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Re: M$ Has Stooped To A New Low

Brandon Invergo — 2013-01-27T00:21:21

Wow...it's official, our society officially deems us old when
advertisers see fit to appeal to our sense of nostalgia. 

But anyway, that ad had nothing to do with IE until the very end, so
it's not even worth responding to as anything more than advertising
drivel. 

-brandon

Re: M$ Has Stooped To A New Low

2013-01-26T23:47:41


I empathize with that point of view but maybe we (and by we, I mean
everyone in society, including you and me) should just cut them some
slack. I mean we're all just people and we all have our idiosyncrasies
(even if sometimes some of us seem to be more idiosyncratic than others!).
:)

Perhaps if all of us, those for Free Software and those against, separated
the message from the person, we might all be able to have healthy
conversations instead of being caught up with a personality war. This is a
difficult task for sure but it's necessary.

Re: M$ Has Stooped To A New Low

2013-01-26T22:22:46

Hey people,

I don't think we should be making fun of Microsoft's products and/or
Microsoft's employees that way. Not only is it just mean but it actually
distracts from the core issue at hand: that Microsoft sells proprietary
software and that proprietary software is morally unacceptable and that
really is the problem. After all, if the people at Microsoft suddenly
decided to embrace Free Software tomorrow and make all their software Free
Software, then our problems with Microsoft would cease.

We making fun of Microsoft and Ballmer is quite similar to proprietary
software advocates who discount Free Software and the GNU project by
making fun of Richard Stallman (who is a pretty easy target and most of us
have seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ).

If we think making fun of Richard Stallman to discount Free Software is
unfair, then us making fun of Ballmer to discount Microsoft is unfair too.
Let's focus on the core issues and not let these other things distract us.

Just my two cents.

Best,
Al

Re: M$ Has Stooped To A New Low

Patrick Anderson — 2013-01-26T23:23:33

One the one hand I agree and feel a tinge of regret.

Any time spent talking about *anything* beyond defeating proprietary
production is a distraction.



On the other hand, both RMS and Ballmer and that Win8 ad could be
improved by listening honestly to how society perceives them.



Both of these characters need to wake up to the damage they cause when
they act in such bizarre ways.

Re: M$ Has Stooped To A New Low

Patrick Anderson — 2013-01-26T15:41:33

That was clumsy and painful.

This might clear your head:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE

Re: M$ Has Stooped To A New Low

Kleuskes & Moos — 2013-01-26T13:27:49


Right.

Re: M$ Has Stooped To A New Low

Kleuskes & Moos — 2013-01-26T13:29:18


I loathed them in the 90, too. Let's rekindle that and aim for a all new drive-by download experience. It was crap then, it's crap now.

ayris beauty machine details ayris for dummies

Elvin King — 2013-01-10T14:13:16

The simple Ayris Beauty Machine revolution.
Will prove very practical and successfull as you can tell, especially when having browsed my build and search list i composed.


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Today's Topics:

   1. NYC LOCAL: Thursday 10 January 2013 NYLUG: Theodore T'so on
      the ext4

NYC LOCAL: Wednesday 9 January 2013 NYCBUG: Eitan Adler on What's Newwith FreeBSD?

2013-01-09T19:58:52

<blockquote
  what="official NYC*BUG announcement"
  edits="">

 To: announce< at >lists.nycbug.org, talk <talk< at >lists.nycbug.org>
 From: NYC*BUG Announcements <announce< at >lists.nycbug.org>
 Subject: [announce] NYC*BUG Tonight

 NYC*BUG January 9th: Eitan Adler on "What's New with FreeBSD?"
 NYC*BUG February 7th: John Baldwin on SMPng
 BSDCan Call for Papers Open until January 19th
 Recertify your BSDA Certification

 ***

 January 9 2013 < at > 18:45 - Location: Suspenders
 http://www.nycbug.org/?action=locations#suspenders

 What's New with FreeBSD, Eitan Adler

 This will be an open-ended Q&A-style talk covering some new of recent 
 enhancements to FreeBSD as well some of the experimental upcoming 
 changes. By the end of the talk you should have heard about one FreeBSD 
 technology you hadn't heard of before.

