http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/6270 <pre>Thanks Richard! Yes, indeed, you may want to check out the discussion pages on those articles and see if this topic has come up before about creating a new page outright for "Libre". You could further help your case by seeing if there is any content that would not fit appropriately on these two articles (or any other for that matter) but would make sense to be posted on a "Libre" article. If you find this to be the case, I'd even recommend adding an explanation and links to the "Discussion" page. // Matt On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Pharos &lt;pharosofalexandria&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt;wrote: _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss&lt; at &gt;freeculture.org http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss </pre> Matthew Senate 2012-05-23T23:04:35 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/6269 <pre>You also might want to keep these articles in mind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratis_versus_libre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_terms_for_free_software Thanks, Richard On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Matthew Senate &lt;mattsenate&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss&lt; at &gt;freeculture.org http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss </pre> Pharos 2012-05-23T22:52:21 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/6268 <pre>Great work so far, I added some grammatical and clarification changes to the first paragraph, would love to continue the conversation on-wiki. Two meta-level thoughts: 1. Be bold! Posting content on Wikipedia and getting feedback from other wikipedians will help the article grow and provide opportunities to improve. Although it's hard to say what other folks might think or whether this issue has come up previously, I have a good feeling that the term "Libre" is notable enough to form an article as it both encapsulates a recognized gap in the English lexicon and has particular significance to particularly notable social movements (e.g. free/libre software/culture). 2. While the footnotes are great, it would be valuable to reserve &lt;ref&gt;'s for citations to reliable material. If we can find some more secondary resources, I think it will help this article stand up on its own legs and encourage the addition of further content and references down the line. Good work, keep up the editing! // Matt On Wed, May 23</pre> Matthew Senate 2012-05-23T22:37:47 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/6267 <pre>Hi folks, A couple of months ago I was drafting a Wikipedia page for 'libre', and I finally returned to incorporate the remaining feedback I'd received. I'll publish it in the next couple of days, but I thought I should give you a chance to look over it before I do so: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sanglorian/sandbox Feel free to make any edits you like to the article itself, or leave a comment on the talk page and I'll incorporate it. Cheers, Chris *Chris Sakkas **Admin of the FOSsil Bank wiki &lt;http://fossilbank.wikidot.com/&gt; and the Living Libre blog &lt;http://www.livinglibre.com&gt; and Twitter feed&lt;https://twitter.com/#%21/living_libre&gt; .* _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss&lt; at &gt;freeculture.org http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss </pre> Chris Sakkas 2012-05-23T21:55:23 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/6266 <pre> Very neat. Unlike many such petitions, it doesn't try to expand the focus to incorporate a bunch of ideals that water down the goal and make it more objectionable; it's sharply focussed on what will be both very effective and difficult for opponents to reasonably oppose. </pre> Ben Finney 2012-05-22T21:41:49 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/6265 <pre>https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/require-free-access-over-internet-scientific-journal-articles-arising-taxpayer-funded-research/wDX82FLQ?utm_source=wh.gov&amp;utm_medium=shorturl&amp;utm_campaign=shorturl Almost 4000 signatures from just today. Please consider signing if you haven't already done so. ---------- ** Require free access over the Internet to scientific journal articles arising from taxpayer-funded research. We believe in the power of the Internet to foster innovation, research, and education. Requiring the published results of taxpayer-funded research to be posted on the Internet in human and machine readable form would provide access to patients and caregivers, students and their teachers, researchers, entrepreneurs, and other taxpayers who paid for the research. Expanding access would speed the research process and increase the return on our investment in scientific research. The highly successful Public Access Policy of the National Institutes of Health proves that this can be d</pre> Timothy Vollmer 2012-05-21T21:22:13 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/6264 <pre>I love these updates. Keep it up! We need a knowledge curation consortium. And some related categories for recognizing great work, for the OER awards event later this year. SJ On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Chris Sakkas &lt;sanglorian&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; wrote: </pre> Samuel Klein 2012-05-20T02:09:15 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/6263 <pre>Hi folks, Another Saturday, another update. Quite a few entries this time. If you missed it earlier, there is an RSS feed of new pages on the wiki. You can get it here.