http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nocc.general hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nocc.general/655 <pre>Hi Tobias! Just updating the release package will confusing the user! How shoud they know, if there "NOCC 1.9.2" is with or without the fix? (Apart from testing!) Saying "NOCC 1.9.2" is old, use the new "NOCC 1.9.3" is easier to all. There is also a other fix, which excuses a new release. But I have currently not many time for my projects. Work and private life need much attention and don't leave the time for NOCC and other projects from me. :( I hopefully will find a little bit time in the next few days, but it is currently always a matter of luck. :) Greetings, Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ </pre> Tim Gerundt 2012-05-30T13:33:03 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nocc.general/654 <pre>Hi Tim, if you can, why not just update the release package? - Tobias. On 28 May 2012 15:30, Tim Gerundt &lt;tim&lt; at &gt;gerundt.de&gt; wrote: </pre> Tobias Mathes 2012-05-29T16:34:09 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nocc.general/653 <pre> Thanks! :) bye av. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ </pre> Andrea Venturoli 2012-05-28T21:09:02 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nocc.general/652 <pre>Hi av., sorry for the long delay, but I have currently not so much time for NOCC. :-( Your problem is a stupid typo I added to the file "classes\nocc_attachedfile.php": Please change the line 122 from: return content; to: return $content; I fixed it already in SVN (In Revision 2552): http://nocc.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/nocc?view=revision&amp;revision=2552 Hopefully I will release a new version soon. Greetings, Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ </pre> Tim Gerundt 2012-05-28T13:30:50 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nocc.general/651 <pre>Well, there all are sorts of nice features in IMAP, therefore it doesn't take so long for fetching by example the amount of message inside an IMAP folder. I remember that I started to make some research related to problems regarding big folders and with big I mean really big ~50k up to 100k emails. Unfortunately I am busy with another project, otherwise I would have another look into this problem. - Tobias On 24 April 2012 10:10, Thomas Orgis &lt;thomas-forum&lt; at &gt;orgis.org&gt; wrote: </pre> Tobias Mathes 2012-04-26T15:46:21 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nocc.general/650 <pre>Am Tue, 24 Apr 2012 09:36:52 +0200 schrieb Tim Gerundt &lt;tim&lt; at &gt;gerundt.de&gt;: Yeah, that fixes the sorting. But I have to check again at what stage my local copy of nocc is regarding performance ... [Tue Apr 24 09:57:26 2012] [error] [client 87.158.40.181] ThOr: opening server [Tue Apr 24 09:57:27 2012] [error] [client 87.158.40.181] ThOr: DONE opening server [Tue Apr 24 09:57:27 2012] [error] [client 87.158.40.181] needed time:0.095389127731323 [Tue Apr 24 09:57:27 2012] [error] [client 87.158.40.181] ThOr: num_msg [Tue Apr 24 09:57:27 2012] [error] [client 87.158.40.181] ThOr: num_msg [Tue Apr 24 09:58:04 2012] [error] [client 87.158.40.181] ThOr: num_msg Those are log entries from one request to display page 3 with 50 mails out of 871. Over half a minute of delay before the last call of num_msg, without much computing on the server side. Really have to dig around what happens during that time ... if time permits:-/ Well, you had the server opening optimized, that is not the bottleneck anymore. Alright</pre> Thomas Orgis 2012-04-24T08:10:20 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nocc.general/649 <pre>Hi Thomas! Sorry for the delay, but I have currently not many time. What happend if change SORTARRIVAL into SORTDATE at the sort() function from class "nocc_imap": Index: webmail/classes/class_local.php =================================================================== --- webmail/classes/class_local.php(Revision 2548) +++ webmail/classes/class_local.php(Arbeitskopie) &lt; at &gt;&lt; at &gt; -164,7 +164,7 &lt; at &gt;&lt; at &gt; case '1': $imapsort = SORTFROM; break; case '2': $imapsort = SORTTO; break; case '3': $imapsort = SORTSUBJECT; break; - case '4': $imapsort = SORTARRIVAL; break; + case '4': $imapsort = SORTDATE; break; case '5': $imapsort = SORTSIZE; break; } $sorted = imap_sort($this-&gt;conn, $imapsort, $sortdir, SE_NOPREFETCH); Greetings, Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscap</pre> Tim Gerundt 2012-04-24T07:36:52 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nocc.general/648 <pre>Hello. I've got a couple of installation on different FreeBSD servers which are all showing a problem since the upgrade from 1.9.1 to 1.9.2. If an email is sent with any attachment, an attachment arrives which is just a few bytes long, holding only the "content" string. Can anyone help me in diagnosing this? bye &amp; Thanks av. P.S. A downgrade solved, so I'm not in a hurry, but I thought the team might be interested... