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Re: Re: Bernie interview

2013-06-16T18:55:20

Yes - Bernie is one amazing individual without a doubt!

I thought the show last week was great. Really solid. Short, but also had two small sections showcasing both Bill an Graves. Bill was very happy with the outcome. 

This was my first time catching them live. Zorn and Bill both are definitely into this combo - a number of months ago at Bill's they were talking about gigs and both seemed really into doing more with Graves. 


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On Jun 16, 2013, at 2:21 PM, "George" <gweekesjr< at >myself.com> wrote:

Re: Bernie interview

George — 2013-06-16T18:21:12

Thanks for posting the link, if that's the term to use, to the article on Bernie.  I've had the chance, over the years, and it's amazing to hear him speak of and about his musical background.  For all he's accomplished he's, trying to find the correct word, past the point of un-assuming. He's great people.

Did anybody see the Zorn, Laswell, Graves show in New York last week and, if so, how did it go?  Great they are playing out and wish they would play in other areas of, self serving, the East Coast.  I was involved with something last Saturday evening or would have taken the trip to NYC.

Hope all are well

George




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Re: Bernie interview

Jonathan Smith — 2013-06-16T10:04:03

Tarkus inspired  Steve Wilson's new project


On 16 June 2013 07:06, Stephen Fruitman <stephen.fruitman< at >gmail.com> wrote:

Re: Bernie interview

Stephen Fruitman — 2013-06-15T23:06:52

Speaking of ELP. :-)

http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/06/14/prog-is-not-a-four-letter-word/


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Re: Bernie interview

2013-06-15T20:41:07

ELP def got (or were) hokey & Emerson didn't turn out to have much original compositions in him but he certainly could play (though he quickly slid into Spinal Tap level histrionics & "rock star" ism's).   Saw a video clip of Bernie, Emerson & (I think) Wakeman talking backstage somewhere - prob'ly a Moog event (?) - not too long ago but can't find it at the moment.  They were clearly friendly w/ each other & familiar w/ their respective works.

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Subject: [laswell] Bernie interview
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 14:34:23 +0800

http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/bernie-worrell-talks-vintage-synths-elp-parliament-funkadelic-talking-heads-and-more-576154
 No direct Laswell content, but did you know that Bernie Worell&#65533;liked ELP? 

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Bernie interview

Jonathan Smith — 2013-06-15T06:34:23

http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/bernie-worrell-talks-vintage-synths-elp-parliament-funkadelic-talking-heads-and-more-576154

No direct Laswell content, but did you know that Bernie Worell liked ELP?

Bill Laswell - Warsaw Summer Jazz Days 1998 - YouTube

Brian Morrissey — 2013-06-14T13:05:19

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KHiZ2VMjUQ


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Re: Re: open briefly in couple hours

Jonathan Smith — 2013-06-13T06:31:00

I  remember it too. It was very good. I thought it had quite a lot quotes.


On 13 June 2013 13:23, haas alain <alain.haas< at >meteo.fr> wrote:

Re: Re: open briefly in couple hours

haas alain — 2013-06-13T05:23:41

That's right !
I remember this site very well, it was for me a crucial source of 
informations to follow Bill's extensive production.

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Sujet: Re: [laswell] Re: open briefly in couple hours
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Date : 12/06/2013 01:18

Re: Re: open briefly in couple hours

Stephen Fruitman — 2013-06-11T23:35:17

Maybe not. It´s the impression I get from seeming to recall numerous posts
over the years pointing the way to a "new Laswell interview". He certainly
doesn´t seem unwilling - heck, even I conducted a half-hour interview with
him on the phone - arranged by the good folks at Axiom - back in the late
nineties.

Re: Re: open briefly in couple hours

2013-06-11T23:29:49

he has been a been more talkative in last few years but given his whole career & output he hasn't done all that many interviews.  

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To: laswell< at >yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [laswell] Re: open briefly in couple hours
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 00:10:18 +0200

Bill himself has never been very interested in self-promotion (or so I assume so since he never did much of it).&#65533; Well, he sure has done a lot of interviews over the years for someone who isn&#65533;t interested in self-promotion. :-)&#65533; Isn&#65533;t it more a case of seeing a record done as a record done and now, on to the next thing?&#65533; 

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Re: Re: open briefly in couple hours

Dave Brunelle — 2013-06-11T23:23:13

It truly was. It was a huge resource when i started buying Bill's stuff. 

I have no comment really on the rest other than to say sit tight. Timetables move, sometimes plans or intent changes but many things are still in the works. 

Dave

On Jun 11, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Stephen Fruitman <stephen.fruitman< at >gmail.com> wrote:

Re: Re: open briefly in couple hours

Stephen Fruitman — 2013-06-11T23:18:37

And you did a great job. It was a wonderful place to visit.

