http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.music.jorgan.user hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.music.jorgan.user/23611 <pre>atp wrote Yes JohnR -- View this message in context: http://jorgan.999862.n4.nabble.com/Three-ideas-tp4658480p4658498.html Sent from the jOrgan - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AlienVault Unified Security Management (USM) platform delivers complete security visibility with the essential security capabilities. Easily and efficiently configure, manage, and operate all of your security controls from a single console and one unified framework. Download a free trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/alienvault_d2d </pre> John Reimer 2013-05-19T20:27:00 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.music.jorgan.user/23610 <pre>Hi GrahamW, As the samples are almost dry they should sound very good with added reverb - the fluidsynth reverb is OK(ish) but Zita-Rev1 would sound even better :) Kind regards, GrahamG On 5/19/13, Graham Wykes &lt;grahamwykes&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; wrote: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AlienVault Unified Security Management (USM) platform delivers complete security visibility with the essential security capabilities. Easily and efficiently configure, manage, and operate all of your security controls from a single console and one unified framework. Download a free trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/alienvault_d2d </pre> Graham Goode 2013-05-19T19:52:13 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.music.jorgan.user/23609 <pre>John, Are you referring to a visual indication of what is selected in the menu? That should be easy! On May 19, 2013 1:34 AM, "John Reimer [via jOrgan]" &lt; ml-node+s999862n4658494h13&lt; at &gt;n4.nabble.com&gt; wrote: -- View this message in context: http://jorgan.999862.n4.nabble.com/Three-ideas-tp4658480p4658496.html Sent from the jOrgan - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AlienVault Unified Security Management (USM) platform delivers complete security visibility with the essential security capabilities. Easily and efficiently configure, manage, and operate all of your security controls from a single console and one unified framework. Download a free trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/alienvault_d2d </pre> atp 2013-05-19T18:07:35 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.music.jorgan.user/23608 <pre>Congratulations Graham. Your timing is excellent. :) Just in time to try it out on my new Puppy Precise (cut-down) build with Zita-Rev1. Sounds very, very good!! Regards GrahamW On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Graham Goode &lt;ggoode.sa&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; wrote: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AlienVault Unified Security Management (USM) platform delivers complete security visibility with the essential security capabilities. Easily and efficiently configure, manage, and operate all of your security controls from a single console and one unified framework. Download a free trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/alienvault_d2d_______________________________________________ jOrgan-user mailing list jOrgan-user&lt; at &gt;lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jorgan-user </pre> Graham Wykes 2013-05-19T11:04:09 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.music.jorgan.user/23607 <pre>Alex, Thank you for those ideas. Any chance of upgrading the menu function so that the appearance of the element which has been selected changes before applying an UP or DOWN? This would be far more convenient for the user. By the way, the Earlwood No.3b disposition contains two reversible pistons which transfer the Positive to either of the two manuals available to the user. And they change colour to show their state. Also, they can be activated by assigning (for example) the top note of each manual as a physical control, if physical pistons are not available for that purpose. John Reimer -- View this message in context: http://jorgan.999862.n4.nabble.com/Three-ideas-tp4658480p4658494.html Sent from the jOrgan - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AlienVault Unified Security Management (USM) platform delivers complete security visibility with the essential security capabilities. Easily and efficiently configure, manag</pre> John Reimer 2013-05-19T05:33:44 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.music.jorgan.user/23606 <pre>I don't have any reversible pistons or toe studs, but I do set registration combinations using two setterboards, I have them preset for service music. It was the particular function of turning off the stops on the second push of the piston or toe stud that apparently makes it "reversible." John -----Original Message----- From: atp Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 3:46 PM To: jorgan-user&lt; at &gt;lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] Σχετ: Three ideas John, A reversible piston is generally meant for a single stop or coupler. It is a binary function, insofar as activating can result in (only) two outcomes. One can toggle Swell to Great, or maybe the big 16' Trombone in the Pedal, or a 32' Bourdon, etc. Also, one can toggle a Tutti/Full Organ effect, which seems almost universal on organs with any trace of combination action. A regular piston (either general or divisional) reproduces a pre-denoted setting. It is an unary (singular version of binary) function, insofar as activating can only result </pre> John