves carrying out Propagation Modelling for every transmitter within several hundred km on every frequency used, to determine which frequencies ought to be available. The CSIR then carried ou

Aereo wins battle with big networks over right to stream TVonline

dominic — 2013-04-02T05:48:45

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/apr/01/aereo-battle-networks-tv-online 

Judge in New York rules that Aereo, which airs shows online without paying
fees to media firms, does not breach copyright
 Dominic Rushe in New York
 guardian.co.uk, Monday 1 April 2013 20.57 BST

Aereo, which is backed by Barry Diller (above), was launched in March 2012
in the New York area at a cost to subscribers of $12 a month. Photograph:
Karen Bleier/AFP/Getty Images

The media mogul turned internet baron Barry Diller won a significant battle
with broadcasters on Monday over his plans to deliver TV over the web.

By a vote of two to one, a federal appeals court rejected a request from big
media companies including Disney, CBS and News Corporation to halt Aereo, a
startup backed by Diller, from airing their shows over the internet.

Aereo subscribers pay $12 month to stream live broadcasts of TV channels on
mobile devices. The company, owned by Diller's IAC, does not pay fees to the
media companies whose programmes it

Re: Cape Town TV White Spaces trial

Joe Botha — 2013-03-29T07:08:49

Hi SM                                         >< at >2013.03.28_21:52:14_GMT+0000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.22

Re: Cape Town TV White Spaces trial

SM — 2013-03-28T21:52:14

Hi William,
At 04:56 28-03-2013, William Stucke wrote:

I am interested in:

  - the protocol used for the test

  - the database location

  - the terms and conditions for the regulatory domain

  - the type of Internet access for the devices (from a protocol perspective)

Regards,
-sm 


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Re: Cape Town TV White Spaces trial

William Stucke — 2013-03-28T11:56:53

What do you want to know, over and above what's at those various links?


Kind regards,
 
William Stucke
ICASA Councillor
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http://www.tenet.ac.za/about-us/the-cape-town-tv-white-spaces-trial 

not much detailed technical information available at this point

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Sent: 28 March 2013 08:03 AM
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Subject: Re: [IOZ] Cape Town TV White Spaces trial

At 22:11 27-03-2013, Hendrik Visage wrote:

See https://www.google.org/spectrum/whitespace/index.html and http://blog.google.org/2013/03/tv-white-spaces-trial-launches-in-south.html

Regards,
-sm 


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Re: Cape Town TV White Spaces trial

dominic — 2013-03-28T08:15:07

http://www.tenet.ac.za/about-us/the-cape-town-tv-white-spaces-trial 

not much detailed technical information available at this point

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Subject: Re: [IOZ] Cape Town TV White Spaces trial

At 22:11 27-03-2013, Hendrik Visage wrote:

See https://www.google.org/spectrum/whitespace/index.html and
http://blog.google.org/2013/03/tv-white-spaces-trial-launches-in-south.html

Regards,
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Re: Cape Town TV White Spaces trial

SM — 2013-03-28T06:02:37

See https://www.google.org/spectrum/whitespace/index.html and 
http://blog.google.org/2013/03/tv-white-spaces-trial-launches-in-south.html

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Re: Cape Town TV White Spaces trial

Henry Watermeyer — 2013-03-28T05:50:17

What????

On 28/03/2013 07:11, Hendrik Visage wrote:

Re: Cape Town TV White Spaces trial

Hendrik Visage — 2013-03-28T05:11:58

Who is that Google people that is involved??
(That is the question I'll ask given the rumor I heard)

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 1:26 AM, SM <sm-6ilGXZ639oLk1uMJSBkQmQ< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

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Cape Town TV White Spaces trial

SM — 2013-03-27T23:26:12

Hello,

Is there any technical information available about the Cape Town TV 
White Spaces trial?

Regards,
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Re: Voice spectrum swapped for LTE

SM — 2013-02-25T08:42:35

Interesting question, according to the (U.S. FCC) Technical Advisory 
Council, Critical Legacy Transition Working Group:

   "the FCC should set a date after which the circuit-switched voice elements
    of the PSTN would no longer constitute the network of record in the
    United States"

 From what I read, the (target) date is based on a (U.S.) National 
Center for Health Statistics report that determined only 6% of the 
U.S. population will use the PSTN in 2018.

As a FYI, one cited article about POTS is at 
http://www.accountancysa.org.za/resources/ShowItemArticle.asp?ArticleId=1058&Issue=706

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Re: Voice spectrum swapped for LTE

William Stucke — 2013-02-25T07:31:11

OK, I'll bite. Why 2018?