 About the speaker:

 Eitan is a third year student at SUNY Binghamton studying Computer 
 Science. He has been using FreeBSD since 6.2. He is a src, ports, and 
 doc developer and is part of the BugBusting tea

NYC LOCAL: Thursday 10 January 2013 NYLUG: Theodore T'so on the ext4filesystem

2013-01-08T07:27:38

<blockquote
  what="official NYLUG announcement"
  note="NYC*BUG will meet on Wednesday 9 January 2013:
        What's New with FreeBSD, with Eitan Adler
        http://www.nycbug.org/?action=home&id=10332"
  edits="">

 From: NYLUG Announcements <info< at >nylug.org>
 To: NYLUG Announcements <nylug-announce< at >nylug.org>
 Message-Id: <20121228003933.953A4E5C4F< at >gotham.nylug.org>
 Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 19:39:33 -0500 (EST)
 Subject: [nylug-announce] NYLUG Presents: 1/10 < at > 6:30PM Theodore T'so on The ext4 filesystem
 Reply-To: Announcements from NYLUG <nylug-announce< at >nylug.org>

 Thursday, January 10, 2013
 6:30 PM - 8:00 PM
 Chelsea Market Office
 75 Ninth Ave, 2nd Floor
 NY, NY 10011
 *** RSVP Closes at 12:00 PM the day of the meeting (sharp!) ***
 Please RSVP for EVERY meeting at this time.
 Register at http://rsvp.nylug.org/ or http://www.meetup.com/nylug-meetings/

                                 Theodore T'so
                                    - on -
                              The ext4 filesystem

 Ted wil

NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 8 January 2013 Lisp NYC: Raymond Puzio on AHyperreal Dictionary of Mathematics

2013-01-07T03:00:55

<blockquote
  what="official LispNYC announcement from
        http://lispnyc.org/"
  edits="list of mailing list posts removed">

 Subject: New York City Lisp User Group: A Hyperreal Dictionary of Mathematics
 X-URL: http://lispnyc.org/

    corner New York City
    Lisp Group LispNYC.org meetings blogs news home

    ( front-page )

    Upcoming related events:
      * Jan 23-25, Lambda Next in Berlin, Germany
      * Feb, 12, Erlang Factory Lite 2013 in Munich, Germany
      * Mar 18-20, Clojure West in Portland, Oregon
      * Jun 1-4, European Lisp Symposium 2013 - ELS'13 in Madrid, Spain

    ( meeting - Tuesday, January 8, 7:00 PM - A Hyperreal Dictionary of
    Mathematics )

    PlanetMath is a virtual community that aims to make mathematics more
    accessible. Over the years, some of the PlanetMath contributors have been
    doing research on how to improve PlanetMath's software-on the one hand,
    adding new features to the user interface, and on the other, adding
    artificial intelligence fea

decentralized server, new critical encyclopedea and community

Elvin King — 2012-12-29T13:33:16


A number of things are very important

create a code for a decentralized server to liberate and make information output untraceable and impossible to police.

keep the openness of the apple/windows operating system and have graphic designers go over it with flash and create a living flame in stead of a garbage can, etc, "organic-size" the computer content.

  I have a design for a search engine and pc operating system> 
Each profile has a picture header as a book cover for the topic depicted in a browser system, the browser system works like an old dia projector, it can be set to play all profiles slowly or at faster pace




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seductive pretty gives moans

Hugo — 2012-12-24T12:59:07

seductive pretty gives moans  http://t.co/Db73GYd5

NYC LOCAL: Wednesday 12 December 2012 NY Haskell: Edward Kmett onLenses, Folds, and Traversals

2012-12-11T10:15:26

<blockquote
  what="official New York City Haskell Users Group announcement"
  edits="">