Beach 2013-05-19T02:27:06 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.music.jorgan.user/23605 <pre>Alex It makes more sense than the rather sloppy Wikipedia "definition"! GrahamH ----- Original Message ----- From: "atp" &lt;atpattavina&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; To: &lt;jorgan-user&lt; at &gt;lists.sourceforge.net&gt; Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] Σχετ: Three ideas ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AlienVault Unified Security Management (USM) platform delivers complete security visibility with the essential security capabilities. Easily and efficiently configure, manage, and operate all of your security controls from a single console and one unified framework. Download a free trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/alienvault_d2d _______________________________________________ jOrgan-user mailing list jOrgan-user&lt; at &gt;lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jorgan-user </pre> Graham Harrison 2013-05-18T21:05:51 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.music.jorgan.user/23604 <pre>John, A reversible piston is generally meant for a single stop or coupler. It is a binary function, insofar as activating can result in (only) two outcomes. One can toggle Swell to Great, or maybe the big 16' Trombone in the Pedal, or a 32' Bourdon, etc. Also, one can toggle a Tutti/Full Organ effect, which seems almost universal on organs with any trace of combination action. A regular piston (either general or divisional) reproduces a pre-denoted setting. It is an unary (singular version of binary) function, insofar as activating can only result in a single outcome. Pressing a regular piston results in whatever you set it to do. If a general piston - let's call it Piston 1 - is set to engage a Gedeckt 8 and Principal 4, it will engage the two stops and cancel all others, as they were not set (on Piston 1). Pressing Piston 1 again will do nothing, as no stops have been changed. Let's pull out a Mixture III. Pressing Piston 1 will disengage Mixture III, as only the Gedeckt 8 and Principal 4 were</pre> atp 2013-05-18T19:46:32 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.music.jorgan.user/23603 <pre>INDEED ROY !   ))))) ________________________________ Απο: Roy Radford &lt;roy.radford42&lt; at &gt;yahoo.co.uk&gt; Προς: "jorgan-user&lt; at &gt;lists.sourceforge.net" &lt;jorgan-user&lt; at &gt;lists.sourceforge.net&gt; Στάλθηκε: 6:15 μ.μ. Σάββατο, 18 Μαΐου 2013 Θέμα: Re: [jOrgan-user] Σχετ: Σχετ: Three ideas Hi, Panos,                 &lt;&lt;&lt;We can use just the combinations. It's FAST and accurate. And more : we can play works for two/three/four manuals where both hands are on the same keyboard with just one keyboard controller and a pedalboard , using just the generals.&gt;&gt;&gt;     Being an electronic, as opposed to pipe organ guy that has always been my standpoint. My Edirol contraption has nothing but generals. I don't have touch screens so real general pistons are about the only practical method of playing the thing!       Have fun,            Roy. ________________________________ From: Panos Ghekas &lt;panosg62&lt; at &gt;yahoo.gr&gt; To: "jorgan-user&lt; at &gt;lists.sou</pre> Panos Ghekas 2013-05-18T19:26:47 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.music.jorgan.user/23602 <pre>Seems to me the theatre should be happy to be known, your work sounds great especially the trems (which seem synchronized to my ear). I am a classical organist, but find Freedom appropriate for those moments when I want to play pop songs. Thank you, Patrick -----Original Message----- From: Graham Goode [mailto:ggoode.sa&lt; at &gt;gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:57 AM To: jorgan-user Subject: [jOrgan-user] Release: Freedom Morton 2/6 Beta01 (Full) for jOrgan3.19 with Fluidsynth Hi, For those who have been wondering why I'm so quiet, there are a few reasons, one is a hectic work schedule at the moment, and the other is this little baby.. a mostly Robert Morton theatre organ sample set for jOrgan-Fluidsynth. Thanks to all the Alpha testers who have helped test the disposition and made comments about voicing, etc. There have been some major changes in this project since the Alpha release (which was based on the non-trem samples, using LFO for the trems). This Beta01 release has all the notes in trem and </pre> Patrick Lane 2013-05-18T16:24:42 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.music.jorgan.user/23601 <pre>Hi, For those who have been wondering why I'm so quiet, there are a few reasons, one is a hectic work schedule at the moment, and the other is this little baby.. a mostly Robert Morton theatre organ sample set for jOrgan-Fluidsynth. Thanks to all the Alpha testers who have helped test the disposition and made comments about voicing, etc. There have been some major changes in this project since the Alpha release (which was based on the non-trem samples, using LFO for the trems). This Beta01 release has all the notes in trem and non-trem, plus all the release portions. In the Alpha the solo reed was a Wurlitzer Saxophone, but I have now had time to do the NR work on the Robert Morton Tuba and so the solo reed in the Beta is the Tuba. The Saxophone will be back in a later disposition. You can download the disposition/soundfonts as a RAR package from: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4OTGbifRnzhaHg0eDBoVWtPQlk/edit?usp=sharing The download is 267Megs in size and decompresses to 506 megs on your harddrive. I</pre> Graham Goode 2013-05-18T15:56:59 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.music.jorgan.user/23600 <pre>I was curious about what exactly was meant by “reversible” pistons and the wikipedia says that a reversible piston is piston or toe stud that has the capability to turn OFF the combination of stops that it also has the capability to turn ON. If you hit the same piston a second time after using it once, it turns OFF the combination of stops that have been assigned to that piston. This is not true of the two Allen organs I play on a regular basis. The piston only serves to turn on the assigned combination of stops. Pushing the piston a second time will get the same set of stops ON. On pipe organs I have played, the inter-divisional coupler pistons have an OFF piston situated right next to them which uncouples the manuals. John Beach From: Graham Harrison Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 9:00 AM To: jorgan-user&lt; at &gt;lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] Σχετ: Three ideas Hi Panos A typical (modern) English 3-manual console will have the following "reversible pistons" in addition to the regula</pre> John Beach 2013-05-18T15:34:08 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.music.jorgan.user/23599 <pre>Hi, Panos,                 &lt;&lt;&lt;We can use just the combinations. It's FAST and accurate. And more : we can play works for two/three/four manuals where both hands are on the same keyboard with just one keyboard controller and a pedalboard , using just the generals.&gt;&gt;&gt;     Being an electronic, as opposed to pipe organ guy that has always been my standpoint. My Edirol contraption has nothing but generals. I don't have touch screens so real general pistons are about the only practical method of playing the thing!       Have fun,            Roy. ________________________________ From: Panos Ghekas &lt;panosg62&lt; at &gt;yahoo.gr&gt; To: "jorgan-user&lt; at &gt;lists.sourceforge.net" &lt;jorgan-user&lt; at &gt;lists.sourceforge.net&gt; Sent: Saturday, 18 May 2013, 14:55 Subject: [jOrgan-user] Σχετ: Σχετ: Three ideas Hi Graham ! I really thank you for this ! (already copied and pasted for future reference hehehe)   Yep, I see. I haven't see a reversible so far in physical world that's why. Greek</pre> Roy Radford 2013-05-18T15:15:55 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.music.jorgan.user/23598 <pre>Yep, this too. I see now. Thanks Alex !   best Panos ________________________________ Απο: atp &lt;atpattavina&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; Προς: jorgan-user&lt; at &gt;lists.sourceforge.net Στάλθηκε: 4:45 μ.μ. Σάββατο, 18 Μαΐου 2013 Θέμα: Re: [jOrgan-user] Σχετ: Three ideas Additionally, they can be useful for a Tutti/Sfz/Full Organ function. Click - on, click - off, and the graphic "rests" in the false position...   I find what GH mentioned to be the most important reason to have reversibles - playing aids on the virtual console so one can have an entire organ on his computer. On May 18, 2013 9:16 AM, "Graham Harrison [via jOrgan]" &lt; ml-node+s999862n4658482h41&lt; at &gt;n4.nabble.com&gt; wrote: -- View this message in context: http://jorgan.999862.n4.nabble.com/Re-Three-ideas-tp4658483.html Sent from the jOrgan - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AlienVault Unified Security Management (USM) platform delivers comp</pre> Panos Ghekas 2013-05-18T13:56:46 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.music.jorgan.user/23597 <pre>Hi Graham ! I really thank you for this ! (already copied and pasted for future reference hehehe)   Yep, I see. I haven't see a reversible so far in physical world that's why. Greek pipe organs are a bit older and smaller here. And indeed in digital world and dedicated physical controllers there's no need for. I even dare to say there's no need to actually assign GUI stops to physical buttons (!) = We can use just the combinations. It's FAST and accurate. And more : we can play works for two/three/four manuals where both hands are on the same keyboard with just one keyboard controller and a pedalboard , using just the generals. And in some extreme cases we can use a 61 or 76 keys controller using split function to play a chorale setting with a Rohr8' on the left part and a cornet on the right !   Thanks again, Best Panos ________________________________ Απο: Graham Harrison &lt;fg.harrison&lt; at &gt;virgin.net&gt; Προς: jorgan-user&lt; at &gt;lists.sourceforge.net Στάλθηκε: 4:00 μ.μ. Σάββατο, 18 Μαΐο</pre> Panos Ghekas 2013-05-18T13:55:47 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.music.jorgan.user/23596 <pre>Additionally, they can be useful for a Tutti/Sfz/Full Organ function. Click - on, click - off, and the graphic "rests" in the false position... I find what GH mentioned to be the most important reason to have reversibles - playing aids on the virtual console so one can have an entire organ on his computer. On May 18, 2013 9:16 AM, "Graham Harrison [via jOrgan]" &lt; ml-node+s999862n4658482h41&lt; at &gt;n4.nabble.com&gt; wrote: -- View this message in context: http://jorgan.999862.n4.nabble.com/Re-Three-ideas-tp4658483.html Sent from the jOrgan - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AlienVault Unified Security Management (USM) platform delivers complete security visibility with the essential security capabilities. Easily and efficiently configure, manage, and operate all of your security controls from a single console and one unified framework. Download a free trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/alienvault_d2d __________________________________</pre> atp 2013-05-18T13:45:19 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.music.jorgan.user/23595 <pre>Hi Panos A typical (modern) English 3-manual console will have the following "reversible pistons" in addition to the regular Divisional and General combination pistons: Under the Swell manual: Swell to Pedal Under the Great manual: Great to Pedal; Swell to Great; Choir to Great Under the Choir manual: Choir to Pedal; Swell to Choir; Tuba 8' In addition to the toe pistons (or studs) for combinations it will have the following "reversibles": To the right of the expression pedals: Great to Pedal To the left of the expression pedals: Swell to Great The function of these reversible pistons is to toggle the corresponding stop or coupler, and larger instruments may have other reversibles, such as Bombarde 32' or Double Open Wood 32' etc. Clearly such playing-aids are useful on a real console, but on a virtual (on-screen) console they are superfluous, since it as arguably easier to click (or touch) the stop or coupler image itself rather than click (or touch) a reversible piston image. Hence the absence of a jO</pre> Graham Harrison 2013-05-18T13:00:47 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.music.jorgan.user/23594 <pre>Hi Alex, all good, but (question) :   Why reversible pistons...? There where in use (still are there) in old GrandOrgue/HW1 sets, now I can't see why we need them in jOrgan with all this excellent "midiLearn" function.... Please tell me more about :-)   Best Panos ________________________________ Απο: atp &lt;atpattavina&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; Προς: jorgan-user&lt; at &gt;lists.sourceforge.net Στάλθηκε: 4:17 π.μ. Σάββατο, 18 Μαΐου 2013 Θέμα: [jOrgan-user] Three ideas Hi all, Here are links to a disposition on three jOrgan concepts: 1) Reversible Piston 2) Double On/Off Switch (binary selector via two contols) 3) Menu (how to control multiple continous elements via a single set of incrementers) http://www.mediafire.com/?6apfxh8ebabiip3 (.zip version) http://www.mediafire.com/?xjccbuwmycjhbac (.disposition alone) Note: there is no skin, so don't be confused when it doesn't show up! Comments? Alex -- View this message in context: http://jorgan.999862.n4.nabble.com/Three-ideas-tp4658480</pre> Panos Ghekas 2013-05-18T11:45:59 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.music.jorgan.user/23593 <pre>Hi all, Here are links to a disposition on three jOrgan concepts: 1) Reversible Piston 2) Double On/Off Switch (binary selector via two contols) 3) Menu (how to control multiple continous elements via a single set of incrementers) http://www.mediafire.com/?6apfxh8ebabiip3 (.zip version) http://www.mediafire.com/?xjccbuwmycjhbac (.disposition alone) Note: there is no skin, so don't be confused when it doesn't show up! Comments? Alex -- View this message in context: http://jorgan.999862.n4.nabble.com/Three-ideas-tp4658480.html Sent from the jOrgan - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AlienVault Unified Security Management (USM) platform delivers complete security visibility with the essential security capabilities. Easily and efficiently configure, manage, and operate all of your security controls from a single console and one unified framework. Download a free trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/alienvault_d2d </pre> atp 2013-05-18T01:17:57 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.music.jorgan.user/23592 <pre>Thanks, Erik. I will have to figure out how to use that. John From: Erik De Schrijver Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:00 PM To: jorgan-user&lt; at &gt;lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] Attenuation in decibels and percentages offull volume Hello, Here is a calculator. Use the second from the top, where 1V = 0 db. Put the percentage you want to convert in the left box in decimal format (e.g. for 70 % put 0.7) and you get the corresponding db value. If you prefer a table, look here Does this help? All the best. Erik. ------------------------------------------- John Beach wrote: Bill, thanks for the information, but it does little good in the case of Vienna soundfont editor. Attenuation settings changes in db are hardly noticeable at less that 10 db increments. I am trying to ascertain the attenuation settings for the principal chorus footages. If the Principal 8’ is 100%, the Octave 4’ is 70% of the volume of the Principal 8’ and the SuperOctave 2’ is 60% of the volume of the Prin</pre> John Beach 2013-05-17T11:08:57 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.music.jorgan.user/23591 <pre>Thanks, John, that was helpful and I have successfully reset the settings. John -----Original Message----- From: John Reimer Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 2:57 AM To: jorgan-user&lt; at &gt;lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] Attenuation in decibels and percentagesoffull volume Hi John, The link below will take you to the article on my website, which will give you what you want. Note that I updated the article in January, and so you should consult the SECOND table. At the bottom there is also a link to a spreadsheet which converts dB to Attenuation Settings and vice versa. http://home.exetel.com.au/reimerorgans/ART/Attenuation_Settings2013.htm John Reimer -- View this message in context: http://jorgan.999862.n4.nabble.com/Re-Attenuation-in-decibels-and-percentages-of-full-volume-tp4658472p4658477.html Sent from the jOrgan - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AlienVault Unified Security Management (USM) platform de</pre> John Beach 2013-05-17T10:48:31 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.music.jorgan.user