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William Stucke
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At 11:42 12-02-2013, Joe Abley wrote:

http://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2013/02/pots-300x180.jpg

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To view our Disclaimer please click on the following link http://www.icasa.org.za/EmailDisclaimer/tabid/602/Default.aspx   OK, I'll bite. Why 2018?
   Kind regards,

   William Stucke
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Re: Voice spectrum swapped for LTE

SM — 2013-02-23T01:10:21

http://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2013/02/pots-300x180.jpg

Regards,
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Re: Voice spectrum swapped for LTE

Kieran Murphy — 2013-02-14T10:38:09

I work with these "International" carriers, who claim they have NOC's
around the world do that have 24/7 support.
They do, but its about as useful as having one guy with a cellphone.

Sure, they can tell you if a service is up/down and they can do basic
troubleshooting, but if it goes beyond that you end up getting told to wait
until the local engineer is awake and can investigate further. Some may
even wake the local engineer for you.



On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Graham Leggett <minfrin-QRS0OI1c9YQ< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

   I work with these "International" carriers, who claim they have NOC's
   around the world do that have 24/7 support.
   They do, but its about as useful as having one guy with a cellphone.
   Sure, they can tell you if a service is up/down and they can do basic
   troubleshooting, but if it goes beyond that you end up getting told to
   wait until the local engineer is awake and can investigate further.
   Some may even wake the local engineer for you.

   On Thu, Feb 14, 2013

Re: Voice spectrum swapped for LTE

Graham Leggett — 2013-02-14T10:02:45


Please give me the name of a local ISP who, when I call them up at 10pm, I will be put through to call centre staff in their US operation, and when I call them at 3am, I will be put through to staff in their far east operation? Serious question, I know they're coming, and I want to move my business to them.

Who owns who and who has invested money in who is ultimately meaningless, what does matter practically is "who has access to the international skills base of the parent company or brand". 


And yet speak to them about innovation and you inevitably get into an endless and ever more far fetched arguments about how stuff the rest of the world takes for granted can't ever happen in ZA. I realise how it works. Keep up the illusion of scarcity and the market will keep believing the high prices are justified. Rinse repeat for as long as possible.

Regards,
Graham
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Re: Voice spectrum swapped for LTE

Des Ramsay — 2013-02-14T07:42:44

And Greg, don't forget that IS is now effectively, if not yet fully integrated, the SA arm of Nippon
Telecom.  I agree with your post 100%.

a
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Re: Voice spectrum swapped for LTE

Samantha Perry — 2013-02-13T12:49:33

I have it on the record from Vodacom and MTN that they are refarming GSM
spectrum for LTE.

8ta and Cell C don't need to cause they have 900 (or 800, I forget) and
2600 spectrum they can use.
   On 13 February 2013 13:11, Colin Alston <[1]colin.alston-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org>
   wrote:

     On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Graham Leggett
     <[2]minfrin-QRS0OI1c9YQ< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:
     > The phone as a dedicated service is Kodak.
     Bollocks of the grandest order.
     First of all none of this has anything to do with Joe's concerns,
     namely that GSM spectrum is being re-used for LTE. I doubt it is,
     but
     who knows what the MNO's are doing to expedite LTE launches while
     all
     news indicates ICASA has gone collectively insane.

   I have it on the record from Vodacom and MTN that they are refarming
   GSM spectrum for LTE.A
   8ta and Cell C don't need to cause they have 900 (or 800, I forget) and
   2600 spectrum they can use.
   A

References

   1. mailto:c

Re: Voice spectrum swapped for LTE

Hendrik Visage — 2013-02-13T23:55:29

Let us put Liam's post in context:

Issue every student, high school scholar a BlackBerry (those that
can't do 3G only EDGE, read: GSM frequency) that they use for BBM and
you don't have any more voice channels available. No, having a GR 9
girl and GR 8 boy, this is not far fetched, its close to fact  today.

Oh, and you do know that there are these half rate GSM features that
cellphones have to use half the frequency/bit rate for a call which
gives more channels for the cell, but halves the call quality?

I have seen these mobile Vodacom base stations all over the Bellville
area, and I have Vodacom friends that complains about Vodacom call
quality in this area... I guess that in this Bellville area nearly
everybody (except me) have a Vodacom cell phone close to the Vodacom
TEchnoCentre :(

GSM (and all radio based stuff which isn't licensed point-to-point)
have no guarantees when you start adding and/or moving stuff around,
so if you do care about real call quality, for all their faults,
Telkom still is the