Re: Re: open briefly in couple hours

Jeff Spirer — 2013-06-11T22:47:30

Just for historical purposes...I launched the Axiom website around 1994 
with the full support of Bill Laswell, Bill Murphy, Tracy McKnight and 
shortly thereafter, John Brown.  While Bill was not necessarily involved 
in "self-promotion," he was incredibly supportive of the website and I 
maintained it continuously until around 2000.  It had a decent 
audience.  It was also one of the first artist-specific sites on the 
web.  I also built prototype websites for Buckethead and Bernie Worrell, 
but it was probably too early for people to get that the web was going 
to take over.

Bill contracted with a marketing firm in 2000 and they told me they were 
taking over the marketing and the rights to the Axiom name on the web.  
I was fine with that because they had more people and money than I did, 
but they never did anything with it, from what I can tell.  My personal 
take on it, and I have never asked Bill, Bill or John about this, is 
that they were good at selling themselves.  But Bill did contract with 
th

Re: Re: open briefly in couple hours

Stephen Fruitman — 2013-06-11T22:10:18

Well, he sure has done a lot of interviews over the years for someone who
isn´t interested in self-promotion. :-)

Isn´t it more a case of seeing a record done as a record done and now, on
to the next thing?

Re: Re: open briefly in couple hours

2013-06-11T22:05:06

I don't even fully understand the reasoning or content of the original "scolding" but from what I could decipher: Bill himself has never been very interested in self-promotion (or so I assume so since he never did much of it). Until MoD except for the Axiom website & maybe one or two others were never maintained. They "started" & then were seemingly abandoned. So, criticize Bill instead of others for inadequate promotion. Is talk of older releases not better than NO talk at all? Idk how many people are on this forum (or pay attention to it) but it's probably less than 40 or so. If every one of them bought every release idk how much it would help or alter the number of releases. The current state of the music biz is unlikely to be solved or effected much by the 30 people on this forum regardless of what we did. Many of us don't live in Europe or N.Y. so are unlikely to be able to support live shows. ---------- Original Message ----------
From: "cha2uke" <cha2uke< at >yahoo.com>
To: laswell< at >yahoogroups.com
Subject:

Re: Re: open briefly in couple hours

Jonathan Smith — 2013-06-11T00:34:27

Yahoo Groups are not the perfect forum, but running something like a phpBB
forum is a lot of work.
Maybe Cha2uke, you would like to work on it?  Dave has enough on his hands
already and does more than anyone else. Otherwise please keep posting what
you can, but positivity is more useful than aggression.

Speaking for  myself I am grateful for many of your posts. English is not
everybody's native language so sometimes confusion can arise for that
reason.

Jonathan



On 11 June 2013 07:11, Dale Himself <dalehimself< at >yahoo.com> wrote:

Re: Re: open briefly in couple hours

Dale Himself — 2013-06-10T23:11:12

cha2uke, 


If you think this forum is so awful, why don't you start your own better site or communication method to accomplish whatever it is you think should be happening here?

Dale.



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 From: cha2uke <cha2uke< at >yahoo.com>
To: laswell< at >yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 7:07 PM
Subject: [laswell] Re: open briefly in couple hours
 


  
Assume for a moment that this place is something like a fan forum, no, actually *the* fan forum, since no other for this purpose exists. Then it is understatement to state that there is a communication problem from both sides and it is impossible to deny that. From that side which is supposed to be doing management/PR. Nothing new, been this way all the time. And from that side who are fans or supporters or what else and associated here, not only posting to threads like this one past 40+ years or so but also trading collectibles like unreleased material, but then failing in the disciplines which make projects a popular success. It i

Re: open briefly in couple hours

cha2uke — 2013-06-10T23:07:03

Assume for a moment that this place is something like a fan forum, no, actually *the* fan forum, since no other for this purpose exists. Then it is understatement to state that there is a communication problem from both sides and it is impossible to deny that. From that side which is supposed to be doing management/PR. Nothing new, been this way all the time. And from that side who are fans or supporters or what else and associated here, not only posting to threads like this one past 40+ years or so but also trading collectibles like unreleased material, but then failing in the disciplines which make projects a popular success. It is a miracle, actually a complete paradoxon, that despite this there are 1,000 or so official releases with Bill Laswell's name written on one or the other way. And a few shows live. With my occasional postings, I point to the possibility that a lot more could and should happen, and it's in the hands of both sides. There are projects to be brought on stage and on media. And I quite

Re: Just one questiion

David Brunelle — 2013-06-10T14:42:03

haha...you could always contact the customer service email address in the
store. i'm sure our distribution partner would take care of that for you!

On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Jonathan Smith <smithjm77x7< at >gmail.com>wrote:

Re: Just one questiion

haas alain — 2013-06-10T14:38:45

OK, thanks for the answer Dave.
I'm too old for virtual music, so i'll wait for a physical issue  ; )




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