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 </pre> Andrea Venturoli 2012-04-23T14:08:45 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nocc.general/647 <pre>Am Thu, 8 Mar 2012 12:58:47 +0100 schrieb Thomas Orgis &lt;thomas-forum&lt; at &gt;orgis.org&gt;: Just one thing... I'll have to test if this is related to latest changes, but it seems like the sorting is seriously broken. I see my mails in some order, but not along time in any coherent direction. Perhaps I can have a look at the code again, but well, I want to have it mentioned at least. It's hopefully easy to fix. Alrighty then, Thomas ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2_______________________________________________ Nocc-discuss mailing list Nocc-discuss&lt; at &gt;lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nocc-discuss </pre> Thomas Orgis 2012-04-13T13:29:47 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nocc.general/646 <pre>Am Thu, 08 Mar 2012 12:28:36 +0100 schrieb Tim Gerundt &lt;tim&lt; at &gt;gerundt.de&gt;: Ah, you thought of everything. I keep my mouth shut;-) Alrighty then, Thomas ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Virtualization &amp; Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ </pre> Thomas Orgis 2012-03-08T11:58:47 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nocc.general/645 <pre>Huhu! I had this doubts too, but this ports are standards. And if somebody really want to use 110 for IMAP and 143 for POP3 he could use the "imap" and "pop3" keywords to force it. Because of this, the port numbers are the last keywords I check. And if somebody use a total different port numer, the driver check will find if it is IMAP or POP3. Greetings, Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Virtualization &amp; Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ </pre> Tim Gerundt 2012-03-08T11:28:36 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nocc.general/644 <pre>Am Thu, 08 Mar 2012 08:59:06 +0100 schrieb Tim Gerundt &lt;tim&lt; at &gt;gerundt.de&gt;: Heh, once you get started, eh? ;-) That had the server opening down to 0.09 seconds. That brought it down to 0.07 seconds. So, I think this function is optimized enought for now. Though, I must say that the keywords approach feels a bit dirty. The "imap" and "pop3" keywords are quite safe, I think, but hard-coding the port numbers might not be a good idea. For whatever reason, people can use any ports they want for POP / IMAP. This bottleneck got nicely killed off now, kudos! Now on to the next one: Parsing of 25 message headers (I suppose) should not take over 3 seconds. But easy, I know how it is not to have any time for this... Thanks so far in any case! Alrighty then, Thomas ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Virtualization &amp; Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be del</pre> Thomas Orgis 2012-03-08T10:07:10 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nocc.general/643 <pre>Hi! Ok, I speedup is_imap() once more, by using it as property and try to parse the server config for IMAP and POP3 keywords: Use is_imap() from "nocc_imap" as property http://nocc.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/nocc?revision=2535&amp;view=revision Accelerate isImapCheck() function from nocc_imap http://nocc.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/nocc?revision=2536&amp;view=revision Hope it helps you too! :) Greetings, Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Virtualization &amp; Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ </pre> Tim Gerundt 2012-03-08T07:59:06 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nocc.general/642 <pre>Am Wed, 07 Mar 2012 14:54:16 +0100 schrieb Tim Gerundt &lt;tim&lt; at &gt;gerundt.de&gt;: Now that does make a difference! [Wed Mar 07 23:59:29 2012] [error] [client x] ThOr: opening server: bla [Wed Mar 07 23:59:29 2012] [error] [client x] ThOr: DONE opening server: bla [Wed Mar 07 23:59:29 2012] [error] [client x] needed time:0.113281011581, bla [Wed Mar 07 23:59:29 2012] [error] [client x] ThOr: num_msg, referer: bla [Wed Mar 07 23:59:29 2012] [error] [client x] ThOr: num_msg, referer: bla [Wed Mar 07 23:59:33 2012] [error] [client x] ThOr: num_msg, referer: bla Comparing the instant reaction on opening a single message and going to the preferences, the remaining 3 seconds seem to really correlate with work that is being done for preparing the folder view. While I still think that that be faster (parsing headers of 25 mails is not that much work), this clearly makes NOCC usable with this mailbox. Heck, if the display of the folder view would be pushed down to about one second, NOCC would feel a lot less sluggish tha</pre> Thomas Orgis 2012-03-07T23:07:25 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nocc.general/641 <pre>Hi! Sorry, I thougt it would be some log file from the mail server. So, yes you are right! It would just show at the browser. If you have easy access to the web server logfiles error_log() is of course much sexy. :) Maybe I just benchmark the "$pop = new nocc_imap();" call. It was late and was maybe sleepy. ;-) The construtor from nocc_imap calls also his is_imap() function which seems to be a bottleneck. It use the imap_mailboxmsginfo() function which "sum up the size of all messages in the mailbox": http://de3.php.net/imap_mailboxmsginfo If I switch it to imap_check(), I seems to be faster! http://nocc.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/nocc/trunk/webmail/classes/class_local.php?r1=2534&amp;r2=2533&amp;pathrev=2534 Greetings, Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Virtualization &amp; Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.ac</pre> Tim Gerundt 2012-03-07T13:54:16 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nocc.general/640 <pre>Am Tue, 06 Mar 2012 20:04:22 +0100 schrieb Tim Gerundt &lt;tim&lt; at &gt;gerundt.de&gt;: That's the code: error_log("ThOr: opening server: ".$this-&gt;server); $conn = &lt; at &gt;imap_open('{'.$this-&gt;server.'}'.$this-&gt;folder, $this-&gt;login, $this-&gt;passwd, 0); error_log("ThOr: DONE opening server: ".$this-&gt;server); So that in the log... [Tue Mar 06 17:31:28 2012] [error] [client x] ThOr: opening server: bla [Tue Mar 06 17:31:29 2012] [error] [client x] ThOr: DONE opening server: bla Does mean that the call to imap_open didn't need more than one second, doesn't it? I might be wrong, I'm just transferring my knowledge from other programming languages. Where would that output go? I prefer it showing up in the apache logs, hence error_log seemed fine (also as there are timestamps). That is interesting. Are we having two different issues here? Or am I wrong about when error_log messages get sent to apache? Trying again with that code: error_log("ThOr: opening server: ".$this-&gt;server); $begin = microtime(true); $co</pre> Thomas Orgis 2012-03-07T00:36:13 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nocc.general/639 <pre>Sorry, I hit submit before I was finished! ;) Are you sure, that "opening server" and "DONE opening server" not both belongs to the imap_open() call? For me it looks like, that "DONE opening server" starts at 17:31:29 and 17:31:57 "num_msg" can call. A quick and dirty benchmark looks in PHP like this: $starttime = microtime(true); // ... // ... do PHP stuff you will benchmark ... // ... // ... $endtime = microtime(true); var_dump($endtime - $starttime); If you at the inbox, it not fetch the body of the mail, only the header infos like subject, size and more. I echoed the time before and after the imap_open() call and it was more the 10 seconds. I love the project, but I need more help to keep the project alive! :-( Yes, the plain HTML/CSS layout, no database need and the POP3 support make NOCC different to the big player like RoundCube or SquirrelMail. Greetings, Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnD</pre> Tim Gerundt 2012-03-06T19:04:22 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nocc.general/638 <pre>Am 06.03.2012 17:36, schrieb Thomas Orgis: No, but I am only honestly! My wife had big problem with the NOCC interface, but after I install here a Roundcube instance, she has no problems. And yes, I like the interface too. :-) And they have also many developers. NOCC unfortunately not. I am currently the only developer and has at the moment not many time for it. :-(( NOCC deserve more! Greetings, Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d </pre> Tim Gerundt 2012-03-06T18:46:01 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nocc.general/637 <pre> Well put. That's precisely the reason for me to use NOCC. Hanno ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d </pre> Hanno Foest 2012-03-06T17:12:17 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nocc.general/636 <pre>Hi again, Am Tue, 06 Mar 2012 16:46:55 +0100 schrieb Tim Gerundt &lt;tim&lt; at &gt;gerundt.de&gt;: Fine then. Perhaps I can squeeze in a look around that function to get to the point... a quick search brings up something related: http://www.maiamailguard.com/maia/ticket/170 Seems like investigating alternatives from PEAR is one way. Though, listing the contents of the mailbox should not be that slow, especially over local link network. http://www.phpbuilder.com/board/showthread.php?t=10124629 Hm, that seems strange. Also; I just tested again, debug message before and after imap_open: [Tue Mar 06 17:17:21 2012] [error] [client 141.48.166.115] ThOr: opening server: nesselzelle.de/pop3/notls:110, referer: https://webmail.nesselzelle.de/index.php [Tue Mar 06 17:17:21 2012] [error] [client 141.48.166.115] ThOr: DONE opening server: nesselzelle.de/pop3/notls:110, referer: https://webmail.nesselzelle.de/index.php That is not slow. I remember doing that before posting, actually... Is there some simple option to get a pro</pre> Thomas Orgis 2012-03-06T16:36:36 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nocc.general/635 <pre>Hi Thomas! Yes, imap_open() is called every time at the beginning of "action.php". You are true, for editing preferences we don't need it, but all other actions need it. No, I have no contact to PHP developers. In this case I would recommend Roundcube &lt;http://roundcube.net/&gt;. This open-source webmailer is so cool! ;) But unfortunately it don't support POP3 either. Sorry, I just hit "Reply all". Greetings, Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. 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