 From: Gershom B <gershomb< at >gmail.com>
 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:46:19 -0500
 To: haskell-cafe< at >haskell.org
 Subject: [Haskell-cafe] ANN: NY Haskell presents Edward Kmett on Lenses, Folds, and Traversals -- Wed., December 12

 The first NY Haskell Users Group meetup was a great success -- with
 roughly sixty attendees and conversations that stretched far too late
 for a weekday night. Video and slides are available for both the
 Practical Data Processing and Cloud Haskell talks:

 Video: http://vimeo.com/53906049
 Slides on Practical Data Processing:
 http://gbaz.github.com/slides/PracticalData-11-2012.pdf
 Slides on Cloud Haskell: http://gbaz.github.com/slides/cloud-11-2012.html
 Source for Cloud Haskell:
 https://github.com/gbaz/slides/blob/gh-pages/cloud-11-2012.lhs

 We expect our next meetup will be equally exciting, at a bare minimum.
 We're actively seeking cool talks and presentations. If you're not a
 New York l

NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 11 December 2012: Big Computer Folk Party in NewYork City

2012-12-10T06:31:52

<blockquote
  what="announcement by UNIGROUP of Big Party"
  where-when="The Big Party starts at 7:00 pm
              Tuesday 11 December 2012 on
              the second floor of
              The House of Brews
              302 West 51st Street
              on the Island of the Manahattoes"
  note="Below from http://www.meetup.com/NY-Haskell/events/92090222/:
        All folks of all technical levels and interests are
        welcome.
        There is no fixed agenda, just having a good time with
        fellow geeks."
  personal="Brad Burnham of Union Square Ventures, please come!"
  and-further="Edward Kmett will speak on his implementation
               of lenses in Haskell on
               Wednesday 12 December 2012
               at the New York Haskell Users Group.
               See
               http://www.meetup.com/NY-Haskell/events/91576512/"
  edits="We removed almost everything except
         the party announcement.">

 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 17:29:59 -0500 (EST)
 From: Unigroup_of_NY <u

Israel Broadcast Authority website, forced M* www/player software,DRM issues, audio feed in the U.S., free software,and helping the defining characteristics of speech that is limited tothat which reflects the Jewish and democratic nature of theState of Israel

John R. Towler — 2012-12-07T03:47:36

M-x search-forward "\subsection{Immediate offense given the context
above:}"

for the narrowed to subject legal issue.  

The section net slowdown and ff. place the context of that IBA website
design issue which has if carefully done, much greater in Israel, and
then etc. legal force than might ordinarily be the case for free
software issues.  The gmane:linux.region.israel crosspost might be more
on topic as primary, but due to some daily legal threats, and network
freedom concerns which may be manifest in this process, getting through
is a concern.  Not so easy to contact the ACRI about some of the legal
issues involved.  Let the moderators decide.  Someone will take a look,
and the lock on my access to information/news/and
facilities/persons/environments by elements of the police/executive
branch personnel in the Twin Cities, MN area (St. Paul, MN, Ramsey
County, Hennepin County is across the Miss. river in Minneapolis, MN).

I haven't read this newsgroup much, but, I am waiting on parts to print
legal do

NYC LOCAL: Two Gatherings on Wednesday 5 December 2012: NYCBUGunHoliday Meeting and ISOC-NY with NYTech Meeting on DDOS

2012-12-04T07:57:19

<blockquote
  what="official Internet Society of New York announcement and official NYC*BUG announcement"
  note="The ISOC-NY/NYTech meeting on distributed denial of service attacks
        starts early, see notice below."
  upcoming="NYC*BUG has joined with LispNYC, NY Haskell, the New York Linux User
            Group (NYLUG), PuppetNYC, LOPSA-NY, and more, to hold
            a holiday party on
            Tuesday, December 11, 2012 from 7:00 PM until it's over.
            in the House of Brews (http://www.houseofbrewsny.com/)
            at 302 W 51st Street, Island of the Manahattoes,
            in the upstairs room.
            See front page of
            http://lispnyc.org/"
  announcements-separator-string="*********.....*************************"
  edits="many due to odd conventions used in ISOC-NY email">

 Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 09:52:41 -0500
 From: David Solomonoff <president< at >isoc-ny.org>
 Subject: Mitigating DDoS Attacks 12/5/2012

 Mitigating DDoS Attacks 12/5/2012 
 <http://isoc-ny.org/p2

NYC LOCAL: November and December 2012 Evan Korth's Computers andSociety Series Talks by Doug Rushkoff, Brad Burnham, Aram Sinnreich

2012-11-27T08:56:26

<blockquote
  what="official announcement of meetings of
        Evan Korth's Computers and Society Series, re-sent by
        The Internet Society, New York Chapter"
  edits="adventitious markup removed, some reformatting of paragraphs">

 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:47:17 -0500
 To: announce< at >isoc-ny.org
 From: ISOC-NY announcements <announce< at >lists.isoc-ny.org>
 Subject: [isoc-ny] Computers and Society - Great upcoming free talks at NYU
 Reply-To: president< at >isoc-ny.org

 ISOC-NY is again happy to sponsor Evan Korth's Computers and
 Society Series at the Courant Institute at NYU. These talks are
 part of an undergraduate course, however ISOC-NY members and the
 public are free to attend - please register at the meetup links
 provided.

 All talks from 3:30-4:45 in room 109 of 251 Mercer Street NYC on the
 following dates:

 27-Nov-12: Doug Rushkoff -  Computers for Humans
 29-Nov-12: Brad Burnham - A Narrative on the Threat to Internet Freedom

 4-Dec-12:  Aram Sinnreich - The Piracy Crusade: How the Music Ind

Re: New Documentation License--Comments Requested

Luca Saiu — 2012-11-22T10:51:13

You didn't include any information, but creating new licenses tends to
be a bad idea.  Don't.

NYC LOCAL: Thursday 15 November 2012 Internet Society of New York:Discussion of the New Copyright Alert System

2012-11-15T08:13:03

<blockquote
  what="official ISOC-NY announcement"
  to-register="http://isoc-ny.org/p2/4429"
  time="This event starts at 3:00 pm, 15 November 2012."
  place="New York Law School
         185 West Broadway
         NY, NY 10013"
  invalid-assumption-behind-proposed-system="The Englobulators
          have the legal right and the practical power to wiretap all
          Net traffic, and to suppress traffic they do not like."
  part-of-our-response="Encrypt."
  edits="">

 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:53:31 -0500
 From: David Solomonoff <president< at >isoc-ny.org>
 Reply-To: president< at >isoc-ny.org
 Subject: [isoc-ny] NEWS RELEASE: Internet Society and its New York Chapter to Host Open Forum Discussion on the New Copyright Alert System

 *Internet Society and its New York Chapter to Host Open Forum Discussion 
 on the New Copyright Alert System*

 INET New York will initiate a discussion on the new Copyright Alert 
 System (CAS) aimed at warning Internet users about illegally downloaded 
 content

 [Washington, D.C. a

NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 13 November 2012 Lisp NYC: Drew Krause:Introduction to Algorithmic Composition

2012-11-13T08:39:48

<blockquote
  what="official Lisp NYC announcement
        from
        http://lispnyc.org"
  more="http://wordecho.org/"
  time="7:00 pm on
        Tuesday 13 November 2012"
  place:"Meetup HQ - 9th Floor
         166 Crosby Street
         New York, NY 10012"
  edits="some reformatting">

 Drew Krause (wordecho.org) presents an introduction to
 algorithmic composition using Lisp, including several currently
 available Lisp music applications.  Additionally he discusses his
 own music work in Lisp, which includes search, constraint
 programming, random processes and other techniques.

 Drew has been using Lisp for over 10 years to compose chamber,
 orchestral, electronic and choral works. He is the author of the
 Common Lisp Composer's Library for algorithmic music composition
 and is on the music faculty of New York University.

 Complimentary pizza and beer are provided by Meetup.


 Location:

 Meetup HQ - 9th Floor
 166 Crosby Street
 New York, NY 10012

</blockquote>


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