&lt;http://www.feedrinse.com/services/rinse/?rinsedurl=dbefeb94b675595652981093a42324c9&gt;There's no way to separate new libre entries from new proprietary entries, unfortunately Wikidot doesn't give us that option. The FOSsil Bank is a wiki that catalogues libre and proprietary shareable works (free culture, Creative Commons, open content, open source, free software, open knowledge, open hardware, etc.). This week, several entries have been added to the wiki: New Entries on FOSsil Bank Libre - Old Book Art, &lt;http://fossilbank.wikidot.com/source:old-book-art&gt; a site that collects scanned images. A number of entities are claiming copyright or physical rights holder rights over the images, but the images themselves are public domain. - Feedback Loops in Game Design,&lt;http://fossilbank.wikidot.com/work:feedback-loops-in-game-design&gt;a</pre> Chris Sakkas 2012-05-19T17:43:44 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/6262 <pre> Great work! I don't know how you're generating the feed, so I don't have any informed opinion on how hard it would be to get the license information into the feed. _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss&lt; at &gt;freeculture.org http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss </pre> Karl Fogel 2012-05-17T17:36:34 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/6261 <pre>Hey Karl, I *think *I've created an RSS feed that is limited to the new pages on the FOSsil Bank: http://www.feedrinse.com/services/rinse/?rinsedurl=dbefeb94b675595652981093a42324c9 One problem is that it doesn't distinguish between new libre entries and new non-libre shareable entries. I don't think that there's any way around that. Thanks for your enthusiasm and suggestions! Chris *Chris Sakkas **Admin of the FOSsil Bank wiki &lt;http://fossilbank.wikidot.com/&gt; and the Living Libre blog and Twitter feed &lt;https://twitter.com/#%21/living_libre&gt;.* On 13 May 2012 19:07, Karl Fogel &lt;kfogel&lt; at &gt;questioncopyright.org&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss&lt; at &gt;freeculture.org http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss </pre> Chris Sakkas 2012-05-17T15:35:20 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/6260 <pre>http://chronicle.com/article/Long-Awaited-Ruling-in/131859/ A federal judge in Atlanta has handed down a long-awaited ruling in a lawsuit brought by three scholarly publishers against Georgia State University over its use of copyrighted material in electronic reserves. The ruling, delivered on Friday, looks mostly like a victory for the university, finding that only five of 99 alleged copyright infringements did in fact violate the plaintiffs' copyrights. Alex --- Alexander Leavitt PhD Student USC Annenberg School for Communication &amp; Journalism http://alexleavitt.com Twitter: &lt; at &gt;alexleavitt _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss&lt; at &gt;freeculture.org http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss </pre> Alex Leavitt 2012-05-14T01:45:59 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/6259 <pre> Just reconfirming that I think this is a great idea. Nice list of stuff this week! I'd love to have a panel on QuestionCopyright.org showing the freely-licensed stuff from each weekly update. That's a Drupal site, so I'm sure there are panels that can display (say) and RSS feed, if a feed ever becomes available. Not trying to guilt you into it -- just giving an example of the kind of use that a feed would be put to. Best, -K _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss&lt; at &gt;freeculture.org http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss </pre> Karl Fogel 2012-05-13T17:07:34 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/6258 <pre>Social links: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/duplicates/tk4rt http://www.reddit.com/r/Filmmakers/duplicates/tk42h http://identi.ca/notice/93613084 https://twitter.com/DPic/status/201426521628491776 Blender's Open Movie Projects&lt;http://www.blender.org/features-gallery/blender-open-projects/&gt; have already proved that it's possible to produce stunningly high-quality 3D animated films exclusively using free software in a studio setting. Now, a new animated short film called Tube &lt;http://urchn.org/media&gt;, inspired by the ancient epic poem of Gilgamesh, is expanding on that work to bring free culture to the masses. The Tube project is not merely evidence of the technical capabilities of free software tools like Blender&lt;http://www.blender.org/&gt; , PiTiVi &lt;http://www.pitivi.org/&gt;, and Fedora &lt;http://fedoraproject.org/&gt; GNU/Linux, but living proof of their viability for independent filmmakers. The most impressive aspect of the project is that it has managed to come together through distributed collaboration between 5</pre> Danny Piccirillo 2012-05-12T21:47:42 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/6257 <pre> Hi folks, As I mentioned last week, I'll share the works added to the FOSsil Bank each week on this mailing list. Let me know if this bothers you. The FOSsil Bank is a wiki that catalogues libre and proprietary shareable works (free culture, Creative Commons, open content, open source, free software, open knowledge, open hardware, etc.). This week, several entries have been added to the wiki: New Entries on FOSsil Bank Libre - The results of the One Page Dungeon Contest 2012&lt;http://fossilbank.wikidot.com/work:one-page-dungeon-contest-2012&gt;are available for download. They’re dungeons designed for tabletop roleplaying games (many are in the style of Dungeons &amp; Dragons, but they’re rules-free). Gratis PDFs under CC BY-SA. - Maki &lt;http://fossilbank.wikidot.com/work:maki&gt; is a collection of symbols made for the OpenStreetMap project. Each 'thing' has three different vector maps based on what resolution it's meant to be displayed at (so the most basic 'bike' icon is blocky an</pre> Chris Sakkas 2012-05-12T10:10:38 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/6256 <pre>I agree – and there are lots of projects working on it, to just mention 2 more web-related ones: http://freedomboxfoundation.org &amp; http://freenetworkfoundation.org It‘s a long effort though, and using proprietary servers out of our control only as distributed commodity storage is definitely a step in the right direction, also because data is in control of users and not taken hostage on servers of individual apps. At the moment though, the perfect is the enemy of the good. Software freedom should only be a means of people freedom. And having that software inclusive, visible, usable and interconnected is a requirement for that. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:09 PM, wrote: _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss&lt; at &gt;freeculture.org http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss </pre> Jan-Christoph Borchardt 2012-05-08T12:39:12 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/6255 <pre> We, the users, must co-own the servers and the buildings housing those servers, and the ISP connecting us to those servers, and the factories used to create those servers, and the power-plants used to power those servers, and the fields used to supply the food needed to power our bodies, and the water-rights needed to grow that food, and the mines needed to create all the tools needed for those operations, and all the other parts, recursively, for all the production needed to continuously recreate our daily needs for all the things we need. To leave any of this to corporations that we do not control is to relinquish control of the planet to those that must subjugate us in a variety of ways to perpetuate the scarcity required in their maniacal quest to keep price above costs. Patrick Anderson http://SocialSufficiencyCoalition.BlogSpot.com http://ImputedProduction.BlogSpot.com _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss&lt; at &gt;freeculture.org http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/</pre> Patrick Anderson 2012-05-08T10:09:51 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/6254 <pre>We have https://github.com/freeculture Let me know your usernames so I can add you. Patrick: regarding Stallman, that's exactly why I work on http://unhosted.org - whereas many free software people hate on Javascript, it's actually the solution for free software on the web because it all runs on your own computer. Hosted "free software" on the other hand still gives more power to servers - we have to unhost web apps so the power &amp; logic is at the client, and servers are only used as stupid, encrypted commodity storage. Google can not be compared to Github because on Github we don't have any personal data - everything is open (except the Issues) and accessible through an open protocol, git. In addition to not covering any costs, we also don't need to do the work that is maintaining a git server. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Patrick Anderson &lt;agnucius&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss&lt; at &gt;freeculture.org http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listin</pre> Jan-Christoph Borchardt 2012-05-08T09:37:12 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/6253 <pre> Well, as long as each item in the feed says what type it is (e.g., new page vs edit page) that's a good start, since the client side can do filtering then. -K _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss&lt; at &gt;freeculture.org http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss </pre> Karl Fogel 2012-05-06T17:04:25 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/6252 <pre>Hi Karl, I've spent a little while trying to find such an option and I'm afraid I can't find it. There is an option to subscribe to all site changes ( http://fossilbank.wikidot.com/feed/site-changes.xml) but that includes metadata changes, page edits, etc., not just new pages. Does anyone know if Wikidot offers a feed for just new pages? Cheers, *Chris Sakkas **Admin of the FOSsil Bank wiki &lt;http://fossilbank.wikidot.com/&gt; and the Living Libre blog and Twitter feed &lt;https://twitter.com/#%21/living_libre&gt;.* On 6 May 2012 04:21, Karl Fogel &lt;kfogel&lt; at &gt;questioncopyright.org&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss&lt; at &gt;freeculture.org http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss </pre> Chris Sakkas 2012-05-06T07:24:58 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/6251 <pre> This is great. I personally don't mind seeing it on the mailing list, but what would be even better would be some way to subscribe to a feed directly from the web site. Doesn't matter whether its straight Atom or RSS or PubSubHubbub or what -- as long as its an API, people can work with it. Does Wikidot offer a way for you to do that? Best, -Karl _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss&lt; at &gt;freeculture.org http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss </pre> Karl Fogel 2012-05-06T02:21:18 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/6250 <pre> Hi folks, I thought a useful thing I could do to raise the profile of the FOSsil Bank is make weekly updates of what new entries have been added to the wiki. If these are inappropriate for this mailing list, let me know and I'll stop making them. I've also made this update on my blog,&lt;https://livinglibre1.wordpress.com/2012/05/05/fossil-bank-update-for-5-may/&gt;and have committed to doing it every week (so there'll be new content on my blog every week - I promise!) Anyway, I hope you find this useful! New Entries on FOSsil Bank *Libre* - *In the Shade of the Commons, *&lt;http://fossilbank.wikidot.com/work:in-the-shade-of-the-commons&gt;a collection of articles about bridging the gap between information societies. (CC BY-SA; free PDF download) - Two works from artist Bill Brown&lt;http://fossilbank.wikidot.com/source:bill-brown&gt;: a hundred pixelated images of New Orleans homes and a hundred pixelated images of cameras. (CC BY; free EPS/AI/PNG download) - ‘Sharing is Caring’,&lt;http://fossilb</pre> Chris Sakkas 2012-05-05T08:08:52 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.org.freeculture.discuss