gmane.network.gopher.general

Re: [gopher] Updated Gopher RFC

Damien Carol — 2012-05-23T20:37:20

There are http://piratepad.net. MORE easy to use than google "crap" docs

2012/5/23 Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org>

Re: [gopher] Robots.txt

Damien Carol — 2012-05-23T20:33:24

The GOGOPH crawler use robots.txt files

It use http://www.robotstxt.org/orig.html#format

You can also specify "Crawl-delay" value.

More info here => http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robots_exclusion_standard

I think the crawler of Veronica follow robots.txt files.

2012/5/23 Nuno J. Silva <nunojsilva-s6mEjpzMaPUVhHzd4jOs4w< at >public.gmane.org>

Re: [gopher] Updated Gopher RFC

Nick Matavka — 2012-05-23T20:24:22

Well, gentlefolks, here it is.  My draft RFC.  It is here in three
formats, and you can choose depending on the capabilities of your
computer or bandwidth.  The .md file is a Markdown version, i.e.
GENTLY marked-up plain text.  The HTML version is plain HTML, should
display in any browser including Lynx.

There is also the fancy Google Docs version for editors, at
www.tinyurl.com/gopherrfc-draft

Re: [gopher] Robots.txt

Nuno J. Silva — 2012-05-23T20:25:15


(AFAIK, the gopher crawlers out there which respect robots.txt, and the
server administrators who have such files, are following the same format
used in the web.)

Re: [gopher] Robots.txt

Kim Holviala — 2012-05-23T20:20:19


http://www.robotstxt.org/orig.html





- Kim

[gopher] Robots.txt

Nick Matavka — 2012-05-23T20:17:59

Could I have the spec to, or perhaps somebody's explanation of, the
robots.txt file?  This will help me to explain it in my RFC.

Re: [gopher] Minimalist Graphical Gopher Client

Damien Carol — 2012-05-23T18:03:10

This menu was auto-generated. Selector-value are stored in hashmap.

The order can be strange sometimes :)

2012/5/23 Kim Holviala <kim-80HoypwBpWdWk0Htik3J/w< at >public.gmane.org>

Re: [gopher] Minimalist Graphical Gopher Client

Kim Holviala — 2012-05-23T16:19:34


What's your sort order on the Gogoph server? Not alphabetical, nor by date.... just wondering.



- Kim

[gopher] Minimalist Graphical Gopher Client

Damien Carol — 2012-05-23T15:54:34

Hello everybody !

I working on graphical gopher client.

(No java, it use C++ and QT.)

You can test it here : gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/gogoph-browser

To compile, install libraries for QT 4 and run :

$> qmake && make

THAT'S ALL !

Regards,

Re: [gopher] caps.txt complete syntax

Bradley D. Thornton — 2012-05-23T15:31:25

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Totally kewl :)


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Re: [gopher] caps.txt complete syntax

Jacob Dahl Pind — 2012-05-23T14:28:28

When I look back in the lists, delimeter was writen multiple times, and 
noone seems to have commented on that, so either people spell as badly as 
I do or they realized that the key aint the importaint thing but the value 
is.

I looked at the overbite protocol.js and saw your comment on it, and would 
second that oppion that its too late to fix that now, lets retain it as 
our version of "kernal".

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Re: [gopher] caps.txt complete syntax

Bradley D. Thornton — 2012-05-23T13:53:56

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On 05/23/2012 06:34 AM, Damien Carol wrote:

http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general


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Re: [gopher] caps.txt complete syntax

Bradley D. Thornton — 2012-05-23T13:32:36

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On 05/23/2012 06:12 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:


Perhaps just posting a link to the thread in the list archives instead
of rehashing this?

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Re: [gopher] caps.txt complete syntax

Damien Carol — 2012-05-23T13:34:47

HERE :>     => gopher://gophernicus.org/0/doc/gopher/gopher-caps.txt

2012/5/23 Cameron Kaiser <spectre-nb4sah8SP49Wk0Htik3J/w< at >public.gmane.org>

Re: [gopher] caps.txt complete syntax

Cameron Kaiser — 2012-05-23T13:12:39

Where was everybody the first time we talked about this?

Re: [gopher] caps.txt complete syntax

Christoph Lohmann — 2012-05-23T12:32:30

Greetings.

On Wed, 23 May 2012 14:32:30 +0200 Kim Holviala <kim< at >holviala.com> wrote:

My counter proposal would be:

PathDelim=/

Key‐matching  should  be case‐insensitive and strncmp() be used to check
for the short forms. That way the dyslexic, the standard  and  the  lan‐
guage nazis are right. It's a win-win-win situation.

That’s how a variable storing it would be shortened and maybe that’s the
reason why programmers don’t know how to write »delimiter«.


Sincerely,

Christoph Lohmann


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Re: [gopher] caps.txt complete syntax

Jacob Dahl Pind — 2012-05-23T08:33:25

need a dyslexia flag in it then , dyslexia=yas, no

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Re: [gopher] caps.txt complete syntax

Kim Holviala — 2012-05-23T08:28:27


Nope, wontfix. Like I said in the previous message, the original spec is 
right, those who can spell are wrong.



- Kim

Re: [gopher] caps.txt complete syntax

Damien Carol — 2012-05-23T08:21:09

There something wrong on some servers.

The correct english world is "delimiter". BUT floodgap.com have
"PathDelimeter=/" in his caps.txt file.

I copy/pasted the floodgap version then I have also the wrong one =)

Can we fix it at "PathDelimiter=/"  ???



2012/5/23 Kim Holviala <kim-80HoypwBpWdWk0Htik3J/w< at >public.gmane.org>

Re: [gopher] caps.txt complete syntax

Kim Holviala — 2012-05-23T06:40:59


The spec is right, the ones who can spell wrong :-).

It's our own version of "HTTP referer".


- Kim

Re: [gopher] caps.txt complete syntax

Nick Matavka — 2012-05-23T06:29:07

I have noticed an error in a lot of the caps files, but I don't know
if it would be worth the effort to fix it at this point or not.  I
have noticed that one of the lines in caps files says this:

### PATH SECTION. USE THESE DEFAULT VALUES IF YOU ARE ON A POSIX FILESYSTEM ###

# This tells the client how to cut up a selector into a breadcrumb menu.
# This is a simple ASCII string. If it is not specified, the selector is
# treated as if it were opaque. The client may collapse consecutive
# delimiters (e.g., x//y is treated as x/y) except if PathParentDouble is
# true (for Mac).
PathDelimeter=/

PathDelimiter.  With an I.  Not an E.

Is it worth the effort for server ops to fix this?

On 23 May 2012 00:38, Kim Holviala <kim-80HoypwBpWdWk0Htik3J/w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote: